Blaming Bush

[Mooch357]

I find it hilarious when someone at the NY Times or some other self-help group claims hysterically that "the Republicans blocked" this Administration and this Congress from saving the economy.
In the period of time between the oaths of Al Franken and Scott Brown, the Democrat Party has had almost absolute control of the government.
The Blame-Bush-And-The-GOP Dog don't hunt no more.

[Munster30]

Since 2008, I believe, and before that they blocked everything that they could.
See the wonderful job they've done since The Anointed Won rode in on the unicorn of Hopey and Changey.
Anybody got a recipe for grilled unicorn?

[Retired Bum]

If the GOP is victorious in the coming November election and manages to take either the House or the Senate, then the DemonRats will be howling to the heavens about legislative gridlock. If both houses should become GOP property, then Obama is going to be issuing vetoes. Sounds like it could get very interesting next year on Capitol Hill....

And so it goes.


The Retired One

[D P Six]

The Bush victory gave the Republican Party the power they had been seeking for decades. And they put it to use: war, destructive spending, the further concentration of Washington's awsome power, a Constitution killing Patriot Act and the alienation of their political base which resulted in the election of you know who. If the bottom rung finds itself on top in the coming election, the Republican's would do well to do things very different this time. I'm not optimistic

[bykerhd]

Did you notice that the MSM is playing up the 5 year Hurricane Katrina anniversary ?

The coverage is pretty much a rehash of the "Blame Bush" mantra plus lots of footage of how little has been rebuilt since the hurricane in some areas.
Ray Nagin , Kathleen Blanco and the Landrieus pretty much get a pass.
And no mention of the corruption that funnelled all those Federal funds pre and post ? Katrina for dike repairs off in to other pockets.

Now Obummer vows to "stand with" New Orleans. No mention on what he has done over the last year+ while he has held the reigns of power and the nation's financial purse strings.:uhoh:
The "Disaster in the Gulf" and Obummer's pathetic handling of that situation are now officially off the front page. No mention of the ecological and financial disaster the Obummer administration's application of "Big Government" bureaucratic solutions and the moratorium on drilling.

I really hope nobody is dumb enough to buy in to all the crap the MSM is peddling.

[FAL freek]

Originally posted by D P Six
The Bush victory gave the Republican Party the power they had been seeking for decades. And they put it to use: war, destructive spending, the further concentration of Washington's awsome power, a Constitution killing Patriot Act and the alienation of their political base which resulted in the election of you know who. If the bottom rung finds itself on top in the coming election, the Republican's would do well to do things very different this time. I'm not optimistic And things would have been better under Al Bore :rolleyes:

BTW I'm from Tennessee.

[richardrose67]

I rode out Katrina in Biloxi, the worst of the storm hit Mississippi not New Orleans. They did not flood until 2 days after the storm when the levee broke. Bay ST.Louis, Longbeach, Gulf Port, Biloxi and that area took a hit of a 42 foot storm serge 25,ooo homes swept away or heavily damaged in a few hours. In some areas the serge went in several miles. If New Orleans had been hit by the serge there would't be a New Orleans. It makes me mad to see all the fuss over a city with its hands out 5 years later. All they want is more money. This area of the coast is rebuilt and back to work, we did it ourselves with a lot of help from good people from all over this country. NEW ORLEANS NEEDS TO HELP THEMSELVES and GET OVER IT.

[Deltaten]

Well Richard.. I hate to say it; but it must be said....

NO *is* a "Chocolate City", with all the attributes of a welfare haven. It is a sociological mind-set; not a genetic pigmentation problem.
I was aghast when Ray Nagin made that particular speech. As King of the "Gimmes" , he expressed it so well !
I'm sure there were/are good, hard-working folks that stood firm in NO; but their numbers pale in comparison to the self-sufficient people of Mississippi and other spots that took the hit during Katrina.

Seems it's the "Git 'er done!" vs the "gimme" crowd. The gimmes tend to gather in clumps like flotsam in a storm; usually finding others of the same stripeand gravitating to center-cities everywhere. I guess it's hard to be fiercely independent when yer standing around waiting for .gov checks to come out,

Old story.. sheeple will be sheeple. They flock together and wait for the shepherd to care for them.

