King, North Carolina-State of Emergency

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[martin35]

I don't believe there is any legal way to enter a residence and confiscate a owners weapons without a warrant declaring demonstrated incompetence. Clearly government often over steps,,, whose gonna stop them?
In my state we can carry firearms at any time in our vehicles as our vehicle is a extension of our domicile.
During any emergency unorganized armed groups brandishing weapons would reasonably be considered a potential threat in my opinion.
I personally would present some difficulty to confiscation in almost any case.
Dangerous weather can make people panic including those who govern.
During the last hurricane here my wife says my rocking chair momentum seemed a little bit agitated,,,, everybody ought to have a rockin' chair to sort stuff out ..

[Survey Punk]

This turd is old news. For a more recent incarnation, of the same shit, see Grass Roots North Carolina, thanks to Gov Perdue and Hurricane Earl:



919-664-8565, www.grnc.org, GRNC Alert Hotline: (919) 562-4137

GRNC Alert 09-01-10:

Gov. Perdue's Order Suspends Rights of NC Gun Owners

HIS NAME IS EARL AND YOUR RIGHTS ARE NIL

With the approach of Hurricane Earl, the North Carolina state of
emergency statute (N.C. Gen. Stat. 14-288.7) has once again reared its
ugly head. Gov. Perdue has declared a state of emergency for the
entire state of North Carolina. As a result it is a Class 1
misdemeanor "for any person to transport or possess off his own
premises any dangerous weapon or substance." There is no exception for
recreational shooting. There is no exception for hunting. There is no
exception for having a concealed carry permit. The prohibition applies
to all possession -- open carry, concealed carry and transportation in
a vehicle.

GUESS WHAT SATURDAY IS!

Anybody? That's right... Dove season opens Saturday at noon. Unless
Earl is well past NC and the SoE has been lifted (not likely), every
hunter who doesn't live in the dove field is a criminal.

Following the state of emergency declared this winter in King, GRNC
attempted legislation to solve this problem. Now GRNC is part of the
lawsuit filed against the state of N.C. on this very issue. Attorney
Alan Gura - who won the Heller and McDonald decisions affirming the
Second Amendment as an individual right and overturning the gun bans
in DC and Chicago - helms this case.

And:



919-664-8565, www.grnc.org, GRNC Alert Hotline: (919) 562-4137

GRNC Alert 09-02-10:

NORTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR LIES ABOUT STATE GUN BAN

State of emergency order makes criminals of concealed handgun
permit-holders, sport shooters and hunters...

"Even if EO 62 were worded...to expressly permit the possession of
firearms, the governor has no constitutional or statutory authority to
suspend the effect or enforcement of a valid NC criminal law."

The State of Emergency order issued by Governor Beverly Perdue in
response to Hurricane Earl makes carrying a firearm outside one's home
or place of business a Class I misdemeanor. Beyond law enforcement and
the military there are no exceptions: Not for hunters, sport shooters
or concealed handgun permit-holders.

Worse, with the legislature out of session, there is no immediate way
to address the crisis. As NC gun owners are aware, GRNC is among
plaintiffs on a lawsuit against the State of Emergency law, arguing
that it violates the Second Amendment, but legal redress is months, if
not years away.

PERDUE'S LIE

Gov. Perdue's office has been issuing various denials to input about
the gun ban implications of the SoE, but the most blatant misstatement
is this:

"Thank you for contacting the Office of the Governor. After checking
with legal counsel, we are pleased to inform you that THE CURRENT
STATE OF EMERGENCY WAS WRITTEN IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE RIGHTS OF NC GUN
OWNERS ARE NOT INFRINGED UPON. . However, local
authorities still have the authority to establish states of emergency
within their jurisdictions that may impact your right to carry
weapons."

Office of the Governor Bev Perdue

20301 Mail Service Center

Raleigh, NC 27699

1-800-662-7952 (for NC residents only)

919-733-4240

919-733-2120 (fax)

governor.office@nc.gov

http://www.governor.state.nc.us/

THE TRUTH

From GRNC legal counsel Ed Green:

"On Sept. 1, 2010, Governor Perdue issued Executive Order No. 62
declaring "that a state of emergency exists in the State due to the
approach of Hurricane Earl." Nothing in EO 62 mentions gun owners or
the possession of guns in any way. Nothing in EO 62 purports to
suspend the operation of any NC law.

"NCGS § 14-288.7 clearly and unambiguously forbids the possession of
any firearm off one's premises during any declared State of Emergency,
with exceptions only for law enforcement and military in the course of
their duties. Under NC law, whenever a State of Emergency is declared,
no citizen may possess any gun outside of their home.

