The Secrets of Oz, full length Movie

[JohnnyReb]

The Secrets of Oz (http://www.swarmusa.com/vb4/content.php/318-Bill-Still-%E2%80%93-The-Secret-of-Oz)

[JR in the NW]

Watched it a couple days ago.

Worth watching if you're unsure.

[Hootsmon]

Very educational.

A lot of history I wasn't aware of.

[JohnnyReb]

Originally posted by Hootsmon
Very educational.

A lot of history I wasn't aware of.

I thought it was interesting that just about everyone with any power advocating against the central banking cartel (of the day) gets assassinated, starting with Jesus.

From Jesus to JFK, 2000 years of central banking hitmen!

[FNfreak]

I watched the whole thing last night. Pretty good. Takes a while to digest it. He makes a great argument against gold. The idea of government issued money, seems valid, actually the same as what we do now just without Wall Street bankers acting as the middlemen.

[JohnnyReb]

Originally posted by FNfreak
I watched the whole thing last night. Pretty good. Takes a while to digest it. He makes a great argument against gold. The idea of government issued money, seems valid, actually the same as what we do now just without Wall Street bankers acting as the middlemen.

Yep,

Why are we paying ******* interest, for what ??? The treasury could do just as horrible a job without the interest payments to a few wealthy families! At least we could vote them out ...

[Bama Steve]

KD said in this video "The quarters in your pocket are not debt based instruments", but the dollar is?

Is this because of who makes the quarters and controls the quantity?

Help me out here . . .

[L Haney]

Rabble rouser. :tongue:

[JohnnyReb]

Originally posted by Bama Steve
KD said in this video "The quarters in your pocket are not debt based instruments", but the dollar is?

Is this because of who makes the quarters and controls the quantity?

Help me out here . . .

I'll take a shot at it:

The US Treasury issues coins fom the US Mint.

Paper dollars come from the Federal Reserve, at interest.

I think I got that right.

Mark Twain - It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

[Bama Steve]

Originally posted by L Haney
Rabble rouser. :tongue:

You say "Rabble", I say Rebel . . .

:biggrin:

[Bama Steve]

Originally posted by JohnnyReb


I'll take a shot at it:

The US Treasury issues coins fom the US Mint.

Paper dollars come from the Federal Reserve, at interest.

I think I got that right.

Mark Twain - It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

JReb,

That was kinda where I was going with my comments.

I think a few dumpsters full of quarters on-hand - could become much better than gold . . .



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[shlomo]

Originally posted by JohnnyReb


Why are we paying ******* interest, for what ???


THIS!!


Why are we paying interest on money created out of thin air?

Why pay interest on fictional money that the so-called "lender" didn't have to lend in the first place?

[Bama Steve]

Originally posted by shlomo

THIS!!
Why are we paying interest on money created out of thin air?
Why pay interest on fictional money that the so-called "lender" didn't have to lend in the first place?

You must be referring to "Fractional Reserve Banking".

(Age-old practice of stealing) . . .

Get with-it, old timer.



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[JohnnyReb]

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[JohnnyReb]

Originally posted by shlomo



THIS!!


Why are we paying interest on money created out of thin air?

Why pay interest on fictional money that the so-called "lender" didn't have to lend in the first place?

Yep, this is the Sovereign Right of a State. We need to incarcerate all the central bankers and confiscate their wealth, as a warning to all future bankers. NO fractional reserve banking! You can only lend what you HAVE. Banks should compete for money like everybody else.

Good luck all, see you on the other side....

[JohnnyReb]

Originally posted by JohnnyReb


I'll take a shot at it:

The US Treasury issues coins fom the US Mint.

Paper dollars come from the Federal Reserve, at interest.

I think I got that right.

Mark Twain - It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.

Looking at my post I just realized WHY they are holding back all the new $1 coins. I read on Bloomberg or The FT or some other MAINSTREAM website that BILLIONS in new $1 coins were minted but sitting somewhere. If anyone rembers that story please post a link.

[Bama Steve]

You can still buy $1 coins direct from the US Mint and shipping is free.

http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/?action=directShip


Interesting . . . .

[brunop]

It doesn't matter if you or hundreds of us start using coin. The nation as a whole (and you are a tax paying citizen) is taking on the debt. The local and regional banks that you use are taking on the debt. Everyone is taking on the debt until no one is taking on the debt.

Lincoln was definitely hit for the greenback program that was coming to pay off the civil war debt. jfk, too.

[Bama Steve]

Originally posted by brunop
It doesn't matter if you or hundreds of us start using coin. The nation as a whole (and you are a tax paying citizen) is taking on the debt. The local and regional banks that you use are taking on the debt. Everyone is taking on the debt until no one is taking on the debt.

Lincoln was definitely hit for the greenback program that was coming to pay off the civil war debt. jfk, too.

That was why I asked the question concerning US minted coins and the Federal reserve Notes (Dollar).

It seems to me that the Dollar will fall out of favor sooner (if ever) than the Coins will as a an instrument of monetary exchange on a day-to-day basis.

Either way, we are still connected to the debt because coins are based in Dollars, right?

:wink:

[shlomo]

Steve, you DO realize that the coins are basically slugs, right? I mean, a penny is zinc with a copper wash, and the "silver" coins are copper slugs with a cuponickel veneer or something.

They are intended to only look like the real thing, and are a perfect metaphor for the paper money.

[Bama Steve]

Originally posted by shlomo
Steve, you DO realize that the coins are basically slugs, right? I mean, a penny is zinc with a copper wash, and the "silver" coins are copper slugs with a cuponickel veneer or something.

They are intended to only look like the real thing, and are a perfect metaphor for the paper money.

What part of my "leading questions" did you miss?

Horses need to *want* to drink the water - If ya shove it their faces . . .

:biggrin:

(I don't *think* you missed anything, actually . . .)

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[shlomo]

Just checkin'.

[Bama Steve]

We're even - for now . . . .

;)

[dean06919]

A very interesting argument against the Federal Reserve and the gold standard. This is one of those videos that need to be watched several times to catch the more salient points. I hope to do so in the next few weeks.

Somewhat interesting was the authors claim as to the cause of massive inflation during the Revolutionary War. He cited British counterfeiting as being the main cause. If anyone is able to track down the actual numbers, I would be very interested in seeing them. I searched for a works cited page, but could not find one on the website.

I do know that the Continental Congress's reliance on seigniorage to fund the war increased from $6 million in in 1775 to $125 million in 1779 (Mankiw). Given the small GDP of the country at the time, one has to wonder what percentage of an increase in inflation could be attributed to the British and what percentage was the result of fiscal policy.