Best,
Paul

[one hand clapping]

+ 100 on what D-10 said. I had to live in DC for a year while recouperating at walter reed. After I could move around, I spent alot of time visiting capital hill and various fed agencys. I was apalled by the rude / "What you do'n here?" I received from the all black federal "door keepers" not the guards ,they were cool, I'm talk'n the folks getting payed to "help us" [ I am NOT rasist, I would go out with a man of ANY color IF he is squared away]. I found 300lb secrateries that got payed way more than I did who did nothing but stonewall and act put out if you made a request. They can't be fired cause of the "union" so we get to pay top $ for lazy wasterals. The further up the food chain ya go the more waste and even less carring if you're not wearing the right dress /suit. I've sat in my senators office while K street dandies parade in and out with prewritten "law" they are providing for their intrests.
Until those who refuse to provide for themselves are cut off and made to deal we will continue to slide down hill, Of course if ya cut off the freebees the first wave will just try to take it from those who do work and HAVE EARNED WHAT THEY HAVE. That fear is what keeps the cowards and cheats that meet at our capital handing out our funds to any group who threatens them.

One Hand Clapping
Looking for a good man
will stand for freedom

[martin35]

If the critics here of the Patriot Act can point out areas of that act that put our country in greater jeopardy I would appreciate a definitive explanation instead of George "did it" and I have a farther interest in hearing of any deprivations personally experienced there from.
I lived through WWII when many rights were held in abeyance til wars end.
Lincoln withheld the writ of habeas corpus,,, we sure as hell got it back with a vengeance,,, ask AlQeada.
As the fat lady said "elucidate me".

[Story]

Why We Suddenly Miss Bush

Various polls report that George W. Bush in some states is now better liked than President Obama. Even some liberal pundits call for Bush, the now long-missed moderate, to draw on his recognized tolerance and weigh in on the Ground Zero mosque or the Arizona anti-immigration legislation. Apparently the erstwhile divider is now the healer that the healer Obama is not.

As President Obama’s polls dip, as Congress is widely disdained, and as the economy slumps, suddenly George Bush is missed. Why so? Let me list ten likely reasons.

http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishanson/bush-come-back-bush/?singlepage=true

[308bolt]

I don't miss Bush at all.
Not GW and certainly not his Daddy.
Nor do I miss president Clinton or her husband.
I kind'a miss Reagan but having owned a business through his administration and lived through his economic plan, really not so much.
Just his fireside chats.
I guess a lot of democrats must really miss him seeing as they voted Bonzo into office.

[ggiilliiee]

funny thing about polls .....only the living get to vote ...ask the guys in arlington how they feel ...or the 130k dead civies ..and children ...
they should pile up all the dead troops and babies in his yard ....then bash his fukin brains in with a claw hammer ....HYPOTHETICALY SPEAKING .......of course ... ..other than that we could ALMOST use him for a fence post out here ...may he die ...soon ..
anyone who would shake hands with someone (poor),,and then WIPE it off on someone elses shirt ...is a freeak of nature and should be dispatched ...hypothetically of course .....

[308bolt]

Originally posted by ggiilliiee
funny thing about polls .....only the living get to vote ...

I guess you've never been to Chicago.

[martin35]

Bush's goosey frat boy image seemed more like the American personna than Obama's "you ho's gonna have my babies schemes."

[juanni]

Originally posted by martin35
Bush's goosey frat boy image seemed more like the American personna than Obama's "you gonna have my babies schemes ho's."

Well that is one of the few differences between them.

Other than that it is the usual welfare, warfare, always bigger spending, continuing bailouts and "I gotta plan". :uhoh:

It is like Bush never left. :p



.............juanni

[brunop]

I tend to like the local republicans. I tend to hate the national 'R's almost as much as the Dems.

So far, I'm with DP:

1) Bush promised that there would be no deficit spending if he were to be elected

2) Bush promised that we would be more humble, less nation-building, more concerned for what happened here at home


Uh, anyone??!! Buehler??

Bush at least presided over, and may have been complicit in the wars and the price of oil and the deficits and blah, blah, blah.

No, FAL Freek, it would have been worse under Al Gore. But not by much.

Peace.

[Mooch357]

Hey, you can say "Meet the new Boss..." all you want but I still maintain THIS current President slammed the cyclic forward into the mountain.
We have not seen a Ruler like this.

[TheJokker]

Originally posted by brunop
I tend to like the local republicans. I tend to hate the national 'R's almost as much as the Dems.

