.22 cal. FAL conversion kit Group Buy

[kurbelgehause]

Putting together a group buy for .22 cal. FAL conversion kits.

Price is $429 each plus shipping. Each kit includes the barrel insert, complete bolt group and 1 magazine.

Extra magazines will be $49 each (bear in mind that you are essentially buying 2 magazines combined into one) or $35 each if built on a magazine body sent in by the buyer. I will not exchange magazine bodies, the buyer will receive the exact same magazine bodies that were sent in for conversion. If you desire to buy extra magazines, please specify if you want all-new .22 magazines or new internals only built on your magazine body.

Full details and photos are available here:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304586&pagenumber=1



$30 for custom length barrel (shortened from 21"). If you haven't already, please specify your desired barrel length in your post. I'll update the list with the barrel lengths already requested.

I will need full payment up front from each buyer to get the parts produced.

Deliveries will all be made at one time, within 90 days of full receipt of the group buy funds. Once production begins, I will make regular updates showing progress of the various kit components.

Each kit carries a 1 year warranty against defects in material and workmanship.

State what length barrel you want, 21" or shorter. If no specific barrel length is requested, the default will be a 21" barrel. Likewise, unless you specify, default is the metric kit.Sign-up list is below.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35902734/ORDER%20SHEET.pdf

Here's the group buy spreadsheet updated 23 AUG 2011.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35902734/22%20kit%20Buyer%27s%20List.pdf

[jimmbob]

What is the price for a kit with a liner shorter than 21"?

I'm definately interested (as I'm sure many are) if the price is somewhat close to that of the 21" kit.

Thanks, jb

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jimmbob
What is the price for a kit with a liner shorter than 21"?

I'm definately interested (as I'm sure many are) if the price is somewhat close to that of the 21" kit.

Thanks, jb

I'll get you a price on a shortened liner of any length.

[stimpsonjcat]

Do want!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by stimpsonjcat
Do want!

You're #16!

[thequietman]

What happens if you get less than 55 takers? It'll be a shame for this project to just die.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by thequietman
What happens if you get less than 55 takers? It'll be a shame for this project to just die.

That's pretty much it. I am not in a position to make all these kits without having already sold them. So the minimum must be sold or this will not get off the ground. So I hope all or most of those posters that indicated they would pick up a kit in the earlier thread come through. We'll see.:wink:

[brunop]

I'm in for two.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by brunop
I'm in for two.

Thank you, good Sir.

[jaflowers]

How are we ordering this kit from you? Are you going to post that the minimum amount of kits to be sold has been met then ask for all buyers to mail in their funds?? Just curious how the actual buying process will go down. Thanks. I'm looking forward to having some fun with one of these.
Jason

[Monkeyman]

I need a kit for L2A1 with auto-trip and high-cap mags.

[1006587]

I would like one kit.

[y0rlik]

What .22lr brands have you tested in your prototype? Have they all worked, or only some of them? I know conversion kits for other firearms can be very picky about ammo, and I would rather not get a $400 kit only to find out that I can shoot only one brand which is never stocked anywhere.

Also, have you run into any issues with the barrel liner sticking? I think I have read about other conversion kits' barrel liners getting stuck in the barrel after prolonged use (maybe the British version?).

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by y0rlik
What .22lr brands have you tested in your prototype? Have they all worked, or only some of them? I know conversion kits for other firearms can be very picky about ammo, and I would rather not get a $400 kit only to find out that I can shoot only one brand which is never stocked anywhere.

Also, have you run into any issues with the barrel liner sticking? I think I have read about other conversion kits' barrel liners getting stuck in the barrel after prolonged use (maybe the British version?).


1) So far, I've only used WallyWorld Federal .22. I don't think that this ammo is exactly the champagne of .22 caliber and the kit ate it without a hiccup.
Also, this ammo or its equivalent is easy to find so no worries there.

2) No problems with a sticking barrel liner even after firing several hundred rounds. I suspect the problems reported earlier with military kits may have been caused by leaving the liner in a barrel that hadn't been thoroughly cleaned (no disrespect meant to the prior military users) and subsequent corrosion locking the liner in. Maybe someone here on the Files has military experience with the kit and can chime in?

[jimmo]

I'm glad I checked the Files...
Here I am!!!
I'm IN for one Kit
....Mags! I want extra MAGs!!!

Edit: I posted 1st before seeing I was already on the list...
:D
Com On Men !!! get on board for kit & we'll be shooting for pennies vs $$$$ !!!!

[rmontez]

I'm in for 1 kit
Rick

[1006587]

I forgot to ask, Can you say on the invoice that it is kitchen cabinet hardware? That is what I'm supposed to be buying with this money.

[y0rlik]

I will take one kit and some (3-4) extra mags when they come out.

Where are all the other people who were clamoring for kits? The more people we get on board, the cheaper this is going to be.

ETA: a 21" liner is fine with me.

[angusmac]

Originally posted by 1006587
I forgot to ask, Can you say on the invoice that it is kitchen cabinet hardware? That is what I'm supposed to be buying with this money.

LOL :beer:

[catmguy445]

I've had a fair amount of experience with military .22 conversion kits, but they were for M16's, so they didn't have a barrel liner, just a chamber insert. However, I think a good way to prevent sticking would be to wipe the outside of the barrel liner with Mobil-1 synthetic lube, probably the 15W-50 viscosity would work best for that purpose. It's designed to lubricate the internal parts of automobile engines without breaking down and will withstand extreme temperatures and pressure. I've been using it to lube all my guns for about six months, and it works better than ANY commercial gun lube on the market. It also doesn't evaporate or leave any residue, and stays where you put it. I think it would be great for preventing an FAL barrel liner from sticking, and I plan on using it on my FAL kit. I'm already using it on all the other parts of my FAL's that need to be lubricated, and it also works great for preventing rust.

[LAFAL]

What the heck, put me down for 2. My brother, who I love dearly, will thank me later at Christmas when I give him his. Hopefully I'll have let him shoot mine a few times to get a good case of fal envy going before hand then give him his. I love him- that don't mean I don't mess with him every chance I get......

EDITED FOR BARREL LENGTH: make both standard 21" for Imbel/Springfield barrels. Will it work in an STG and an L1A1 as well as the Imbel bbls?

[stimpsonjcat]

I have rethought this and would also like to have 2 kits.

21" barrels for both of my kits please!

[def90]

What time frame is this? I really want one but I wouldn't be able to commit until I know a couple of pending business projects I have move forward.

Chad

[thedrickel]

One here.

