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FAL freek
October 23, 2010, 18:14
Seems their new state of the art sub got snagged real good. Maybe too many rum rations. :rofl:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39793497/ns/world_news-europe

L Haney
October 23, 2010, 18:21
Maybe testing the wheels on the bottom. Ain't you ever had a flat and needed a tow? :uhoh:

SWOHFAL
October 23, 2010, 18:24
No aircraft carriers, either. Sandy Woodward is saying that Argentina could waltz right into the Falklands w/o them.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/southamerica/falklandislands/8082122/Navy-cuts-would-lead-to-Argentina-taking-Falklands-without-shot-fired.html

martin35
October 23, 2010, 21:20
Routine catches many a sailor unaware. During my era of service in the 50' we had to grimace a chuckle over the grounding of the Battleship USS Missouri for 2 weeks on a sand bar in Chesapeake Bay,,, waiting for a high tide and half a dozen tugs to pull her free, her Captain lost his ship and several hundred places on the promotion lists.

Ssarge
October 23, 2010, 21:36
They grounded the Lexington (CVT16) in Pensacola Pass one time. Got the captain releived and an early retirement. When I was in Germany the soviets grounded a diesel sub inside Sweden's territoral waters. Big stink over that one!

Heat
October 23, 2010, 21:40
Ive seen some amazing videos of ship collisions and accidents and am dumfounded that a crew could screw up so easily..geez, stay alert~

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FAL freek
October 23, 2010, 21:45
Originally posted by Ssarge
When I was in Germany the soviets grounded a diesel sub inside Sweden's territoral waters. Big stink over that one! When I went to Sweden they used to somewhat brag that the Soviets would take their subs into Swedish waters because the Swedes would lob live depth charges at them to give their sub captains experience.

Ssarge
October 24, 2010, 01:56
The soviets even had one that crawled along the bottom like a tank that the Swedes had taken photos of the track marks it left along the bottom. The one that was aground was big news on German radio and TV at the time.
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?128144-Soviet-submarine-ran-aground-Swedish-territorial-water-1981

MAINER
October 24, 2010, 18:52
We were replaced on a fire support mission to go have a look at the USS Frank Knox that had run aground on a reef in the South China Sea 200miles from Hong Kong.

She was sitting high in the bow and firmly jammed up on the reef. Of course she was promptly labled as "Knox on the Rocks".

We remained oin the area for several days and watched the unloading of ammo, fuel, food stores, supplies, and all ship's crew except the salvage group. When we saw the Radar consoles going we knew the ship was in deep doo doo. They were even removing the mattress's at one point.

They pumped the lower decks full of foam, finally freed her from the reef and towed her to Yokosuka Navy Base. Guess how much fun that foam was to remove. :tongue:

Scuttlebutt has it that a 1st Class Quartermaster made a navigation error in the ship's log and compounded it by cutting the page from the log. He was court-marshaled for this, but the Capt'n was the one who paid by losing his command and career.

http://www.history.navy.mil/photos/sh-usn/usnsh-f/dd742-l.htm

Raspeguy
October 24, 2010, 19:36
It's not only the British or Russians. Little over 5 years ago the USS San Francisco hit an underwater mountain and came almost to a stop. Fortunately they had enough air to blow and rose with the bow signifcantly down. The bow was crushed to the tune of probably over $100 million dollars. The navigation crew was found lacking in their required skills a year before the accident.

Before that the USS Greeneville, a state of the art attack sub, rammed a Japanese tourist ship from underneath as it was surfacing. How do you miss a steel ship overhead?

There have been a number of US submarines that in peacetime have had collisions, run aground, got snagged, or scraped bottom. You can only guess at the close calls.

alphadog58
October 26, 2010, 15:03
When I worked at Electric Boat we had a 688 boat come into drydock real unexpected like. As a carpenter we were the first trade into the pumped out drydock after the Radcon techs. Went in with a crew to check the side haul blocks around the boat. Saw significant damage to the underside of the bow around the ballast tank grates. Also saw chunks of rubber hull covering in the grates. Heard later that the rubber hull covering was Russian....
Larry

FAL freek
October 26, 2010, 21:06
Originally posted by alphadog58
Also saw chunks of rubber hull covering in the grates. Heard later that the rubber hull covering was Russian....
Larry Soviets used to complain all the time that American subs would get REAL (like dangerously) close to their subs from behind to pick up and record their propeller signature. Supposedly the navy's so good they can figure out which sub their tracking just by listening to their screws turn. Wouldn't at all doubt there was a good bit of taunting also with the U.S. subs following the Soviet subs so close.

FAL freek
October 26, 2010, 21:11
All these sub collision stories reminded me about the French and British subs colliding last year.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7892294.stm