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gates
August 29, 2010, 14:42
http://www.economicrant.com/current-article.php

offshore44
August 29, 2010, 18:03
:rofl: I LIKE that...two cheeks on the same ass...and ain't it the truth!

carguym14
August 29, 2010, 19:13
Am I in before Jokker lectures us on the huge difference between the "two" partys????


Good article gates-especially the last two sentences.:sad:

I still don't see any way out.............

Eric Bryant
August 29, 2010, 20:35
Originally posted by carguym14
Am I in before Jokker lectures us on the huge difference between the "two" partys????

This isn't the thread for him - I would find it hard to believe that he is only half an ass.

Good article gates-especially the last two sentences.:sad:

I thought that the last four paragraphs were really good - especially the second-to-last (especially pertinent for those who get distracted by Controversy Of The Week).

2barearms
August 29, 2010, 21:08
Gates

While loaded with data this guy seems to be a metal salesman.
He may also be an anti Semite. The tricky part is in this paragraph
by a Guy with three first names:

This is what Paul Craig Roberts has to say: “The answer is that the Israel Lobby, the US military-security complex, and the “Christian” Zionists have succeeded in demonizing Iran. Every real expert knows that an Iranian nuclear weapon would have no function other than deterring an attack on Iran. Ever since the US lost its monopoly on nuclear weapons, after using them offensively and pointlessly against a defeated Japan, nuclear weapons have served no purpose other than deterrence.

He believes your Grandpa should have risked his life in hand to hand
combat to take the island of Japan. What an idiot, another apologist.
With dumbasses like this running our country in times of trouble you
better hope we never have to use nukyaler weapons as last resort.

gates
August 29, 2010, 21:14
I posted it to show the lack of difference in spending between the parties - his geo pol perspective is subjective and I dont care about that.

TheJokker
August 30, 2010, 06:51
like little children hiding in a dark closet to scare themselves...

if you over-generalize enough you can convince yourself that the republicans are just as bad as the democrats and we are all f&*ked. you can convince yourself that only the libertarians help america only the libertarians are unelectable so once again we are all f&*ked. it's a shame that otherwise intelligent people would prefer to sit around and complain while pissing on themselves in fear instead of finding solutions.

if you ignore an enemy who has declared war they will attack you.

if socialists gain power in the media, schools, and government they will destroy the economy.

if you support an unelectable political party "the other side" will control the agenda i.e. continue the socialist juggernaut.

simple enough for you?

shlomo
August 30, 2010, 07:48
Socialists who call themselves conservative Republicans are still socialists.

Simple enough for you?

one hand clapping
August 30, 2010, 08:49
A little history folks --

The communist revolution was financed by the rothchild concern. [ payed for the train that took lennin back into russia] It was an experiment on how to take control of a nation from the previous rulers. In the Russian case it was the czar and his family, at the same time the other cousin from germany is deposed by the "national socialists", in england the other cousin iis made obsolete by the depression and the blitz. who could any of the PEOPLE in those countries turn to for help?? --the banksters,
If you studdy how the banksters did it you will see they always get a group that they fund that have legitamite issues to do their dirty work, after their proxies get the ball rooling and bring down the current gov [ no matter where in the world] -THEN their people come in and take over by buying the new bunch/
you' ve seen it - called developement programs
Now its our turn,
don't take the bait
hold you fire until you can see the whites of their eyes, then shoot true and with malace.

God save the republic

One hand clapping
Still look'n for a good man
will stand for freedom

D P Six
August 30, 2010, 16:35
"two cheeks on the same ass..." Pat Buchanan refers to that as 'Two wings on the same bird of prey'.

Otis Treekiller
August 30, 2010, 16:41
Originally posted by shlomo
Socialists who call themselves conservative Republicans are still socialists.

Simple enough for you?

Even simple concepts seem to escape that dumbass.

TheJokker
August 30, 2010, 18:17
Originally posted by shlomo
Socialists who call themselves conservative Republicans are still socialists.

Simple enough for you?

exactly; anybody who was "ok" with obama becoming president because "there is no difference between the parties" is more or less a socialist. i am not an anti-socialist because i am a republican, i am a republican because i am an anti-socialist.

the democrat are socialists. many freely admit to being socialists. libertarians/federalists have been unelectable since the war of 1812. third parties never win. if you truly are dedicated to opposing socialism you can only do so from within the republican party (i.e. ron paul is a republican, the tea party functions primarily to reform the republican party from within rather than evolve into a third party).

if you can't commit to the republican party commit to the tea party instead. it's exactly the same to me. commit to keeping liberal socialists out of power until most of the liberal judges are gone. that is a reasonable and obtainable goal. when that happens real meaningful change becomes possible. it's the only way.

think not of how the country is going to shit, think of how to get the shit out of the country...

L Haney
August 30, 2010, 19:05
Originally posted by TheJokker


think not of how the country is going to shit, think of how to get the shit out of the country...

Oh, I have. Indeed I have. But I've misplaced my asses jawbone.

Eric Bryant
August 30, 2010, 20:38
Originally posted by TheJokker
i am not an anti-socialist because i am a republican, i am a republican because i am an anti-socialist.

Well, then - I guess that's a job well-done:

http://www.youngagain.org/images/presidentspending.PNG

Nice job you've done in creating real, lasting change.