[Douglas S Graham]

I will take one.

[raexcct2]

I will take one since I did say on the first thread that I wanted one. I hope you manage to sell the 70 to get the price down to $429.00

Hector

[kev]

I'm on vacation, but,......................put me down for one. I'll see about a couple more when I get back.

[M3A1]

Dumb question:

Are the mags steel, plastic, or inserts? I only ask because I didn't see any pictures of them.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by M3A1
Dumb question:

Are the mags steel, plastic, or inserts? I only ask because I didn't see any pictures of them.

I posted a photo of the magazine on the other thread. Any further questions should be directed there to keep this thread dedicated to the group buy.

Thanks!

[HeavyDuty]

In for one, I'll need a shorter liner. I have a payment question, though - like many I'm perpetually cash challenged. Will you have a way to accept payments on plastic?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by HeavyDuty
In for one, I'll need a shorter liner. I have a payment question, though - like many I'm perpetually cash challenged. Will you have a way to accept payments on plastic?

Yes, I can accept credit cards. More kitchen fittings?:biggrin:

[HeavyDuty]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause


Yes, I can accept credit cards. More kitchen fittings?:biggrin:

Yay consumer debt! :D That liner would really hurt if the bride shoved it up my...

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by HeavyDuty


Yay consumer debt! :D That liner would really hurt if the bride shoved it up my...


I can have the liner shortened so it won't hurt so bad....:devil:

[HeavyDuty]

That'll work. OK, confirm me for one!

[stoicrabbit]

I would like one kit. Please place me on the list. 21" barrel

edit: barrel length, 21"

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by stoicrabbit
I would like one kit. Please place me on the list

Done! Approaching the half-way point!

[HeavyDuty]

It's a little confusing having two signup lists in this thread - one in post 1 and one later. Just sayin'. ;)

Also, you can upload spreadsheets for public view at http://docs.google.com

Thanks for doing this project!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by HeavyDuty
It's a little confusing having two signup lists in this thread - one in post 1 and one later. Just sayin'. ;)

Also, you can upload spreadsheets for public view at http://docs.google.com

Thanks for doing this project!

Thanks for the feedback. I will zap as necessary.

[pmiya]

Put me down for 1 kit.

The picture of the range look very familiar, are you shooting at Wahsatch?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by pmiya
Put me down for 1 kit.

The picture of the range look very familiar, are you shooting at Wahsatch?

Guilty as charged! The range in Fruit Heights, Utah.

[pmiya]

I'm in Layton, I used to go up there but haven't been there in a while.

[raexcct2]

Son of a gun.

I'm in Layton also, well, when I'm not in Iraq. Hope to see one of these kits in person when I go on R&R at the end of the month.

[SCCogswell]

I'm in for 2 kits (one each with full length and 18" liners).
$495 each is OK with me.
Kudos to windhund on ARFcom for directing some traffic here.

[jimmbob]

Put me down for 1 kit please. Not yet sure on the length.

[HeavyDuty]

Any word on the pricing for the shortened liner?

[Oldman47]

Interested in one kit

[kurbelgehause]

The halfway point has been reached!:biggrin: :beer:

[Slo cat]

In celebration of Osama's demise, I will gladly take one.

Best Regards,
Slo cat

PS: What will the price be when we have 100 kits ordered?

PPS: Hey Crankcase, make that a 21" barrel.

[Mangus]

Put me down for 1.
Will be nice if I ever get this thing finished.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Slo cat
In celebration of Osama's demise, I will gladly take one.

Best Regards,
Slo cat

PS: What will the price be when we have 100 kits ordered?

Yes, one SOB down. The best price is for the Group Buy for 70 kits.

[Krink545]

I'm in for 1.

[kurbelgehause]

Update to Group Buy in post #1:

$30 for custom length barrel (shortened from 21"). If you haven't already, please specify your desired barrel length in your post. I'll update the list with the barrel lengths already requested.

[gravityfan]

I'm in for 1. 21" is fine.

[HeavyDuty]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause
Update to Group Buy in post #1:

$30 for custom length barrel (shortened from 21"). If you haven't already, please specify your desired barrel length in your post. I'll update the list with the barrel lengths already requested.

How should we measure - against the 7.62 boltface?

[farmer]

I'm in for one.

Bob

[XTanker]

I'm in for one- 21" please.

[troubleticket]

I get all misty eyed when I see a young entrapenuer going to all that trouble
to make us happy.

I'll take 1 with 21" barrel.

When would you like the money?

[specs]

put me down for one, 21" bbl
when will you be ready to ship?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by troubleticket
I get all misty eyed when I see a young entrapenuer going to all that trouble
to make us happy.

I'll take 1 with 21" barrel.

When would you like the money?

Thanks for the order. Payment is due when at least 70 kits are spoken for. We get closer every day.

Thanks!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by specs
put me down for one, 21" bbl
when will you be ready to ship?

Within 90 days of receipt of funds from all the people who signed up.

Thanks!

[qbertquartz2]

I would like one for 21" barrel. :fal:

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by D. Lehrman
1) Are your kits constructed to original spec? 2) Big question. Does your bolt group (as designed) work with the original liners and adapted .22 mags? 3) Has the test article been altered in any way from the HK spec, or reverse engineered from which of the .22 kits? 4) Last thing I'd want on my hands is another Erma-werke and it's (formerly) attendant headaches.


1) These kits are constructed in accordance with traditional firearm norms, meaning using the same types of steel used in similar firearms applications and heat treated as necessary. No outside design package was used.
2) All the new assemblies are compatible with the original assemblies. You can use an original barrel liner with the new bolt group or vice-versa. The new bolt group is compatible with the original magazine.
3) See reply #1
4) This kit has no relationship to anything Erma Werke made.

I hope this answers your questions. Feel free to ask if you have any other questions.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by D. Lehrman
Sorry, had to know; and didn't see some of these Qs answered in the other threads.....they may not make a big difference to others at all. An admirable effort on your part and definite service to the community here.

No problem. Thanks for asking. I'm sure you weren't the only one here wanting to ask the same questions. Thanks for the kind words. If anyone else has questions, please ask away. I'll be happy to put any doubts to rest.

[M 1928]

Put me down for 1.

Lost my HK kit in divorce!

[M 1928]

How are we going to be notified to send money? PMed?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by M 1928
How are we going to be notified to send money? PMed?

When enough kits have been spoken for, I'll announce it here.

[troubleticket]

Hi,
How much for a kit without the barrel, but with the magazine???????

