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one hand clapping
August 30, 2010, 09:39
Heads up , I've heard about this before but now the Chi coms are being imported en mass Under the EB5 visa any chinnese investor with 1 million or $500,000,.00 depending on what they invest in can come with family , get tax abatements and citizenship in 5 years. I bet that a certain cadre of the commie army are comming and setting up shop with better tax rules than for us [ using all those dollars they have stored up.. The EB5 visa is also why all the fast food / convenience stores are mostly mosluim. They pay no taxes for five years and then "sell" the store to a fresh relative and the five year no tax starts all over again. How can americans compete with these special groups?? Why bring people here to work when we don't have jobs for our own people? They only have to provide FIVE or ten jobs but the employees don't even have to be american citizens to get the benifits.
This is being done by our "leaders" with our $$$ and they are activly recrutting them!!!

The CHINNEESE GENERALS MUST BE LAUGHING SO HARD THEIR PISS'N THEMSELVES.

Remember the gift the Greeks left TROY folks ,
I see a big wooden horse.

One hand clapping
Still look'n for a good man
will stand for freedom

hagar
August 30, 2010, 10:34
When we owe the rest of the world more than 10 years of gross national income, this is the kind of backroom deals that are made. I bet there are many more we never even hear off. Fact of life.

thunderchicken
August 30, 2010, 11:33
I've never had any problem with smart, wealthy, or beautiful immigrants.

molotov
August 30, 2010, 14:17
The EB5 visa is also why all the fast food / convenience stores are mostly mosluim. They pay no taxes for five years and then "sell" the store to a fresh relative and the five year no tax starts all over again.

Yeah, hear that. I believe many of them run drugs through them as well. Convenience store traffic attracts no attention. Use those back home connections. Almost certain that crack or opiates are being sold out of a gas station a few blocks from here, straight across from the cop shop actually.

martin35
August 30, 2010, 16:09
AlGore got one thing right,,,, "there is no convening authority",,,, we just think there is,,,, supposed to be.

leper
August 31, 2010, 08:50
Do you have a source for Moslems not paying Taxes for 5 years?

martin35
August 31, 2010, 10:37
The City of New York is the reference for the non payment of taxes at the rate of 18% per month penalty according to Fox News, at that rate confiscation must be the objective,,, taxation is better than owning oil wells.
This fiasco might be a Byzantine scam to build value into a imaginary project for religious and financial profit. The Iman gets to lie wounded in the heart while the building owner gets to laugh all the way to the bank if things break Arabic. Playin' infidels is a old trick.

V guy
August 31, 2010, 11:44
The Indian Hindus already control most of the small Motels around the country already. Same deal
The Hindus are also branching into Dunkin Donuts. Micky D's and Burger King not so available yet. Indian and Pakistani Dr's are all over the place.
Most of the above are businessmen and become conservatives.

The Muslims and Chinese who come here, end up in the little markets, gouging blacks from the ghettos. The Chinese are not commies, once here.

The mulsims have problems with women due to their religion's dogma---are sexually repressed--and they are the ones who will end up supporting terrorism here.

one hand clapping
August 31, 2010, 16:54
To be clear I welcome hard working folks ffrom abroad if they are playing by the rules , however I was speaking of the largwe numbers of suddenly wealthy chineese showing up and alot being active duty Chi com military. This seems like a back door where you can pay to place units into amerika. I respect those who come to make their fortune. I'm just a child of the cold war I guess and do NOT trust the Chi Comms . I am familiar with their 3000 year old military stratagy. One drop at a time, and a stone yeilds.

