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flashwilcox
February 11, 2012, 19:55
Any body have a pic???

What did they use to launch them with?

Just curious
I am not trying to replicate

flash

DYNOMIKE
February 11, 2012, 21:54
What's a "Gernade"? :devil:

homelandprotector
February 11, 2012, 22:16
What's a "Gernade"? :devil:

That's a Grinade son......... :cool:


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1586/cs380010897saa1.jpg

flashwilcox
February 11, 2012, 23:03
Sorry about that, have wife English major for spelling correction.
I have a big heavy barrel attachment.
Back end looks to go around a lug. Front end appears same size as bullet.
It's differant than others i have seen. Fatter and outside spins around inner part.

Can't post here can all other forums not here.

flash

308/223shooter
February 12, 2012, 00:19
I didn't know Mr. Monk had an FAL.

jugrunner
February 12, 2012, 13:07
some dude on GB had a few Izzy "rockets" listed a few weeks back ... fit the STG FH just right ... I pissed around and missed 'em all ... $29.00 IIRC ... :sad:

Shirley, someone on this board got one or 3 ... post a pic and sell me one please ... :wink:

they looked similar to the one above but were "white" I believe ...

embatp
February 15, 2012, 21:57
some dude on GB had a few Izzy "rockets" listed a few weeks back ... fit the STG FH just right ... I pissed around and missed 'em all ... $29.00 IIRC ... :sad:

Shirley, someone on this board got one or 3 ... post a pic and sell me one please ... :wink:

they looked similar to the one above but were "white" I believe ...

Jug...I bought one of those and it was Izzy marked and did fit the Stoll device like a charm...but it wouldnt fit on an izzy grenade launcher for the light barrel Izzy....go figure!!!

jugrunner
February 18, 2012, 10:54
Jug...I bought one of those and it was Izzy marked and did fit the Stoll device like a charm...but it wouldnt fit on an izzy grenade launcher for the light barrel Izzy....go figure!!!

that is strange ... :confused: ... have you tried it on your UZI ... ??? ... :wink:

Post a pic if possible ...

FUUN063
February 18, 2012, 22:09
I found this digging through the pile in the basement............

http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/FUUN063/RiflegrenadeFAL001.jpg
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/FUUN063/RiflegrenadeFAL002.jpg
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/FUUN063/RiflegrenadeFAL003.jpg
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/FUUN063/RiflegrenadeFAL004.jpg
http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z341/FUUN063/RiflegrenadeFAL005.jpg


Leland:shades:

jugrunner
February 19, 2012, 16:14
Hell ... I don't like blue but I like the "can" it's in ...

I'll take it ... :biggrin:

FUUN063
February 19, 2012, 21:12
When we shoot these things, we have to first paint them flurescent orange so that we can find them later! They go completely out of sight in the air, so you gotta have a lot of area to fire them. Be careful!:shades:


Leland
:fal:

flashwilcox
February 19, 2012, 22:49
That would be bad ass Fuun.

flash

Tim Dreas
February 20, 2012, 13:15
Austria (and also Switzerland and others) use the "long" European spec 22 mm rifle grenades. In 1961 the NATO member countries adopted the "short" US spec 22 mm rifle grenades. This is the reason for the difference in the length of the flash hiders between the STG-58 and shorter FAL combo flash hider.

jugrunner
February 21, 2012, 17:34
someone with training and knowledge please explain something ...

the dude in the ("Great") photo (BTW), is this the proper position to hold the FAL for launching said "rocket" ... ???

also what exactly is he using as a reference in conjunction with the grenade sight ladder ... ??? ... if you look at his eyes the angle is wrong if he's using the front sight on the rifle ... ???

just curious ... :bow:

ETA: Also that's a freakin' M1 or M2 ... ain't it ... ???

was there a special FH for Grenade shootin' on the early rifles ...???




ETA #2: Just thinking about it ... I would probably have "shouldered" the damn thing and "screwed up" ... :wink:



That's a Grinade son......... :cool:


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1586/cs380010897saa1.jpg

FUUN063
February 22, 2012, 00:35
Shouldering it hurts like a m................!!

I put them on the ground or like pictured.

Leland:shades:

jugrunner
February 24, 2012, 19:48
Shouldering it hurts like a m................!!

I put them on the ground or like pictured.

Leland:shades:

You're having too much fuun ... :p

johnny.308
February 26, 2012, 10:57
This is from the FN "How To" handbook.

http://www.thepatriotexchange.com/grenade.jpg

jugrunner
February 27, 2012, 23:40
yep ... I might have put a Fu*#in' on my shoulder ...

Ok ... nobody has told me how to aim the damn thing ... I'm not sticking my chin on top of the HG like that guy is doing ...

now I see why the top of the buttplates are dented and screwed ...

I'll see something else in a minute ... :wink:

I think I have a pair of pants like that ...