[Dark Horse]

I'm in for 1

[denny]

I'm in for one - How much for spare mags ( 6/8 ) ??
Inch mags & metric mags ?
Denny

[kwthor]

I'll take one. Maybe two.

[Sancho44]

I'm in for one copy, 21" --extra mag availability would be a +.
Pls advise when you're ready to collect $ to make this happen. Once these are out, they'll seed more sales, for sure..

S44

[A square 10]

im in for a 21" kit , how close are we getting here ? please advise when ready to recieve funds

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by A square 10
im in for a 21" kit , how close are we getting here ? please advise when ready to recieve funds

50 down, 20 kits to go!

[fnogger]

I posted in the other thread wanting info about when extra mags will be available - any ideas? Waiting for that to commit to one ...

[charlie]

Hello i am in for one.. a 21" please advize??? Thank-you Charlie

[Grinder]

I'll take 2

[Headhunter11]

I'm interested in one but could you make it for an L1A1? Or is that later down the road?

[1gewehr]

Do you have any idea of a price for extra mags? Having one mag is disappointing.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by 1gewehr
Do you have any idea of a price for extra mags? Having one mag is disappointing.

Okay, guys. I will see what I can do about making more magazines available for the first round of kits.

[thequietman]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause
Okay, guys. I will see what I can do about offering more magazines
if a buyer wants more than one.
I think you can count on everyone wanting at least a second mag. I know if you make it available, I'll take at least one extra, two if possible.
I think the kit should come with two mags as a standard. Couple of extra bucks won't make much difference, but if your one and only mag breaks or gets lost, you have one very expensive parts collection that probably won't even do a good job as a paperweight. :smile:

[IRONWORKER]

How many rds of .22 does the mag hold?

Put me down for 1 kit (full length barrel!) but i definitely want more than 1 mag, when will you have extra mags for sale?

[specs]

Originally posted by thequietman

I think you can count on everyone wanting at least a second mag. I know if you make it available, I'll take at least one extra, two if possible.
I think the kit should come with two mags as a standard. Couple of extra bucks won't make much difference, but if your one and only mag breaks or gets lost, you have one very expensive parts collection that probably won't even do a good job as a paperweight. :smile:


any idea when you will be ready to ship?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by IRONWORKER
How many rds of .22 does the mag hold?

Put me down for 1 kit (full length barrel!) but i definitely want more than 1 mag, when will you have extra mags for sale?

The magazine holds 20 rounds. The extra mags will be available and ship when the kits do.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Headhunter11
I'm interested in one but could you make it for an L1A1? Or is that later down the road?

Yes, I can do an L1A1 version. PM sent on the L1A1 version. If the terms are agreeable, please post here and I'll add you to the list.

Thanks!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by specs



any idea when you will be ready to ship?

Deliveries will all be made at one time, within 90 days of full receipt of the group buy funds. Once production begins, I will make regular updates showing progress of the various kit components.

Right now, we are just 15 kits short of the 70 needed for the $429 price.

[preston1026]

heck, im in for a full length kit.

[Headhunter11]

That'll be excellent, I don't mind paying the additional $30 to modify the barrel and I can get some mag bodies to send to you too. So you can put me down for one.

Thanks!
Chris

[raexcct2]

kurbelgehause,

Can you send me the details on the L1A1 version? I have more inch FALs than metrics.

[IRONWORKER]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause


The magazine holds 20 rounds. The extra mags will be available and ship when the kits do.

Excellent! - How much $$$ are extra mags? - I've got at least 100 metric mags so if i can send some in for a .22 conversion & save $$$ i would like to do that

I'm in for 1 full length kit & some mags extra mags!!

[kurbelgehause]

I put together a better spreadsheet showing who wants to buy what. If you already posted that you wanted a kit, please have a look at the list and PM me if a correction, clarification or addition needs to be made.

Thanks!

[LAFAL]

Dude, now you have me down for one kit and one mag. It's 2 kits. I'd like 2 mags for each kit please.

[raexcct2]

I'd like two extra magazines also.

[Fang]

Here's some additional information for my entry: I'd like the 21" kit and would also be interested in a spare mag if any are available.

[thequietman]

You already have me for 1 kit. Make it 21" barrel and 2 extra mags.

One question. At some point I'm thinking of cutting the barrel down to 18". Would it be better to get a kit with 18" barrel, or would that cause problems in full length barrel?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by thequietman
You already have me for 1 kit. Make it 21" barrel and 2 extra mags.

One question. At some point I'm thinking of cutting the barrel down to 18". Would it be better to get a kit with 18" barrel, or would that cause problems in full length barrel?

I would not recommend using a liner longer than the host barrel. If you use an 18" liner in a longer host barrel, the worst than can happen is getting .22 powder residue in the gas system, something I think is hardly going to be a problem for you FAL.

[bar2260]

Would like to order mine unmarked so I can serial to my kit, hope that isn't
a problem.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by bar2260
Would like to order mine unmarked so I can serial to my kit, hope that isn't
a problem.

No worries. They come unmarked.

[kurbelgehause]

Here's the information on magazines. New extra magazines will be available for purchase to ship along with the kit. Extra magazines will be $49 each (bear in mind that you are essentially buying 2 magazines combined into one) or $35 each if built on a magazine body sent in by the buyer. I will not exchange magazine bodies, the buyer will receive the exact same magazine bodies that were sent in for conversion. If you desire to buy extra magazines, please specify if you want all-new .22 magazines or new internals only built on your magazine body.

Thanks, all.

[y0rlik]

How critical is it to have functioning outer magazine bodies? I have one that I picked up for (relatively) cheap on GB recently. Unfortunately, one of the feed lips is bent. I could spend time working on it to get it to feed 7.62x51 properly, but if the outside feed lips don't influence the feeding of .22lr (I can't imagine that they would), then I'll just send it in for conversion to .22lr and forget about fixing it.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by y0rlik
How critical is it to have functioning outer magazine bodies? I have one that I picked up for (relatively) cheap on GB recently. Unfortunately, one of the feed lips is bent. I could spend time working on it to get it to feed 7.62x51 properly, but if the outside feed lips don't influence the feeding of .22lr (I can't imagine that they would), then I'll just send it in for conversion to .22lr and forget about fixing it.

The condition of the feed lips is not critical since they do not contact the .22 round at all. The most important thing is that the magazine lock up properly in the rifle.

