Two police officers slashed by Occupy SF protesters

[Beckman]

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/11/13/police-officer-slashed-in-confrontation-with-occupy-san-francisco-protesters/
One police officer was slashed by a razor and another had his uniform torn and cheek cut in a clash with "Occupy San Francisco" protesters Saturday afternoon, police said.

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"The female slashed the inside of the officer's hand and ran back into the crowd before the officer had time to realize he was cut."

[Deltaten]

Oh! Those wacky OWS protesters ! ;)
Just anuuder angry women's group escapee , pissin' on The Man's parade. He deserved it 'cause he's: a) a man; b) a "pig" and c) a man !?!?! (makes sense if your philosophy is "all men are pigs" );)

But...but... but... they all be non-violent!?!?

[nyquil]

Police officers have been violating the constitution and abusing citizens for years. They were lucky to only get slashed. In reality they act as enforcers for the government (Obama!). If they honored their sworn oath they wouldn't lay a hand on any of these protesters!

[FUUN063]

nyquil, do you know these Police Officers?

Leland:shades:

[richardrose67]

During the late 1960's I had the great pleasure of being in the Navy at NAS JAX. A bunch of anti war long hairs sat down and linked arms at the front gate, I was on gate detail with a small group of sailors. The hippies refused to move. The OIC called for help and 30 Marines showed up like magic. A LT. went up to the hippie on the end, told him to get up and leave, he refused. The LT. popped him with a billy stick and 2 Pfc. hauled him off. LT. went to next , same game pop and gone. That group left and never came back. Very nice to see proper respect for a marine with a big stick.
Some things are very simple when approached from the right direction. You got to love the marines.

[nyquil]

richardrose67

This is what I don't love about our military. I am a former US Army Military Police Officer. I would have never thought to brag about the use of force. The acts that you are so jubilantly describing are what COWARDS do when they have back up!

Have you ever been busted in the head for exercising your constitutional rights? I bet you would be proud to work for Obama!

[nyquil]

FUUN063, I do not know these police officers. I corrected my original post by removing "these". My intention was to give my opinion on the actions of police officers who do these kinds of things.

[BiGB808]

nyquil are you retarded? hippies blocking a gate is not free speech


and a night stick shampoo is the only way many folks understand

[Elmer G FuD]

Originally posted by richardrose67
During the late 1960's I had the great pleasure of being in the Navy at NAS JAX. A bunch of anti war long hairs sat down and linked arms at the front gate, I was on gate detail with a small group of sailors. The hippies refused to move. The OIC called for help and 30 Marines showed up like magic. A LT. went up to the hippie on the end, told him to get up and leave, he refused. The LT. popped him with a billy stick and 2 Pfc. hauled him off. LT. went to next , same game pop and gone. That group left and never came back. Very nice to see proper respect for a marine with a big stick.
Some things are very simple when approached from the right direction. You got to love the marines.

Now thems wuz some plum stupid hippies. I wonder why we don't see no protesters on Naval bases any more to much.:|

In my Humble opinion. When you have been camping out in a public park for months you are no longer a protester, you are a squatter, abusing the free space other law abiding citizens should be able to enjoy, just to make a point. What is the point? YOU don't like the way things are. Well go get a job roofing, do some grunt ass dirty work, whatever it takes. Mabey take one of those Jobs "only a Mexican would take." Its good for you.:uhoh:

Years ago when I did a couple of summer stints with the Forest Service, in the Shoshone National Forest, just a short ways from Red Lodge Montana (What a place, God definitely scraped his finger through there). My partner (a female cop) and I were trained Wild land firefighters/observers, and squatter finders. 14 days in one place, period. Fire hazards, plus, Bears WILL find you and destroy everything to find easy food, specially in the spring after Hibernation. And If you gotta kill a bear where you aint sposed to be, DEEP DO DO for you sir.

It sucked ass running people off, but sorry, no homesteading pal. Occasionally we'd come across on who had made it way past the limit.