So far, I'm with DP:

1) Bush promised that there would be no deficit spending if he were to be elected

2) Bush promised that we would be more humble, less nation-building, more concerned for what happened here at home


Uh, anyone??!! Buehler??

Bush at least presided over, and may have been complicit in the wars and the price of oil and the deficits and blah, blah, blah.

No, FAL Freek, it would have been worse under Al Gore. But not by much.

Peace.

uhhh... and on september 11 muslims crashed a plane into the twin towers and the pentagon and we were at war. plans change.

yes brunop gore would have been worse; much worse.

we heard the same rationalization about obama and things will be exactly the same. juanni is still repeating the same nonsense.

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/72404
Obama Added More to National Debt in First 19 Months Than All Presidents from Washington Through Reagan Combined, Says Gov’t Data

[Firestarter]

Originally posted by Mooch357
Hey, you can say "Meet the new Boss..." all you want but I still maintain THIS current President slammed the cyclic forward into the mountain.
We have not seen a Ruler like this.

He would like all of us to think of him as a Ruler. There is a big distinction between governing and ruling. Governing should mean that you uphold the will of the people. Ruling is the antithesis of that.

[308bolt]

Originally posted by juanni


Well that is one of the few differences between them.

Other than that it is the usual welfare, warfare, always bigger spending, continuing bailouts and "I gotta plan". :uhoh:

It is like Bush never left. :p



.............juanni

Obama is Bush's shadow.

[Mooch357]

When I called him a ruler, I know what I said.
His Chicago pal Valerie Jarret let the cat out of the bag in a pre-election interview: "during Barack's rule..."
That is how they see themselves.
Apparently their lavish parties have cost us 10 million so far. And when he takes the Bully Pulpit he is very much a Mussolini figure - not just the tilting-psychotic chin either but in his demonization of anyone voicing disagreement.
George W. Bush was a politician and a governor (literally).
Barack Hussein Obama is a potential dictator.
When the GOP roares back to life, they'll issues mountains of subpoenas. If, eventually, they so happen to find grounds for impeachment (and there seem to be plenty), do you really think he will actually leave office?
Oh, what dangerous times are these.
(to paraphrase Roger the Shrubber)

[juanni]

Originally posted by Mooch357
When I called him a ruler, I know what I said.
His Chicago pal Valerie Jarret let the cat out of the bag in a pre-election interview: "during Barack's rule..."
That is how they see themselves.
Apparently their lavish parties have cost us 10 million so far. And when he takes the Bully Pulpit he is very much a Mussolini figure - not just the tilting-psychotic chin either but in his demonization of anyone voicing disagreement.
George W. Bush was a politician and a governor (literally).
Barack Hussein Obama is a potential dictator.
When the GOP roares back to life, they'll issues mountains of subpoenas. If, eventually, they so happen to find grounds for impeachment (and there seem to be plenty), do you really think he will actually leave office?
Oh, what dangerous times are these.
(to paraphrase Roger the Shrubber)

Nonsense.
He is just another in a long line of carefully culled status quo candidates placed by the powerful into the position to continue the fraud and looting of the taxpayers.


.............juanni

[ggiilliiee]

all the gloom doom ..and all from people who havent even cleaned up their LA town yet .6 years later ...talk about welfare people ...so dam funny listening to this clap trap ...from folks who get the most GOVT aid to their state ...then bitch about it ...

Palin baby IQ ...

[martin35]

Cleaning up LA seems to be work the Mexicans won't do. Maybe it feels like home.
GW Bush was the electable face of the conservative conglomerate that existed in that time and place.

[martin35]

When the GOP roares back to life, they'll issues mountains of subpoenas. If, eventually, they so happen to find grounds for impeachment (and there seem to be plenty), do you really think he will actually leave office?

Things you and I don't like are not necessarily illegal.
Acting with total disregard for a losing political regime is not illegal, Democrats seem to handle disregard well while most Republicans shy away from being thought mean,,, hopefully Tea Party Conservatives will be more boisterous in that regard
There is the power for retribution for elected winners to exercise, be it deserved or not, winners seldom if ever do because there is always another election to be won or lost, and the games of today are played for the games sake not the nation's welfare, with the rare exception. As voters we only have a small part to play in the pre-games substitutions.
Leaving or not leaving office is not a option for the impeached. Proof of legal impeachment not used should carry all the penalties of impeachment for those withholding in my opinion it is the essence of malfeasance which can if proven be impeachable.