[specs]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause
Here's the information on magazines. New extra magazines will be available for purchase to ship along with the kit. Extra magazines will be $49 each (bear in mind that you are essentially buying 2 magazines combined into one) or $35 each if built on a magazine body sent in by the buyer. I will not exchange magazine bodies, the buyer will receive the exact same magazine bodies that were sent in for conversion. If you desire to buy extra magazines, please specify if you want all-new .22 magazines or new internals only built on your magazine body.

Thanks, all.

Mark me down for 1 additional mag, all new parts including the body.

[Sancho44]

Please add one additional (complete) mag for me, too.

Thanks, S44

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Sancho44
Please add one additional (complete) mag for me, too.

Thanks, S44


Done!

[thequietman]

Put me down for 2 new mags in addition to the kit

[Nomad, 2nd]

Like many, I didn't know the status.

PM me when ready and I'm in for a kit, and will send in several mags to be converted.

(I assume I can still shoot the 21 inch barrel liner in my {ARA also?)

I'll post this link to other forums now...

[stoicrabbit]

please put me down for an extra magazine, complete.
thanks

[CaptainJ]

kurbelgehause


Put me down for one as well

1 kit
metric with 21"bbl
2 extra mags



PM me or something when funds need to be sent

[1gewehr]

kurbelgehause,
Please revise my order to include an additional 2 mags . I'll send you 4 mag bodies to use for my 2 kits and 2 extra mags.
Thank you!

[jimmo]

15 more kits to Go!!!

I too, will send in a couple of mags to be converted (2).
Are you ready for some money for further R&D ???
I will gladly send you the funds. In order to participate in the drudgery of a quality assurance shake down.
(Nothing extreme or abusive) ...:D
Jimmo

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Nomad, 2nd
Like many, I didn't know the status.

PM me when ready and I'm in for a kit, and will send in several mags to be converted.

(I assume I can still shoot the 21 inch barrel liner in my {ARA also?)



I'll post this link to other forums now...



If you meant PARA, you can order a liner cut to your para barrel length and use that in a 21" barrel as well.

Feel free to pass the word about these kits. We are very close to reaching 70 kits spoken for.

Thanks!

[kurbelgehause]

12 kits to go! I'll post an updated list tonight.

[preston1026]

Could you quote a price for an additional barrel liner?

I would like to add an additional mag to my order. I will send a aluminum mag that wont feed properly sense the feed lips are a null issue for the .22lr

Was it hard finding 70 mag bodies?

[Grinder]

1 extra mag for each of my 2 kits=2 extra tota
Thanksl

[ratas calientes]

I'll take one kit plus two extra magazines built on mag bodies that I supply.
Please send me payment details and shipping address for mag bodies.
:cool:

[Douglas S Graham]

I will take an extra mag, I will supply the body. THanks.

[Slo cat]

I will take one extra .22 magazine. I will supply the mag for the conversion.

Slo cat

[1gewehr]

11 kits to go! It's time to talk this up on other boards so we can get these done! We're too close to let it fail.

[thedrickel]

Please make mine full length (21"). I'll take 2 extra mags and supply the bodies.

[nelstomlinson]

I'll take one, 21" barrel, one spare mag on your body.

Three questions:

How likely is it that I'll be able to buy another of these in the future? Do you plan to make these again? Will magazines be available in the future?

I would like to buy another kit within a year, and probably two more on top of that someday, but right now one is as far as my budget will reach. I need one for me now, and one for each kid as they grow into a full size rifle.

This is my first group buy, so somebody please fill me in on the details of how and when to send money?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by nelstomlinson
I'll take one, 21" barrel, one spare mag on your body.

Three questions:

How likely is it that I'll be able to buy another of these in the future? Do you plan to make these again? Will magazines be available in the future?

I would like to buy another kit within a year, and probably two more on top of that someday, but right now one is as far as my budget will reach. I need one for me now, and one for each kid as they grow into a full size rifle.

This is my first group buy, so somebody please fill me in on the details of how and when to send money?

Future production depends on getting this first batch off the ground. If it does take off, and it look like it will, I intend to make more runs and extra magazines. I will ask for everyone's payment when 70 kits have been spoken for. Thanks for your order.

[tiger222]

PM sent, I'm in for a metric kit, 21" with a spare mag.
thx

[kurbelgehause]

9 kits to go!

[LAFAL]

bump lest we lose it. come on now. 9 more to go.

[embatp]

whats the price on this again? full length metric with 2 mags?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by embatp
whats the price on this again? full length metric with 2 mags?


Quoted from an earlier post in this thread:

"Price is $429 each plus shipping. Each kit includes the barrel insert, complete bolt group and 1 magazine.

Extra magazines will be $49 each (bear in mind that you are essentially buying 2 magazines combined into one) or $35 each if built on a magazine body sent in by the buyer. I will not exchange magazine bodies, the buyer will receive the exact same magazine bodies that were sent in for conversion. If you desire to buy extra magazines, please specify if you want all-new .22 magazines or new internals only built on your magazine body."


Thanks!

[denny]

I'm in for at least 4 spare mags. plus the kit I put in for in an earlier post
- I will supply bodies.
Denny

[Quack]

I'll take two kits plus two extra magazines built on mag bodies that I supply.

Please send me payment details and shipping address for mag bodies.

Thanks,

[M829A3]

Mine is fine standard length. I will send you 3 additional mags for conversion

[Quack]

BTT

[catmguy445]

Mine's for a standard length metric FAL, and I'll send you one extra mag body to convert. Do you need the body only, or do you need the body and floorplate, or the entire magazine when you do the conversion?

[stimpsonjcat]

Each kit comes with one mag, yes?

Also, please edit my entry to note I will send you 3 magazines for conversion. When do I need to do that?

[Hot Diggity]

Please put me down for one conversion kit and one additional complete magazine.

HD

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by catmguy445
Mine's for a standard length metric FAL, and I'll send you one extra mag body to convert. Do you need the body only, or do you need the body and floorplate, or the entire magazine when you do the conversion?

I only need the body and floorplate, you can keep all the other components.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by stimpsonjcat
Each kit comes with one mag, yes?

Also, please edit my entry to note I will send you 3 magazines for conversion. When do I need to do that?

Yes, each kit comes with one magazine.

I will notify the group when they can start sending magazines for conversion. That will happen after all the payments are collected and production begins.

[kurbelgehause]

6 kits to go. We're almost there.:beer:


Once this kicks off, I will provide status reports so you can all see how the parts are progressing along with photos of the components as they are completed and the kits near completion. I really appreciate your business and want to maintain very clear communications with the group. Take care and stay cool!

[Echo.Foxtrot.]

Please add me to the Buy for the following:

Qty-1 Kit /Metric with 21"bbl.
Qty-2 Mags on Bodies sent in.

