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oldironsights
November 12, 2011, 21:39
These arrived last week, & I shot them both today.
Both are unusual pistols.
I have always lusted for a HK P7, but there were few available & expensive when they surfaced for sale.
Not as high as a SIG 210, but still too high for me to buy.
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It is an early one, returned to HK in trade by some German police units, then exported to the U.S.
Frame, slide, & box match.
It has some surface pitting near the muzzle. Perhaps from contact with a wet holster.
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Very comfortable to shoot. Very high build quality.
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Accuracy was very good at short distance, but dropped off at 25 yds. How many rounds have been fired from this barrel is not known.
Shooting it is unlike anything else.
From the squeeze cocker to the fluted chamber to the gas piston.

The trigger works in SA mode only when the front strap is squeezed, cocking the striker. If the trigger is not squeezed, then releasing pressure on the front strap de-cocks the striker automatically.
Should you want to shoot it in DA mode, pull the trigger all the way to the rear before squeezing the front strap, then with the trigger fully depressed, squeeze the front strap. This action sets & drops the striker & the pistol fires with your three outward fingers.
The barrel is fixed to the frame like a Walther PP, but instead of being a pure blowback action, the P7 uses the gas from firing to push a piston forward (My Desert Eagle also uses gas to push a piston, but it pushes the piston rearward to cycle the slide) to delay the action of the slide until pressure drops after the bullet exits the barrel.
The fluted chamber allows gas to escape & get between the case & chamber wall for easy extraction. I have a Russian SVT-40 & a PTR-91 with fluted chambers.
The barrel has no conventional rifling. It is polygonal. Just like a Glock, Desert Eagle and Cz82.

Striker at rest;
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Striker cocked & ready to drop.
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Next is my Steyr M9-A1
Mostly plastic ( Educated folks call it polymer; what's the difference? ), this pistol reminds me of My Glock ( Model 20 ). Back of the slide cover, mushy plastic trigger, itty bitty slide release, & the slippery as an eel feel of the plastic skin.
The Steyr came in a package deal. I was offered a beautiful Benelli model 76 pistol, but I remembered the trouble I had with a broken extractor in a Mauser HSc & a Madsen M47 where replacement parts were not available, so I passed on the pretty Italian gal & chose the more practical Steyr.
It is DAO, but the trigger is light & has a short stroke just like a SA pistol, so it shoots like a single action. I did not notice a spot on the trigger movement where you can short-stroke it to get off a quick follow-up shot like on a Glock.
It has a rod that passes from the breech face to the rear of the slide that lets the shooter know if the pistol is "Hot" ( Ready to fire ) with a chambered round.
The rifling is standard & reloaders can shoot lead bullets through the bore.
The rear sights are unique. The front post is like the top of a triangle & the rear sight is a trapazoid, or like the base of a triangle. Just align the two sights & fire. If the sights are adjusted properly ( Mine were not ) your rounds should be on target.
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I like em both. :smile:

Rudolf
November 13, 2011, 01:22
thanks for sharing.

hedp
November 20, 2011, 18:03
Nice set. I traded for a new M9A1 last spring. Remember em from when they were introduced and always thought they were cool. Ugly as sin, but I like it. I'm a Glock fan, but in some respects I think the Steyr out Glocks the Glock. Plus it goes well with my AUG. :shades:

oldironsights
November 26, 2011, 07:59
hedp, remove the slide from both the Glock frame & the Steyr frame, & compare the two. You will see the Steyr provides more support than the Glock.
With the slides installed, you can feel the better fit of the Steyr. Also very little movement of the slide when mounted.
While I truly like my Glock Model 20, the smaller Steyr is more accurate & sports a much better fit of all components.
Yes, it is an ugly pistol, as is most of the Steyr line, but one is supposed to focus on the target, not the pistol!

bykerhd
November 26, 2011, 22:24
I handled a Steyr M9 a couple years ago. Never shot one.

I TRIED to like the feel of it.:sad:
No-Go !
Ergos felt strange and I just could NOT get comfortable with the odd, very unusual sight picture.
Probably just me though.:rolleyes:

Too bad as CDNN had them dirt cheap at that time.