Nine day, 60 mile long ChiCom traffic jam

[SWOHFAL]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-11062708

Like a Chinese fire drill....

[Thorack]

Wow,

I knew the Chinese were homogenous line followers (like Ants) but wow they just built that road and so many trucks have driven on it its been destroyed. Sounds like trains missed China. Heres the start of many Chinese problems.

Thorack

[SWOHFAL]

I predict China is going to be a disaster zone as their economy grows.

[perryturner]

Originally posted by SWOHFAL
I predict China is going to be a disaster zone as their economy grows. Please explain. I spent three weeks in Nanjing last year. I was pretty surprised at how prosperous a lot of it was. And the weekend I spent in Shanghai was amazing.

[2barearms]

Originally posted by perryturner
Please explain. I spent three weeks in Nanjing last year. I was pretty surprised at how prosperous a lot of it was. And the weekend I spent in Shanghai was amazing.

Perry
You could contrast it with say the Gulf Frwy in Houston, pretty much a
60 mile long traffic jam 7 days a week. They're only on the ninth day.

[SWOHFAL]

Originally posted by perryturner
Please explain. I spent three weeks in Nanjing last year. I was pretty surprised at how prosperous a lot of it was. And the weekend I spent in Shanghai was amazing.

Pollution, shortage of infrastructure, etc. You'll not see that in their showplace cities, if they can help it, however. It's pretty obvious they don't have much of a freight rail system.

[perryturner]

Originally posted by SWOHFAL


Pollution, shortage of infrastructure, etc. You'll not see that in their showplace cities, if they can help it, however. It's pretty obvious they don't have much of a freight rail system. Yeah, the pollution in Nanjing was pretty bad. And I noticed the lack of rail freight. But I was only in Nanjing and Shanghai, and it seemed like a lot of stuff was being moved on the river.

I was just surprised at how far they've come. It's all relative. It hasn't been that long since the place was almost as bad as North Korea. The people I worked with seemed pretty happy. They knew what their parents went through.

[justashooter]

Originally posted by perryturner
Please explain. I spent three weeks in Nanjing last year. I was pretty surprised at how prosperous a lot of it was. And the weekend I spent in Shanghai was amazing.

shanghai is arguably the most presentable of chinese cities. beijing is close. nanking is not in the same category.

regardless, china is short of infrastructure because it is short of money. the money they did have has been triple leveraged for years now, and it's getting harder and harder for state owned banks to write bad paper to cover purchases of American and european made manufacturing equipment by state owned enterprises that they can run at a loss to drive western vendors out of the market.

if the truth is ever more than nodded at, there will be hell on earth, and it will be china. the people there are wonderful as individuals and in family units you belong to, but they are ruthless beyond the family, and horrific in mass.

there are a reported 6000+ "mass incidences" (riots involving more than 1000 people) in china in an average recent year. burning police cars and public offices is standard fare, though death tolls are lower for size of riot than in most places, and the fuze is short. i saw this personally in kaifeng in 2006 in a riot that involved 60,000 people in a city of 4 million.

when the people of china run on the banks and demand their renminbi they will be slaughtered en masse by the PLA, which will in turn be brought down by the rake and the shovel. then it all comes to an end for decades, worldwide.