[jamesch6]

Can we jump in after you've reached 70? I don't have the funds at the moment but I'm extremely interested in an inch kit!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
Can we jump in after you've reached 70? I don't have the funds at the moment but I'm extremely interested in an inch kit!

Once this first run sells, I'll have a look at another run.

[jimmo]

/ Lurker / stopping in for a look... we're almost there...

[LAFAL]

We're at what, 5 left??????? Come on, guys. Repost in the general for sale with an "update" and maybe someone will finally jump on board.

[kwthor]

If y'al can wait until November I can buy a second one. :D

[specs]

if we have to wait till November for the best price, I am ok with that.

[Hot Diggity]

Just a little nudge to keep this alive. I'd like to see more like 85 takers, (on a stand-by list) so when the guys who don't follow up, or decide they really can't afford it back out we'll still make the minimum number.

This is one of those "If only..." things that I really want to see happen.

Tell all your friends. I may buy a spare as an investment!

HD

[A square 10]

" ...Here's the information on magazines. New extra magazines will be available for purchase to ship along with the kit. Extra magazines will be $49 each (bear in mind that you are essentially buying 2 magazines combined into one) or $35 each if built on a magazine body sent in by the buyer. I will not exchange magazine bodies, the buyer will receive the exact same magazine bodies that were sent in for conversion. If you desire to buy extra magazines, please specify if you want all-new .22 magazines or new internals only built on your magazine body....."


I am in for two [2] additional mags , i wish them to be 'new made as 22cal' , dont want to sacrifice any of my originals at this time ,


what should we be allowing for shipping as a guestimate ? will it come packaged together or in seperate packages [OK either way with me ]

[kurbelgehause]

[i]

I am in for two [2] additional mags , i wish them to be 'new made as 22cal' , dont want to sacrifice any of my originals at this time ,


what should we be allowing for shipping as a guestimate ? will it come packaged together or in seperate packages [OK either way with me ] [/B]

Shipping should not be over $15; I will not add any handling charges.
The kit will ship in one box.

[jamesch6]

Looks like finances will be there for me. Put me down for an inch kit, 21" barrel, 1 mag.

4 to go!!!

[y0rlik]

Update my order to add three extra magazines. I will supply the bodies.

Out of curiosity, you say that the kit comes with one magazine. If I supply an extra magazine body, would you reduce the price on the kit correspondingly since you are only supplying the guts, not the entire magazine?

[Frenchkat]

Well, I've been sitting on the fench for too long. I had forgotten this thread until today.

Put me down for a metric, 21" kit with the one mag.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by y0rlik
Update my order to add three extra magazines. I will supply the bodies.

Out of curiosity, you say that the kit comes with one magazine. If I supply an extra magazine body, would you reduce the price on the kit correspondingly since you are only supplying the guts, not the entire magazine?

If you want to go that route, I can drop the price of the kit by $14, the same price difference between buying a single all-new magazine or a conversion on your mag body.

[jamesch6]

3 to go if my math is right. Getting close. Man - can't wait to shoot my L1A1 on the cheap!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
3 to go if my math is right. Getting close. Man - can't wait to shoot my L1A1 on the cheap!

You are correct, Sir. 3 more kits to go. The Group Buy spreadsheet has been updated in Post #1.

[kurbelgehause]

A mental meandering, I thought there would be more interest in L1A1 kits. Right now, the group buy ratio is about 32 metric kits for every inch kit. Do metric owners have more interest in .22 conversion kits or are there really 32 metric rifles for every inch type out there? :?

[jamesch6]

This surprises me too. If I read right, the inch kit will fit a metric gun just fine, correct?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
This surprises me too. If I read right, the inch kit will fit a metric gun just fine, correct?

No, besides different magazine bodies, the inch barrel liner is smaller in diameter than the metric liner.

[jamesch6]

But isn't the diameter just barely smaller? It would still fit in the original barrel, correct? Would it just bounce around too much?

Not being critical - just want to understand.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
But isn't the diameter just barely smaller? It would still fit in the original barrel, correct? Would it just bounce around too much?

Not being critical - just want to understand.

The metric liner will not fit in an inch barrel, the inch will fit in a metric barrel. However, the inch liner installed in a metric barrel will have less support than the metric liner will. For this reason, I strongly recommend that this not be done.

[jamesch6]

Gotcha. I understand now. Thanks!

[LtRiker]

What time frame are we into here?

Just a few kits to reach 70 and then we need to pay in full?


Considering this, but would have to build/buy another FAL as I just sold my last one a few months ago...




Hmmm, anyone have an aluminum upper for sale?

[y0rlik]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause


If you want to go that route, I can drop the price of the kit by $14, the same price difference between buying a single all-new magazine or a conversion on your mag body.

I will supply four magazine bodies then. That gives my current order as one metric kit with full length (21") barrel liner and a total of four magazines with the bodies supplied by me.

[panzer]

I will take one METRIC kit with 2 mags, and a 11inch barrel please. No typo, 11 inches. Thanks!

Also can I get a seperate 21 in liner to just swap the liners and one bolt assembly for 2 rifles? If this is a go, then add a 21 in liner as well to the above. Thanks! Both rifles Metric.

[johnny]

Can a shorter liner be used in a longer barrel? I assume so unless it would cause fouling issues or something?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by johnny
Can a shorter liner be used in a longer barrel? I assume so unless it would cause fouling issues or something?

Yes, you can use a shorter liner in a longer barrel. I think you would only need to remove and clean the host barrel periodically to remove accumulated fouling at the liner crown so you don't have it get locked in after hundreds of .22 rounds being fired.

[A square 10]

last i looked you had me down for a metric kit , but no mags , im in for two of your metric mags as well - marked to the 22cal ,

we gotta be close - post the address for the funds when you are ready to receive them ,

are you going to have credit card ability and pay pal ? i would add the 3% fee for that as opposed to dealing with the bank and the mail , but i can handle whatever you prefer

[fnogger]

I'd like to claim one (full length) and 2 extra mags, but won't have money until mid august.

Assuming #70 happens and the buy is on, how soon does money have to be in?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by A square 10
last i looked you had me down for a metric kit , but no mags , im in for two of your metric mags as well - marked to the 22cal ,

we gotta be close - post the address for the funds when you are ready to receive them ,

are you going to have credit card ability and pay pal ? i would add the 3% fee for that as opposed to dealing with the bank and the mail , but i can handle whatever you prefer

I have you down for 1 kit including 1 mag and 2 extra mags.