OHC

brownknees
August 31, 2010, 17:20
The cold war is done. Now I have a couple of friends who were Spetsnaz. Don't fret over it today is a whole Brave New World. Just don't play paintball with the fuggers.:cry:

the gman
September 01, 2010, 11:19
Tin foil is a little too tight on some folks it seems......:D

Let's take this in some form of order:

EB5 Investor Program has been around for almost 2 decades. Big deal. $500K investment in certain approved industries & areas with 10 jobs created. Jobs that have to have income tax & SS paid on them that these folks then go out & buy other stuff with which increases the tax base. So there is a deferred tax advantage to it? Fuckin' A right there should be as you name me ONE major company or sports team that proposes a move to a new town or building or sticks up a new stadium that DOESN'T get a fugging huge tax break?? Nah, didn't think anyone could. So why is the small investor who creates jobs not entitled to get the same kind of breaks?

Anyone who has ever started their own business knows that it can be a PITA to do so & you often get swamped under all the regs you have to follow. So some folks with a few bucks get to come here & create jobs & get a green card out of it, so what? It's better than folks coming over the Mexican border with nothing or with criminal intent on their minds.

http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac89243c6a7543f6d1a/?vgnextoid=cf54a6c515083210VgnVCM100000082ca60aRCR D&vgnextchannel=cf54a6c515083210VgnVCM100000082ca60a RCRD

There is an annual cap of 10,000 folks to include the dependents of the investors. Read some facts instead of shit from the web, eh?

Chinese Army officers with intent to do WHAT?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Flee the commie system & live like a king here in (somewhat) free America? Ya, that's right, they have seen 60 years of Commie rule & they are just dying to live under that here.:rolleyes: Please. No, that's right, they are the advance guard of the invasion force, ready to take over America at the drop of the dear departed Chairman Mao's hat....:rolleyes: :rolleyes: I mean really? Have you listened to yourself lately?

Japan ALREADY conquered this country in the '80's, buying up huge swathes of the high end RE & the same fears were expressed about that. Go see if Hawaii is still there or did the Japanese export it to Japan or otherwise change it??

The Chinese don't want this COUNTRY, they want it's wealth & we are giving them that freely & on a daily basis at Wal Mart, Harbor Freight, Amazon, Ebay & anywhere else we can. What the hell do you think the Chinese could do with the US? Nothing except destroy the global economy.

China IS playing the long game; they are massively investing in raw materials in Africa, getting going with new markets in India, the Middle East & South America as these are the markets of tomorrow. The USA is already conquered as far as they are concerned.

Know why Asians, Indians, Pakistanis & other immigrants do so well in the US? Firstly they have an incredible work ethic that means that they will have stores open when lazy Americans won't. They'll work hours that lazy Americans won't. They'll club all their savings together to take risks as a family that lazy Americans won't because they believe in a better life & future for themselves. Their communities will lend money to each other outside of traditional financing so they can all make money but Americans won't. Basically, immigrants don't take what America has to offer lightly nor for granted. Instead of bitching about what is wrong with the place, they get on & make something of it & themselves. They have strong families & communities, maybe it's us who need to learn something from them??:eek: :eek:

Reading some of you folk's rant is like watching a re-run of '12 Angry men' & seeing the same petty shite spewed as Lee J Cobb & Ed Begly's characters do. Sad. Jealousy is such a terrible thing & bigotry, intolerance & ignorance are even worse.

Loosen up that tin foil a little, it's starting to cut off the oxygen supply to the brain.....:uhoh: :tongue: :eek: :eek:

justashooter
September 02, 2010, 18:17
it is kinda funny to see very proud wealthy indians selling donuts. most of the time they make the women do it, because the men can't stand the humiliation. any price to get to America these people are willing to pay, even leaving comfortable and prosperous arrangements in india to sell donutz in USA.

martin35
September 04, 2010, 07:34
Jealousy is such a terrible thing & bigotry, intolerance & ignorance are even worse.
Jealousy, bigotry, intolerance, ignorance, lust and the constant need for life sustaining nourishment are all human conditions every man must deal with, they are part of our nature as we are created, Americans have one code to deal with the human condition and others have their own proprietary codes unique to their perceived needs.
In my opinion we were given those traits for judicious use in maintaining our species, without them to some degree we would not exist in our present state.
I offer this arguable opinion because I have nothing better to do and I can't stand not to be well thought of,, both also a human failings if carried to extremes.