"Even if EO 62 were worded (or amended) to expressly permit the
possession of firearms, the governor has no constitutional or
statutory authority to suspend the effect or enforcement of a valid NC
criminal law. Once she declared a State of Emergency, Gov. Perdue
legally disarmed all NC civilians outside their own homes, including
the thousands of otherwise legally licensed hunters expected to take
to the fields for the opening of Dove season at noon Saturday."

HUGH HOLLIMAN'S GUN BAN

Most responsible for the debacle is NC House Majority Leader HUGH
HOLLIMAN (D-Davidson, GRNC 0-star), who in his leadership role denied
committee hearings to not just one, but TWO pieces of GRNC-supported
legislation that would have prevented it.

Interestingly, Holliman faces a tight race against Republican
challenger RAYNE BROWN, who returned GRNC's "Remember in November"
candidate survey with a perfect score, earning GRNC's highest 4-star
(****) evaluation.

For more details and background, go to:
http://exm.nr/NCSuspendsGunRights

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Originally posted by martin35
I don't believe there is any legal way to enter a residence and confiscate a owners weapons without a warrant declaring demonstrated incompetence. Clearly government often over steps,,, whose gonna stop them?
In my state we can carry firearms at any time in our vehicles as our vehicle is a extension of our domicile.
During any emergency unorganized armed groups brandishing weapons would reasonably be considered a potential threat in my opinion.
I personally would present some difficulty to confiscation in almost any case.
Dangerous weather can make people panic including those who govern.
During the last hurricane here my wife says my rocking chair momentum seemed a little bit agitated,,,, everybody ought to have a rockin' chair to sort stuff out ..

I read this as I sit in my lazyboy rocking recliner..your killin me

[Deltaten]

Gee! Last year or so, PA enacted just the opposite. If/when a state of emergency is officially announced/declared; ALL current LTCF holders are exempt from ANY restrictions on carrying loaded long arms in public..IF I read it right; but close enuff.
GRanted, it was a sop to gun owners and LTCF holders, as there was another segment of the bill that made tracks in the opposite direction..i don't recall 'zackly what right now.
Still, to have the legislature recognize and approve of armed citizens in public is a great step forward. Before any of you "I don't need no steenkin' .gov't permit" types get yer panties in a wad, you must realize that stories like Katrina and this latest from NC are the norm in civil disturbance/states of emergency.
PA has finally gotten one right. Wanna bitch..go get a permit. Wanna bitch about needing a permit... please do it elsewhere :D

[martin35]

Side arms (pistols) were outlawed during the Union Army occupation of Texas except for lawmen.
Almost every male in Texas ignored that law and covert access was the norm.
Carrying a rifle or shotgun has no restriction except in certain restricted vicinities and posted properties, the same restriction applies to CCW pistols.
Certain nuances in fire arms laws are changed by the state legislature.
A peace officer in the performance of his duties can disarm any person any time for carrying a weapon in a reckless manner and endangering public safety, including another Peace officer.
Unless by unanimous acquiescence Texas would not be a safe bet for disarming ,,,, any confiscators would be thinned out.

[shlomo]

Originally posted by martin35
Side arms (pistols) were outlawed during the Union Army occupation of Texas except for lawmen.

This is from personal recollection, I'm guessin'.

:wink:

[flopshot]

Originally posted by Deltaten
Before any of you "I don't need no steenkin' .gov't permit" types get yer panties in a wad, you must realize that stories like Katrina and this latest from NC are the norm in civil disturbance/states of emergency.


the problem is that the "state of emergency was out of fiscal concern only.
there was no emergency. N.C. is a wide state. i didn't even see a cloud.

[martin35]

This is from personal recollection, I'm guessin'. Second hand hearsay to be infallibly precise.

[Survey Punk]

Originally posted by flopshot


the problem is that the "state of emergency was out of fiscal concern only.
there was no emergency. N.C. is a wide state. i didn't even see a cloud.

I'm 50mi from Ocracoke, airline, and a smidge farther to Hatteras. Had 1/4" of rain and almost no wind. "A fart in a whirlwind" puts it aptly.
I never heard Bev say the emergency is over, only that we had "dodged a bullet"! :rolleyes:

A novel concept, Beverly! :devil:

JB

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Dang the things you guys have to put up with out there.
Here in the mountains ya'd get tarred and feathered if ya even thought bout limit'n folks SACRED fire arms rights. No gov in Her / His right mind would try that shit here. We might be cash poor , but we rich in freedom.

[martin35]

We might be cash poor , but we rich in freedom. I got freedom I havn't used in two years.

[cpd109]

Didn't know Bev's party affiliation until I looked it up- then gun banning made sense for her. Any guesses as to what I found?

chirp chirp.......chirp chirp

Dimmicrap! Of course. More testing of the water?