I can take credit cards.

Thanks!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by fnogger
I'd like to claim one (full length) and 2 extra mags, but won't have money until mid august.

Assuming #70 happens and the buy is on, how soon does money have to be in?

Once 70 kits are spoken for, I'll have everyone start sending payments in. Once you can spring for a kit, let me know. I will have a few extras.

[zedsdead]

I'm in for one kit, 21" metric with one extra magazine

[jeager]

Please update my order, I wish to add 1 mag supplied by me. thanks

[kurbelgehause]

Okay, 1 kit to go!:biggrin:

[DrBaboon]

1 metric kit, standard length barrel insert. Looks like I'm #70.

[pmiya]

kurbelgehause,
When you're ready for payment send me your phone number and I will give you a call with my credit card info. Also can I pick up my order when you've got them ready?

Thanks,
pmiya
Layton, UT

[AndyC]

Just waiting to hear about my recent job.... it's really close now. If it comes through (hopefully this week) I'm in for a metric kit, standard length if someone else has to drop out. Will keep you updated about the job.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by AndyC
Just waiting to hear about my recent job.... it's really close now. If it comes through (hopefully this week) I'm in for a metric kit, standard length if someone else has to drop out. Will keep you updated about the job.

Some kits above the 70 will be available to anybody who wasn't part of the first 70. Good luck with the job!

[kurbelgehause]

Okay, Gents. Here is the order form. Just click on it to open it and print it out.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35902734/ORDER%20SHEET.pdf

For a special-order barrel length, use the "stick" method. With an UNLOADED rifle with a closed action and firing pin removed, insert a dowel or rod until it touches the bolt face, make a mark on the rod right where the crown ends (NOT where the flash hider ends), pull it out and measure the overall length. It is better to have a slightly under-length barrel than slightly over. The .22 barrel liner will be precisely cut to the length you specify so be careful here.

Don't send any magazines in for conversion yet. When all the kits have been paid for, I'll let you all know it's time to send them in.

Here's the game plan for payment. So you don't expose your hard-earned Sheckels to any undue risk and for my sanity, I really, REALLY prefer payment by US Postal Service Money Order. As I stated earlier, production will not begin until all the funding has come in. What this means is your payment will sit safe and sound until all the payments are in and I can start to make chips. If, God forbid, so many people bail on their commitment that the project has to be canceled, I will be able to quickly refund your payment to you. You will only be out postage and a money order fee. Please post any concerns you may have or PM me. Thanks all!

[kwthor]

Okay, what WildCatID do I type in?
What password?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by kwthor
Okay, what WildCatID do I type in?
What password?

Oops. Okay, try it now.

[y0rlik]

Linky still no worky. Methinks your session is timing out. Does your university have something similar to this (https://pandora.nss.udel.edu/) that you could use for distributing the order form digitally?

[jamesch6]

What about a shared Google doc or a file in DropBox that could be shared?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by y0rlik
Linky still no worky. Methinks your session is timing out. Does your university have something similar to this (https://pandora.nss.udel.edu/) that you could use for distributing the order form digitally?

I'll fix it tonight. Thanks

[Quack]

kurbelgehause,

You said that you have the facility to accept credit cards.

What's the procedure?

Thanks,

Quack

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
What about a shared Google doc or a file in DropBox that could be shared?

Thanks for the tip.

[pmiya]

What's the address to mail the money order and from to? Also need to know what name to put on the money order. Thanks

[Fang]

Originally posted by pmiya
What's the address to mail the money order and from to? Also need to know what name to put on the money order. Thanks

It's on the order form.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Quack
kurbelgehause,

You said that you have the facility to accept credit cards.

What's the procedure?

Thanks,

Quack

For anyone who wants to pay by credit card, record your card information on the order form.

[jamesch6]

Thanks for doing this. My USPS MO will likely go out tomorrow afternoon!

[specs]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause


For anyone who wants to pay by credit card, record your card information on the order form.

Can I scan and email the filled in order form. Will be paying with a credit card.

[MG Johnny]

Will this work in a RR F/A Gun?:aug:

[Fang]

My order form is in the mail. Now any further delays are not my fault!

[A square 10]

mine will be in the mail tomorrow , thanks , ill include the funds rather than the credit card data , will you be marking the list for those PD as received ? i hope all come through as promised

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by specs


Can I scan and email the filled in order form. Will be paying with a credit card.

That's fine.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by A square 10
mine will be in the mail tomorrow , thanks , ill include the funds rather than the credit card data , will you be marking the list for those PD as received ? i hope all come through as promised

Yes, I'll update the list periodically to show who has paid.

Thanks!

[LAFAL]

Do we mail the mag bodies we're supplying to the same address or different?
I'm sending you one extra mag body per kit for conversion so that's $70 total for the mags if 2 are included, right???

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by LAFAL
Do we mail the mag bodies we're supplying to the same address or different?


Yes, the mags get sent to the same address but not yet. I'll let everyone know when the mags can ship.


Originally posted by LAFAL
I'm sending you one extra mag body per kit for conversion so that's $70 total for the mags if 2 are included, right???


Yes, that's right.

[kurbelgehause]

Guys, a few people have asked whether this kit will work with registered select-fire FALs. The original-manufacture kit was set up to trip the sear in a FAL. After chewing on this for a while and given the current legal climate regarding these things, I think this is the most prudent way to proceed. The standard kit will have a bolt that lacks the rib underneath the bolt body to permit full-auto fire in a sear-cut receiver. If you don't have a registered full-auto receiver, it won't make any difference. If you do own a registered C3 FAL, I can provide the original type bolt. However, I will need documentation showing the rifle is registered to the buyer to do so. Once I receive the documentation, I will serial number the bolt to that registered rifle. Forgive me if this seems paranoid but I have good reasons to be so which means I'm paranoid). I cannot afford (nor do I want) to put myself in a position to give anyone an excuse to shut me down or worse. It is my intention to be in business providing these types products to the FAL community for a long time.
Any buyers that signed up with the intention of buying a kit to use in their registered C3 FAL, please PM me if you have any reservations.


Thanks,

Ray

[MG Johnny]

PM Sent

[stimpsonjcat]

PM sent

If bolts with trip beards were a problem they would be so for every FAL out there...except my 8mm where I hacked it off.

[Echo.Foxtrot.]

USPS Money Order sent.

[pmiya]

You should get my order and credit card info today. They just had to walk it from the mailbox to your P.O. box.

[jugrunner]

tag ...

I promise to get one of these for myself ... very cool !! ... :bow:

just not in the gun budget at the moment ...