Arby
February 28, 2012, 00:20
Here's an old post by "Treadhead Ted" concerning rifle grenades.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11031&highlight=Rifle+grenades

He at some point references "bullet trap" RGs. There is another thread somewhere in which he talks about the "Hail Mary" moment (my words, not his) where one first pulls the trigger on a live round with a bullet trap RB affixed to the muzzle of the rifle and pray that one is not immediately terminated. Old Ted (EMDII) had some interesting posts before he left the Files.

Ironhandjohn
April 15, 2012, 21:04
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/mms_picture7.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/mms_picture5.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/mms_picture11.jpg

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/mms_picture14.jpg


Here's my Izzy launcher on my '67-dated Izzy rifle.


I need practice grenades.........:]

def90
April 15, 2012, 23:56
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=282007592

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/282007000/282007592/pix664229110.jpg

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/282007000/282007592/pix481214552.jpg

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/282007000/282007592/pix056530054.jpg

Ironhandjohn
April 16, 2012, 08:58
$1300....



I don't need them THAT badly.

Andy the Aussie
April 16, 2012, 18:35
We here use to throw M26 'nades off the end of our SLRs... :)

Waldo1
April 20, 2012, 05:37
That's a Grinade son......... :cool:


http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1586/cs380010897saa1.jpg

And THATS the face you have to make right before touching it off... :bow:

Windustsearch
April 21, 2012, 08:52
Six Day War.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v317/Windustsearch/1560.jpg

ppo84
April 24, 2012, 19:44
had an Izzy practice grenade about 9-10 yrs ago. found em on line somewhere at the time. Had a solid rubber head and screw on tail. Blanks that came with it were too wimpy. Sounded like a cork gun going off and didn't even make it across the back yard. So..... I decided to make my own blanks. Worked em up slowly to where they would launch it 150-200 yds. But of course that wasn't enough. Last one ended up with me on the ground and the grenade was last seen going over the trees at 600+yds. Oh well, it was a fun few days!

R1shooter
November 23, 2012, 22:47
The flip up South African sight has 3 apertures with 3 distances, sight is flipped up and one must co witness top of round part of grenade thru similarly shaped aperture, 6 o clock hold. Launched using explosive blank round, had TNT flakes and kicked like hell. Later grenades were m26 configuration with bullet trap, same for r4 and Fal , only difference was the plastic sight that attached to side of grenade fin, one for 7,62 one for 556, hope this helps.

L Haney
November 24, 2012, 08:46
. Launched using explosive blank round, had TNT flakes...


TNT? In a grenade blank? First I've ever heard of this.

SPEEDGUNNER
November 24, 2012, 09:12
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1586/cs380010897saa1.jpg

What's with the belt on that outfit?

BJS
November 24, 2012, 14:47
Here's a video from Military.com of a few grenades being launched from the FAL during the Libyan War.

FN FAL Rifle Grenade (http://www.military.com/video/guns/rifle-grenade-launchers/fn-fal-rifle-grenade-used-in-libyan-war/1762306130001/)

BJS

ExCdnSoldierInTx
December 18, 2012, 23:33
What's with the belt on that outfit?

Looks like its out of an old Canadian manual from the late 50's early 60's.
C1 rifle, tin pot hat, old style battle dress. Damn, that's old!

Ironhandjohn
January 05, 2013, 23:56
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/1356890245-1.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/1356890031.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/1356890104.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/1356890164.jpg


To be launched with a few of these...


http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/001.jpg

def90
January 06, 2013, 09:32
Nice! Where did you pick those up?

Ironhandjohn
January 06, 2013, 10:05
I found the inert grenade at Knob Creek back in October and a friend gave me the blanks.

Tim Dreas
January 18, 2013, 13:58
There are two standards of 22 mm rifle grenades, European and US. The European version is longer than the US version. NATO standardized on the shorter US version in 1961. NATO member countries then went to the shorter version. The difference can be seen by looking at non-NATO country rifles from Austria and Switzerland.

LaConservationist
January 20, 2013, 22:42
This is an older thread, BUT I still have GOT to get a couple of these things!!

EMBATP and I were together when he found his at the Creek as well......MAYBE I will be so lucky this April to run across one ....or THREE.....WELL THAT's IF they don't shut down the CREEK BEFORE APRIL!!

LaC

Ironhandjohn
January 21, 2013, 10:08
I found a couple of vendors who had Izzy practice grenades back in October. One guy is set up in the side sheds to the right of the pole barn, about 2/3 of the way down. He sells a lot of Israeli odds-and-ends and had a grenade for $35, I think.

The other guy is in the pole barn, on the same side and not far from where Raj(Did I get his name right? The guy who used to set up with Pat)has his tables. This guy had a box of $15 practice grenades but they were a lot more beat-up than the $35 one. Most were missing tail fins or had bent tubes. I grabbed the nicest-looking one in the box and you can see what the fins look like in my pics.

LaConservationist
January 21, 2013, 22:12
Thanks John, I will be looking hard for a few.....I am dying to set a few sailing!!!