TheJokker
August 31, 2010, 06:56
Originally posted by Eric Bryant


Well, then - I guess that's a job well-done:

http://www.youngagain.org/images/presidentspending.PNG

Nice job you've done in creating real, lasting change.

give yourself a pat on the back for failing to oppose obama. much of the spending in your graph includes out of control entitlements enacted before "we" were old enough to vote.

social conservatives have dominated the republican party recently but the time has come for fiscal conservatives to rule. the rise of the tea parties is evidence of a real mandate for reform impossible just a few years ago.

one can support the liberals currently in power, give up and surrender to chaos, or join with others to deny power to the radicals and undo their radical nonsense that is at the root of our problems.

there are no other choices.

carguym14
August 31, 2010, 08:43
Originally posted by TheJokker


give yourself a pat on the back for failing to oppose obama. much of the spending in your graph includes out of control entitlements enacted before "we" were old enough to vote.

social conservatives have dominated the republican party recently but the time has come for fiscal conservatives to rule. the rise of the tea parties is evidence of a real mandate for reform impossible just a few years ago.

one can support the liberals currently in power, give up and surrender to chaos, or join with others to deny power to the radicals and undo their radical nonsense that is at the root of our problems.

there are no other choices.


And why is that?
Because all the republican kool-aid drinkers went ahead and voted for whatever candidate had an (R) next to his name over the years.

And the only reason a third party isn't a viable option is we have let ourselves become brainwashed into the idea that you have to pick one of two.

This mess has been a long time coming.If McCain had won,people like you would have stood behind everything he did because of that little (R) next to his name-and things probably wouldn't be a whole lot better at this point.

one hand clapping
August 31, 2010, 11:02
And THAT my friends is why we are where we are.

Some time in the past someone figured out that if you can shrink human being's perceptions of reality into only two choices, you can get them to do ANYTHING.

Mabey it was the romans and the pope, who knows who thought it up BUT it has become the S.O.P.for the global elite over the last several hundred years.

IiThe sceme always frames a situation so that there is only one "decent" option, given the alternative and wala--- they get you to hand your power over by accepting their story of how things are and have been.

gates
August 31, 2010, 18:01
Right up to when you go French Revolution on their ass:-)

brunop
August 31, 2010, 18:12
Originally posted by carguym14



And why is that?
Because all the republican kool-aid drinkers went ahead and voted for whatever candidate had an (R) next to his name over the years.

And the only reason a third party isn't a viable option is we have let ourselves become brainwashed into the idea that you have to pick one of two.

This mess has been a long time coming.If McCain had won,people like you would have stood behind everything he did because of that little (R) next to his name-and things probably wouldn't be a whole lot better at this point.


Ding-ding-ding. We have a WINNER.


OHC - It's "voila`" (French, roughly for "there you have it" or "check it out!"). Just tryin' to help.

TheJokker
September 01, 2010, 06:58
Originally posted by brunop

Ding-ding-ding. We have a WINNER.
OHC - It's "voila`" (French, roughly for "there you have it" or "check it out!"). Just tryin' to help.
over two hundred years of history so it should be easy to name an example of a successful third party campaign. history is littered with third party campaigns that resulted in the exact opposite of the stated goals of those parties. the evolution of the tea parties as a vehicle for reforming the republican party means america has realized that third parties are stupid...

unless you "like" the change obama and the democrats are imposing on our country stopping the liberals by forming a majority has become an imperative. within the republican party/tea party are men and women who support an agenda that can begin the process of reforming our government into a sustainable institution.

D P Six
September 01, 2010, 12:14
history is littered with third party campaigns that resulted in the exact opposite of the stated goals of those parties. I agree that working under the umbrella of an 'established' party has obvious efficiencies, Ron Paul's notoriety is a good example. However if the Republican Party can do no better than intergenerational Bushes, Doles, McCains, who will ultimately do as much damage as the Democratic Party does, it is past time to vote third party even if that causes the beloved GOP to crash into the mountainside.

carguym14
September 01, 2010, 12:16
Originally posted by TheJokker

over two hundred years of history so it should be easy to name an example of a successful third party campaign. history is littered with third party campaigns that resulted in the exact opposite of the stated goals of those parties. the evolution of the tea parties as a vehicle for reforming the republican party means america has realized that third parties are stupid...

unless you "like" the change obama and the democrats are imposing on our country stopping the liberals by forming a majority has become an imperative. within the republican party/tea party are men and women who support an agenda that can begin the process of reforming our government into a sustainable institution.


And how close to the Constitution have we stayed all these years?By voting for the lesser evil of the choices we are offered?

How have your precious republicans done at protecting the Constitution?I know you enjoy your blind obedience,but you must see some of it.

I swear the politicians in DC have to laugh their ass of talking about the average American.

I place the blame solely on We The People.This has been a long time coming,and if you think a republican victory will mean shit this fall,you are delusional.It will just be back to the republicans screwing us,but to the republican kool-aid drinkers,that will be OK-because they are "our" party.

ftierson
September 01, 2010, 14:18
Originally posted by TheJokker

over two hundred years of history so it should be easy to name an example of a successful third party campaign.

Such a statement strikes me as one made with little understanding of the origin of the Republican Party itself...

Forrest

Tyris
September 01, 2010, 15:17
Third parties cannot exist as contenders in a winner-take-all system.

They can act as a spoiler though: a third party splits the vote of the party they are most closely aligned with, the remaining party wins by default in such instances.

The downside of a winner take all system is that the two parties converge and only differ on wedge issues like abortion, guns, homos, prayer in school, etc; basically shit that matters little to the middle, and only to the far fringes. They do not differ on the key element prevalent in everyone's life: ever increase government intervention in all aspects of life. They are both for it, as they both benefit directly from it.

-T