[jamesch6]

I made a goof. I thought the inch kit also included a 20rnd mag, but after more carefully reading, it doesn't. I already have the money order ready to go, but it does not include an extra $35 for a magazine conversion.

Should I send this one on, and then send a separate order form w/ a MO for just a magazine conversion (magazine can be drop shipped when ready)?

Sorry!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
I made a goof. I thought the inch kit also included a 20rnd mag, but after more carefully reading, it doesn't. I already have the money order ready to go, but it does not include an extra $35 for a magazine conversion.

Should I send this one on, and then send a separate order form w/ a MO for just a magazine conversion (magazine can be drop shipped when ready)?

Sorry!

The inch kit does include a magazine, just not built from a mag body I provide. The buyer has to send in the body for conversion. I made a goof too. The price for an inch kit is $445, not $459. For any inch buyers who already sent payment in, I'll refund the difference.

[jamesch6]

Ah, understood. I made my MO for the old price. No worries. I appreciate the clarification. I'll drop it in the mail today.

I recall you saying that you would tell us when to send in mag bodies for spare mags. I assume this also holds true for inch kits?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by jamesch6
Ah, understood. I made my MO for the old price. No worries. I appreciate the clarification. I'll drop it in the mail today.

I recall you saying that you would tell us when to send in mag bodies for spare mags. I assume this also holds true for inch kits?

Yes, hold off on sending in the mag bodies until I let you all know it's time to do so.

[Elwarpo]

1) Is it too late to get in
2) What is the cost for a second liner, one 15" and one 21"
3) will this also fit my Indian rifle?
4) Do I have to buy a complete kit for my metric or another liner
5) Can I use metric converted mags in my inch rifle?

Thanks

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Elwarpo
1) Is it too late to get in
2) What is the cost for a second liner, one 15" and one 21"
3) will this also fit my Indian rifle?
4) Do I have to buy a complete kit for my metric or another liner
5) Can I use metric converted mags in my inch rifle?

Thanks


1) Is it too late to get in? No, it isn't too late to get in. Even though the 70 kits have been reached, other people are welcome to jump onboard.

2) What is the cost for a second liner, one 15" and one 21"? No price for individual components yet. I'll have to work on that.

3) will this also fit my Indian rifle? No, inch liners have a different, smaller diameter than metric liners.

4) Do I have to buy a complete kit for my metric or another liner? See #2.
5) Can I use metric converted mags in my inch rifle? They will fit but I cannot guarantee function.

[y0rlik]

USPS MO for 1 metric kit, 17.25" liner and 4 mag conversions (I supply the bodies) sent today. Per our earlier discussion, I am supplying the body that would have come with the kit, so I reduced the price of the kit by $14. If this is a problem, let me know.

[jamesch6]

USPS MO went out today!

Forgot to write my screen name on the order form, so James Hagewood = jamesch6 :-)

[Grinder]

Can those of us ordering 2 kits combine shipping ?
Thanks

[Hot Diggity]

USPS Money order mailed out this afternoon.

I think it's great that you aren't cutting off new orders. As long as it took to get the original seventy there may be some who, for whatever reason, never send in their payment. Having a few orders in reserve, and possibly counting all the extra magazines we've ordered as part of the minimum, I'm hoping there are reviews of your conversion kits posted here soon!

HD

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Grinder
Can those of us ordering 2 kits combine shipping ?
Thanks

As a great big "Thank You!" to those in this group buy who sprang for two kits, yes, I can combine shipping. I'll adjust any order totals I've already received to reflect that.:D

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by y0rlik
USPS MO for 1 metric kit, 17.25" liner and 4 mag conversions (I supply the bodies) sent today. Per our earlier discussion, I am supplying the body that would have come with the kit, so I reduced the price of the kit by $14. If this is a problem, let me know.

You're good.

[jeager]

I have committed to buy but I am going to withhold payment untill I see a video of the kit in operation and a closeup of all parts completed. Not meant to be slam against your ability or honesty, its just my cautious nature. thanks

[jimmo]

Due to me spending the funds earmarked for this .22 kit.
On another project.
I will need approximately 2 weeks to sell off some of my gear. To raise needed funding.
My apologies men.
I will honor my words, and not delay - to keep this group buy on track.
Jimmo

[jaflowers]

Sent in my money order yesturday. Just confirming 1 metric kit with the 21" barrel and 1 magazine. I forgot to put my screen name on the order form so jaflowers=jason flowers. Thanks.

[jamesch6]

Originally posted by jeager
I have committed to buy but I am going to withhold payment untill I see a video of the kit in operation and a closeup of all parts completed. Not meant to be slam against your ability or honesty, its just my cautious nature. thanks

jeager, check out the first post in this thread on page #1 by kurbelgehause. It links back to the original thread, and there are detailed pictures. I understand that kurbelgehause is working on a video if I recall.

[kurbelgehause]

Payments are coming in. The updated group buy list is in post #1 of this thread.

Thanks!

[Grinder]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause


As a great big "Thank You!" to those in this group buy who sprang for two kits, yes, I can combine shipping. I'll adjust any order totals I've already received to reflect that.:D

PMO on the way

[Grinder]

Originally posted by jeager
I have committed to buy but I am going to withhold payment untill I see a video of the kit in operation and a closeup of all parts completed. Not meant to be slam against your ability or honesty, its just my cautious nature. thanks

As quoted in the original ad :



"I will need full payment up front from each buyer to get the parts produced."

[y0rlik]

Jeager, he does have a working prototype, and as mentioned, there are a number of photos in the initial thread of this prototype. I also think he's working on a video.

Kurbelgehause, make sure my order reflects the fact that I have requested (and paid for) a 17.25" barrel liner. This is a change from my initial request for a 21" liner. On the group buy spreadsheet, you still have me down for a 21" liner.

[catmguy445]

I'm still in for one metric conversion unit and an extra mag conversion. Will it be a problem if I send you the payment after the first of August? Also, do you need the payment for the magazine conversion sent with the payment for the .22 kit, or should we sent payment for magazine conversion when you tell us to send the magazine bodies? Thanks.

[raexcct2]

kurbelgehause,

Payment sent via cashiers check from my bank for one metric kit plus 2 extra magazines with insurance added. You should get it by Saturday.

Sorry for the delay, been kind of busy here.

Please reflect in your spreadsheet that I want the standard 21 inch barrel length. Now I have to save for an inch conversion kit.:D

[kurbelgehause]

13 payments in so far. I won't be able to post any payment updates until the 12th of August. I'll be out of town.