I am making plans now to be at the Creek in April, vacation is scheduled and I am doing my best to dig up a couple vendor passes as well......PAT spoiled me!!

I am sure the closer we get someone will post a thread to see who all from here will be there! Always great meeting new people and putting Names and Aliases to faces!

LaC

StG58Freak
January 23, 2013, 20:38
Lets not forget the FN Bullet-Thru Rifle Grenade which was once called the Telgren. I believe it was the best of the rifle grenades because there was no need to use a blank to launch it you just fired one of your 7.62 NATO rounds and away she went.

I have an old Soldier Of Fortune mag around here somewhere with an article about them and a few pics of the grenade on an FAL. If i can find it i'll post the pics.

http://imageshack.us/a/img850/6531/telgren2.jpg

JasonB
January 25, 2013, 08:51
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/08/article-2126672-128325CA000005DC-501_634x484.jpg

Arby
January 27, 2013, 00:38
Lets not forget the FN Bullet-Thru Rifle Grenade which was once called the Telgren. I believe it was the best of the rifle grenades because there was no need to use a blank to launch it you just fired one of your 7.62 NATO rounds and away she went.

Again, check out the link I posted in post #19 of this thread that referenced some posts by EMDII, who had first-hand experience with bullet trap rifle grenades fired from the FAL.

I wish Ted still posted here.

Ironhandjohn
October 18, 2013, 21:22
<iframe width="420" height="315" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/2SC0Op4Lbz4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/1381703803_zps0b9100bb.jpg
http://i463.photobucket.com/albums/qq355/Ironhandjohn/1381706571_zps3d749aa2.jpg

stimpsonjcat
October 31, 2013, 21:55
The ones we shot at the FAL match were white plastic.

I may still have one here someplace.

Ironhandjohn
November 03, 2013, 14:02
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vTtF5h2GMXY/TedhNYwnWpI/AAAAAAAAIak/94CkDt4ZS8U/s1600/rifle-grenadeisraeli.jpg


Like these?

I found one at Knob Creek back in the spring but haven't launched it yet. If I had last month it would have landed in the next county, as the heavier MK14 went 356 yards.

GOVT1911
November 03, 2013, 15:28
I bought a complete case of those white/black ones from SARCO (IIRC?). It came in a wooden crate and had 6 complete RGs and a shitload of repair parts (fins, tubes, etc)

I gave them to friends and kept 2 for myself, then lost the two I kept. I still have all the spares if anyone has any of the RGs and wants repair parts.....

Torvold
November 03, 2013, 17:17
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLPc0Jrt8M

mountainman
November 03, 2013, 19:52
anybody out there would like to see to it that their orphan rifle Grin aide does not become extinct? what would really be kewl would be if I can start putting together the bullet trap that means these don't need to be fired by blanks anymore.

Ironhandjohn
November 03, 2013, 20:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLPc0Jrt8M



Hmm....



That rifle/gernaid combo looks oddly familiar.

:biggrin:

stimpsonjcat
November 03, 2013, 20:41
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-vTtF5h2GMXY/TedhNYwnWpI/AAAAAAAAIak/94CkDt4ZS8U/s1600/rifle-grenadeisraeli.jpg


Like these?

I found one at Knob Creek back in the spring but haven't launched it yet. If I had last month it would have landed in the next county, as the heavier MK14 went 356 yards.

That's them!

They only went to about 100 yards with my blanks.

Tim Dreas
November 26, 2013, 13:28
There are several different rifle grenades types that are not interchangeable. Even among 22 mm rifle grenades there are several types.

There is the, "long" European design used by most European countries before NATO standardization in 1961. This design continued in use in non-NATO countries such as Austria and Switzerland.

In 1961 NATO standardized on the, "short" 22 mm US-designed rifle grenade.

The body length difference between these two designs can be seen in comparing the Austrian STG-58 flash hider to the later Belgian FAL combo flash hider.

Yugoslavia designed and adopted a 22 mm rifle grenade design that does not safely interchange with any of the other 22 mm rifle grenade designs.

SAFN49
January 31, 2014, 19:16
I bought a complete case of those white/black ones from SARCO (IIRC?). It came in a wooden crate and had 6 complete RGs and a shitload of repair parts (fins, tubes, etc)

I gave them to friends and kept 2 for myself, then lost the two I kept. I still have all the spares if anyone has any of the RGs and wants repair parts.....

I'll take the spares if you still have them. I have 7 of the Izzy grenades :smile:

hagar
January 31, 2014, 20:08
South African replica but molded from the real thing.

http://i751.photobucket.com/albums/xx152/jakkals1/R1_zpsycapitxk.jpg

SAFN49
February 12, 2014, 20:44
What about the Izzy riFAL GRINades?

101ABN327
February 13, 2014, 22:01
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLPc0Jrt8M

SAFN49
February 13, 2014, 23:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtLPc0Jrt8M

Yeah I know. Is it a MK14 or a MK12. Please see my other post.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367044