I scared the holy shit outa that poor Lady almost daily in our 4x4 flat bed dually which we alternated carrying two ATV's and a water tank set up on. I figured I could take that set up about anywhere, and did. When we ran outa road, ATV time, "I think I see Smoke, WE better Keep Going. Get the fire Gear":)

[flopshot]

Originally posted by nyquil
Police officers have been violating the constitution and abusing citizens for years. They were lucky to only get slashed. In reality they act as enforcers for the government (Obama!). If they honored their sworn oath they wouldn't lay a hand on any of these protesters!


nyquer please.......

[nyquil]

Gentlemen:

I understand your positions and agree with the majority of what you are saying. The problem I have is that we (the people) should not and cannot expect to live in a free country by allowing the government to use "force" without reasonable discretion. Most of your stories that you gentlemen mention involve the police or the military using force on peaceful protesters. Don't you think that, given who is running our country now, the government is going to use this alleged legitimacy to use force on us?

[chet]

Originally posted by nyquil
Gentlemen:

I understand your positions and agree with the majority of what you are saying. The problem I have is that we (the people) should not and cannot expect to live in a free country by allowing the government to use "force" without reasonable discretion. Most of your stories that you gentlemen mention involve the police or the military using force on peaceful protesters. Don't you think that, given who is running our country now, the government is going to use this alleged legitimacy to use force on us?

That's the thing: you and people like you think you can break traffic laws simply because you oppose who is currently in office or some of the laws they have made.

You fail to see that simply blocking traffic is in fact "force". You are forcing the closure of the roads until someone moves you. To me, it's better to get hit with a baton than a 5 ton and the officer mentioned was quite a bit more patient that he should have been. Had there been Marines in transit for a unit movement during war time, the 5 ton would have been acceptable.

Americans have been sold a bill of goods by the MLK wannabes - civil disobedience is simply mob rule with a veneer of politically (ie palatable for the media) correct methodology.

[Elmer G FuD]

Originally posted by richardrose67
During the late 1960's I had the great pleasure of being in the Navy at NAS JAX. A bunch of anti war long hairs sat down and linked arms at the front gate, I was on gate detail with a small group of sailors. The hippies refused to move. The OIC called for help and 30 Marines showed up like magic. A LT. went up to the hippie on the end, told him to get up and leave, he refused. The LT. popped him with a billy stick and 2 Pfc. hauled him off. LT. went to next , same game pop and gone. That group left and never came back. Very nice to see proper respect for a marine with a big stick.
Some things are very simple when approached from the right direction. You got to love the marines.

Take the scenario to its logical end nyquil. The Hippie "protesters" are allowed to stay and protest. They Cannot be touched in any way by police or military, eventually they will start figuring ways to "slip through" and then what. What if they just stay piled up at the gate all holding hands singing koombi ya and playing "War Pigs" by Black Sabbath. Where does it stop??...............it doesn't, THAT IS THE PROBLEM. Just can't let it go that way, period. So you gotta show people without doing any real harm that you mean business. It's not like cracking someone in the head with a baseball bat with intent to do real harm. Its a love tap for all practicle purposes, Consider what a group of Marines could do if they just let go, unrestrained, "GET THOSE COCSUCKERS OFF THE GATE NOW! Whatever it takes!!"

Restraint IS used, some men get carried away sure, that is the nature of the beast.

Ever watch those folks in the UK or France protest? I understand their Anger and frustration, it just don't work Man. It's a lost cause. You have to find a way to out GOOD the Bad people.
My extra two cents.:)

[richardrose67]

While we on the gate that day we had med evac coming in from Mayport, we had to clear the gate,and we did. What I still really find wrong about those times is that most of the draft dodgers when given amnesty they cut their hair put on a suit and got a job. They were for the most just did not want to fight for our country. They want all the rights and privileges but not willing to pay the price some did.:love:

[nyquil]

You guys seem to think that this is an all or nothing proposition. In my opinion, most of you are advocating the use of force as being one of the first methods used to disperse a none violent protest.

I'm not sure where the MLK comment comes from or what it is attributed to, but in the world we live in today, I see the police ( soon the the military) violating more constitutional rights than any of these OWS protesters have or will ever violate. I have proudly served as a US Army Military Police Officer and love my country.