Thanks!

[Sancho44]

PMO in the mail today for 1ea. 21" metric liner and 2 mags.

Just realized this AM this GB had reached threshold.. Sorry.

[1006587]

Haven't paid much attention to this, been too busy. Looks like it is a go. It will be a week or two before things settle down. Please don't give away my slot, payment is on the way.

[troubleticket]

Where is the order form with the address to send payment??????



????Want to send payment??????


????send payment???

[raexcct2]

Payment link is on page 1, post #1 of this thread.

Here is the link for the order form with address and instructions.

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35902734/ORDER%20SHEET.pdf

[Cav1]

I just stumbled across this over the weekend and didn't know about it. Is it too late to get in on one of these kits? I'm ready, willing and able to send the MO out tomorrow if so.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by Cav1
I just stumbled across this over the weekend and didn't know about it. Is it too late to get in on one of these kits? I'm ready, willing and able to send the MO out tomorrow if so.

It's not too late. I will make a few kits over the run of 70. If you want a kit, complete the order form and mail it in along with a USPS money order.

Thanks!

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by kurbelgehause
13 payments in so far. I won't be able to post any payment updates until the 12th of August. I'll be out of town.

Thanks!

Okay, I'm back a little early. I will go to the post office tomorrow and collect the mail and see where we are.

[kurbelgehause]

Here's a link showing the payment status of group buy participants:

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/35902734/22%20kit%20Buyer%27s%20List.pdf

So far, I've received payments for 25 kits.

[raexcct2]

kurbelgehause,

Your spreadsheet does not show a payment received from me.

You better check your mail again as you should have received a cashier's check from USAA from Hector Rivera Jr.

I did not include my FAL FILES user id on the cashiers check request online as there wasn't enough room for it.

The cashiers check request was submitted online on 28 July so you should have received the check by 30 July.

Hector

[Cav1]

Thank you. The MO's in the mail.

[IRONWORKER]

PM sent

[kurbelgehause]

Group Buy spreadsheet updated to 12 AUG 2011.
Guys, this buy is in your hands now. I've taken it as far as I can. 28 kits paid for so far.


:beer:

[kurbelgehause]

3 more payments came in today. 31 kits total.

[stimpsonjcat]

Kurb,

If this build out stalls due to idiots not realizing the worth of these. do not just give up. Right now I am in this just for the parts I want, but I would buy a few more as investments before I would let this die.

Likely others feel the same way.

So if you end up short at the end and are getting sick of waiting on folks that happily SAID they'd buy, I will gladly buy a few of their kits.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by stimpsonjcat
Kurb,

If this build out stalls due to idiots not realizing the worth of these. do not just give up. Right now I am in this just for the parts I want, but I would buy a few more as investments before I would let this die.

Likely others feel the same way.

So if you end up short at the end and are getting sick of waiting on folks that happily SAID they'd buy, I will gladly buy a few of their kits.

If too many people bail on this to hit the number, I'm open to suggestions. I have read comments made by members on the group buy ratio of committing to buy compared to actually shelling out money and it wasn't very favorable. I sent out PMs to all the members I hadn't received payment from yet (about 36 members) and received a few responses. I'll give it another week or so and we'll see.

[Grinder]

I too would pick up the tab for a few more as Stimpsonjcat noted
I just built a Williams for one and don't want to see this end either
This is the reason I rarely sell on forums anymore- people's word is not what it used to be

[LAFAL]

Send Guido and his associates to "remind" them........:D

[stimpsonjcat]

I think giving folks at leas a month to raise funds is reasonable as we did not know when the 'go' date would be.

I am not in a rush, but I am also not willing to let this die.

If i ever sell an extra kit here, it will be pricey!

[raexcct2]

kurbelgehause,

Just got word back from my bank USAA that the check was returned to my address not theirs so I will have to contact the wife to find it.

Hopefully, she'll find it and mail it back to you by Tuesday at the latest.

[BIG 54R]

This is the 1st I have seen of this thread as I don't come to the site much anymore but if other's bail on their responsibility I would very much like to get in on at least 1 of these kits.

I haven't read the entire thread yet so I will go back to page 1 and start reading, but I really need/want a 22conversion kit for my Imbel on a century reciever (Metric).

If all of the original 70 kits do get bought can I still get in on this?
If the original 70 do not get bought I want 1 for sure.

Also I have looked for the link with photos but did not see them in the OP...can someone post a link to the pics etc.?

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by raexcct2
kurbelgehause,

Just got word back from my bank USAA that the check was returned to my address not theirs so I will have to contact the wife to find it.

Hopefully, she'll find it and mail it back to you by Tuesday at the latest.

No worries.

[kurbelgehause]

Dakota FAL,

I got your PM but cannot reply to it. I can supply you a kit in the configuration you need.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by stimpsonjcat
I think giving folks at leas a month to raise funds is reasonable as we did not know when the 'go' date would be.

I am not in a rush, but I am also not willing to let this die.

If i ever sell an extra kit here, it will be pricey!

Yup, it will take however long it takes. I will not get too wrapped around the axle about it.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by BIG 54R
This is the 1st I have seen of this thread as I don't come to the site much anymore but if other's bail on their responsibility I would very much like to get in on at least 1 of these kits.

I haven't read the entire thread yet so I will go back to page 1 and start reading, but I really need/want a 22conversion kit for my Imbel on a century reciever (Metric).

If all of the original 70 kits do get bought can I still get in on this?
If the original 70 do not get bought I want 1 for sure.

Also I have looked for the link with photos but did not see them in the OP...can someone post a link to the pics etc.?

PM sent. To anyone interested in a kit, the group buy is not capped at 70, there will be some additional kits available.

Here's the link with photos:

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=304586&pagenumber=1

[Hot Diggity]

I think the best we can do is keep this thread current. Keep passing the word that folks need to get their payments in, and that the group buy is not closed.

I'll join the multi-kit club if necessary to keep this group buy alive. I'm just glad I stumbled across it when I did. I've got a feeling that this is one of those deals that guys will be kicking themselves for missing out on.

HD

[kwthor]

I'm still in. Just need to get funds together. Some other stuff (life) has jumped to the top of the priority list.

[kurbelgehause]

Originally posted by kwthor
I'm still in. Just need to get funds together. Some other stuff (life) has jumped to the top of the priority list.


Good luck getting everything sorted out.

[raexcct2]

kurbelgehause,

I will have to send another cashiers check as USAA cancelled the check I sent you when it was not signed for and returned.

Expect payment this week.