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Forrester
August 13, 2010, 19:02
YOUR GOVERNMENT AT "WORK"

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/08/205_71329.html

By Jung Sung-ki

The U.S. government opposed South Korea’s bid to sell hundreds of thousands of aging U.S. combat rifles to American gun collectors, a senior government official said Thursday.

The ministry announced the plan last September as part of efforts to boost its defense budget, saying the export of the M1 Garand and carbine rifles would start by the end of 2009.

The U.S. administration put the brakes on the plan, citing “problems” that could be caused by the importation of the rifles.

The problems the U.S. government cited were somewhat ambiguous, said an official at the Ministry of National Defense on condition of anonymity.

“The U.S. insisted that imports of the aging rifles could cause problems such as firearm accidents. It was also worried the weapons could be smuggled to terrorists, gangs or other people with bad intentions,” the official told The Korea Times.

“We’re still looking into the reason why the U.S. administration is objecting to the sale of the rifles and seeking ways to resolve the problems raised,” he said.

Critics say the ministry pushed to sell the firearms in a hasty manner without enough consultation with the U.S. beforehand, as calls were growing to increase defense expenditure.

The Seoul government sought to sell the outdated U.S guns back to the United States.

A total of 86,000 M1 rifles and another 22,000 carbines were to be sold, as the weapons have been mothballed for about five decades in military warehouses. The per-unit price of the M1 rifle is about $220 and the carbine is more than $140, according to the ministry.

M1s were made first in 1926 and used in World War II and the 1954-1975 Vietnam War. The carbines were first produced in 1941 and used during the 1950-1953 Korean War.

cpd109
August 13, 2010, 19:58
Originally posted by Forrester
M1s were made first in 1926 and used in World War II and the 1954-1975 Vietnam War. The carbines were first produced in 1941 and used during the 1950-1953 Korean War.

Really? I didn't think they were issued until 1937. What is the story here? In Vietnam until 1975? By the Vietnamese? North and/or South? I don't dispute the carbine info though. That doesn't make it correct either.

Edit for spelling issues!

John Culver
August 13, 2010, 20:26
Originally posted by cpd109


Really? I didn't think they were issued until 1937. What is the story here? In Vietnam until 1975? By the Vietnamese? North and/or South? I don't dispute the carbibe info though. That doesn't make it correct either.

Not issued until 1937 but were in army trials as early as 1924

SWOHFAL
August 13, 2010, 22:32
I believe they meant 1936. Terrorists using M1s?


Give me a break. :rolleyes:

martin35
August 14, 2010, 00:15
I believe they meant 1936. Terrorists using M1s?
Not while the $29.95 AK's are available on credit,,,, I think the conceptual patent for the M-1 Garand was in 1932. "Carbine" Williams a convict filed his patent around 1938 I think. All the prisoners in the brig on Treasure Island were trained to hit the deck at the sound of a M2 carbine being charged,,,, a thrilling sight to behold at 17yo and as compelling the the call from a minaret.

one hand clapping
August 14, 2010, 09:27
Thank you for the heads up.

THAT SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, oh and did I mention

THAT SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.

What a laugh, terrorists? I can see the reprobates linen'n up to grab such a light , high capacity assult gun to reek havoc on the innocent suburbs/ LEO's.

Gun accidents? what a discharge towards a traitor?
give me a break bitch, she gives women a bad name.

OHC

Bawana jim
August 14, 2010, 12:21
“The U.S. insisted that imports of the aging rifles could cause problems such as firearm accidents. It was also worried the weapons could be smuggled to terrorists, gangs or other people with bad intentions,” the official told The Korea Times. "

Lets see now, Americans buy old rifles and get mad at government and use them against government. Better Americans use new guns if they are going to become terrorist against government:D :D How dumb our ruling class is, here they have a chance to better the econmy with more sales of "OLD" guns and they blow it.

jim

martin35
August 14, 2010, 14:10
The Koreans may have need of those old gats, I know I enjoy mine...or maybe they have nukes now too. I should probably consider going nuclear.

FAL freek
August 14, 2010, 16:51
Gubments reason for worrying about those rifles being sold in the U.S. makes about as much sense as that govt. moron asking about Guam tipping over because of too many troops being stationed there. If it weren't true this article might be funny.

Texas Jaguar
August 14, 2010, 17:47
I wouldn't be at all suprised to see our government buy up the whole lot. That way they could insure they would never get into the hands of terrorists (finding a terrorist that would drop his AK47 and pick up an M1 is another issue). They could then pay a Liberian flagged ship to haul them to China and pay the Chinese to cut them in two and melt them all down. Makes perfect sense in Obama think, right?

the gman
August 15, 2010, 09:42
Koreans made a HUGE mistake in not importing them here when Bush was in office. Sure, the guy was a criminally negligent buffoon but at least these rifles would probably have made it into the country OK.

Or they should wait until after November; prolly going to be a very different political landscape at that point......:rofl:

one hand clapping
August 15, 2010, 10:49
Mabey they're affraid there won't be an election and were trying to do the deal asap. I agree with G-man.

L Haney
August 15, 2010, 11:29
My take is that import restrictions of this type put the crimp on interstate commerce and are afoul of that cherished clause that the feds use to stick all manner of onerous intrusion up our butts. Good thing they "rule", and don't have to pay attention to their own laws. We've let these mutts roam far to far afield, and they will never take us seriously again. Why should they? We need a rotating duty assignment of 50 citizens to approve every damn thing the morons do. And that is a pipe dream of the N'th degree.

2barearms
August 16, 2010, 16:20
Dangerous old men with Garands. I've wondered lately what would
happen if a bunch of 80 yr olds with Garands decided to 'take' their
country back. They essentially have nothing to lose and everything to
gain.

cpd109
August 16, 2010, 16:33
Originally posted by 2barearms
Dangerous old men with Garands. I've wondered lately what would
happen if a bunch of 80 yr olds with Garands decided to 'take' their
country back. They essentially have nothing to lose and everything to
gain.

Yeah, DHS says they're a lot of terrorists. Nothing worse than a mad terrorist. With a Garand that he knows how to use.

jrkoller
August 16, 2010, 17:27
Yup the south Vietnam Army did use the M1 grand i saw them carring them in the 60's I had to laugh at that, the rifle was damn neer as long as they were tall, put a bayo on it and it was.

Heat
August 16, 2010, 21:46
When thet mentioned 'terrorists' they meant us..

one hand clapping
August 17, 2010, 08:14
Isn't that what king george called our founders? guess if it comes to that I'll be proud to be called the same.

Got it Barry Seotoro ???? , hennry Kissenger???? ,
mr or ms federal agent who gets paid to monitor us. I am an American and Will NOT get on bent knee to you. I will stand and protect the constitution and YOUR rights as well as mine.---- go home ,look at your sleeping children / spouse / or in the mirror, and DECIDE which side you are on.

Freedom or Facisism / socialism

One hand clapping