For the record, I don't agree with the OWS protest. I think that if they are going to occupy anything, they should occupy the White House. Our government (from the OWS perspective) is getting a pass when it is the government's lack of leadership and adherence to the constitution that have caused many of these issues.

I don't break the law (someone mentioned this earlier), I adhere to the laws of our land and my country. In fact, I follow a higher power that is above all of the laws that our government has written. It is pathetic that our government doesn't even bother to adhere to its own laws (the Constitution!).

NYQUIL762

[nyquil]

richardrose67, I don't who is worse, those who want freedom and are not willing to fight or those who fight who are not willing to support or exercise those rights associated with freedom.

In reality, we fight wars to make the elite richer. Apparently, the elite have an incredible appetite for war. We blew up Vietnam and then we gave them billions to rebuild and in 2001 they were given "Most Favored Nation" status. We blow up Iraq and Afghanistan and now we give them billions of our tax dollars.

We shouldn't be arguing over busting some kids in the head with batons. We should be arguing over busting some government types over the head with batons.

Either way, good luck to us all and our country.

[chet]

Originally posted by nyquil
You guys seem to think that this is an all or nothing proposition. In my opinion, most of you are advocating the use of force as being one of the first methods used to disperse a none violent protest.


You don't get it. Once a person breaks the law, they are subject to force, especially after they fail to comply with a verbal order to desist. These idiots are counting on the police being handcuffed to some lengthy use of force continuum and they are exploiting that for their own purposes. The police however, have no idea how any or all of these morons may behave. Some simply sit and kum-ba-ya their way through the protest. Others run up with razors and slash them. For the police and the general public, the longer illegal activity persists, the worse things will be.

Originally posted by nyquil
I'm not sure where the MLK comment comes from or what it is attributed to, but in the world we live in today, I see the police ( soon the the military) violating more constitutional rights than any of these OWS protesters have or will ever violate. I have proudly served as a US Army Military Police Officer and love my country.


It comes from the now oft repeated meme that "non violent civil disobedience" is somehow Constitutionally protected. It's not. But, it doesn't prevent folks from attributing the advent of this activity to MLK and holding him in high esteem because of it.

Originally posted by nyquil

For the record, I don't agree with the OWS protest. I think that if they are going to occupy anything, they should occupy the White House. Our government (from the OWS perspective) is getting a pass when it is the government's lack of leadership and adherence to the constitution that have caused many of these issues.


I have no idea what point you are trying to make here.


Originally posted by nyquil

I don't break the law (someone mentioned this earlier), I adhere to the laws of our land and my country. In fact, I follow a higher power that is above all of the laws that our government has written. It is pathetic that our government doesn't even bother to adhere to its own laws (the Constitution!).

NYQUIL762

It's pathetic the citizens no longer understand their own laws or national philosophy nor hold their politicians accountable. Instead, they continue to blather on about unfair this and undeserved that and re-elect the same losers until they literally have to retire to get out of office. We deserve whatever befalls us.

[chet]

Originally posted by nyquil

We blew up Vietnam and then we gave them billions to rebuild and in 2001 they were given "Most Favored Nation" status. We blow up Iraq and Afghanistan and now we give them billions of our tax dollars.



We agree on something.

[nyquil]

CHET, I am with you and I agree with the majority of what you are communicating. NYQUIL762

[macvsog]

You can only do so much with the smell,shitty, garbage everywear bunch of lefty dogs who do not have a job, they just want to live out on handouts. My paying for a bunch of crying weanies we have here on this site! You "High school, jail House , peolpe of the freaks unite, somewhere tonight a cop is busting in the head of a rapist that he found doing a small girl. You people are out where the buses don't go!



A$$Holes

[Thomas Paine]

As I have been telling other folks on other boards, a lot of these folks just don't understand the rules. They want to play by Big Boy Rules but don't understand under those rules if you make a decision you not only own the decision but all the consequences of the decision and actions taken in carrying out of or supporting said decision.