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Bama Steve
July 27, 2010, 22:20
The company I work for just recieved this set of forms and it asks some silly question of the employees - much like the failed Census did - I ask you if you have seen this, what you think it means for small business and to keep an eye-out for it in your area.

I want to know the ACTUAL ramification of a small business filling them out and complying - I smell a huge dead rat for some reason.





<Company Name>

Employee Survey Form

Personal Information

Employee Name:
LAST FIRST MIDDLE INITIAL

Equal Employment Opportunity Report Information (EEO)


Sex  M  F

 Full-time  Part-time  Seasonal


Ethnic Origin:  Hispanic/Latino (Cuban, Mexican, Puerto Rican, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture )

 American Indian or Alaska Native  Asian  Black or African American

 Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander  White  Other (2 or more races) _________


Occupation Class:  Executive/Senior Level Officials  First/Mid-Level Officials & Managers

 Professionals  Technicians  Sales Workers  Administrative Support Workers

 Craft Workers  Operatives  Laborers & Helpers  Service Workers

Veterans’ Employment Report Information

 Non-Veteran
 Disabled Veteran
 Other Protected Veteran
 Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran
 Recently Separated Veteran (within the last 3 years)

EEO Descriptions:

Executive/Senior Level Officials and Managers Examples - CEO, COO, CFO, Presidents, Vice President, management directors and managing partners.

First/Mid Level Officials and Managers: Individuals who serve as managers.

Professionals: Require bachelor and graduate degrees and/or professional certification. Examples – Engineers, accountants, architects, etc.

Technicians: Require applied scientific skills, usually obtained by post secondary education of varying lengths. Examples – Drafters, emergency medical technicians, chemical technicians, and broadcast & sound engineering technicians.

Sales Workers: Involve direct sales. Examples – advertising sales agents, insurance sales, real estate, securities, financial, retail and cashiers.

Administrative Support Works: Non-managerial tasks providing administrative and support assistance, primarily in office settings.

Craft Workers: Includes higher skilled occupations in construction. Examples – masons, carpenters, electricians, painters, glaziers, pipelayers, plumbers, pipefitters, plasterers, roofers, drillers. Includes occupations related to the installation, maintenance and part replacement of equipment, machines and tools, such as: automotive mechanics, aircraft mechanics, electric and electronic equipment repairers.

Operatives: Category include intermediate skilled occupations and include workers who operate machines or factory-related processing equipment. Examples – textile machine workers, laundry/dry cleaners, taxi/bus/tractor/forklift drivers.

Laborers and Helpers: Limited skills who require brief training to perform tasks. Examples – construction helpers, laborers, freight, stock and material movers.

Service Workers: Include food service, cleaning service, personal service and protective service activities. Examples – Bartenders, food service workers, hairdressers, ushers, janitors, transit and railroad police, firefighters, investigators.

************************************************** ************************************************** *******************
Veterans Description

Disabled Veteran: Veteran of the US military, ground, naval or air service who is entitled to compensation (or who but for the receipt of military retired pay would be entitled to compensation) under laws administered by the Secretary of Veterans Affairs, or a person who was discharged or released from active duty because of a service-connected disability.

Other Protected Veteran: Veteran who served on active duty in the US military, ground, naval, or air service during a war or in a campaign or expedition for which a campaign badge has been authorized. To make determination: http://www.opm.gov/veterans/html/vgmedal2.htm .

Armed Forces Service Medal Veteran: Veteran who, while serving on active duty in the US military, ground, naval or air service, participated in a US military operation for which an Armed Forces service medal was awarded. http://www.opm.gov/veterans/html/vgmedal2.asp

Recently Separated Veteran: Veteran during the 3-year period beginning on the date of such veteran’s discharge or release from active duty in the US military, ground, naval, or air service.

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Kosovo March 24, 1999 to present
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Lebanon
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and June 1, 1983, to December 1,
1987
Mayaguez Operation May 15, 1975 to May 15, 1975
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Panama
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December 20, 1989, to January 31,
1990
Persian Gulf Operation
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Persian Gulf Operation
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Persian Gulf Operation
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Persian Gulf Operation
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December 16, 1998 to December
22, 1998
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Quemoy and Matsu Islands August 23, 1958, to June 1, 1963
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December 5, 1992, to March 31,
1995
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Thailand May 16, 1962, to August 10, 1962
Vietnam Evacuation
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Vietnam (including Thailand) July 1, 1958, to July 3, 1965
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allows the Secretary of the military department concerned to determine
whether individual members who participated in Operation Joint Endeavor or
Operation Joint Guard in the Republic of Bosnia and Herzegovina and in such
other areas in the region as the Secretary of Defense considers appropriate,
meet the individual service requirements for award of the Armed Forces
Expeditionary Medal (AFEM). Generally, service members will be considered
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the operations;
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of the operations; or
● operated in airspace above Bosnia, Herzegovina (or other area that
the Secretary of Defense considers appropriate) while the operations
were in effect.
Navy expeditionary Medal and Marine Corps Medal for these
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Expedition
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Cuba January 3, 1961 to October 23,
1962
Indian Ocean/Iran November 21, 1979, to October
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Panama
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1986 and
February 1, 1990 to June 13, 1990
Persian Gulf February 1, 1987 to July 23, 1987
Rwanda
(Operation Distant runner) April 7 - 18, 1994
Thailand May 16 - August 10, 1962
Other Campaign and Service Medals Qualifying for Preference:
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Expedition
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Army Occupation of Austria May 9, 1945 to July 27, 1955
Army Occupation of Berlin May 9, 1945 to October 2, 1990
Army Occupation of Germany
(exclusive of Berlin) May 9, 1945 to May 5, 1955
Army Occupation of Japan September 3, 1945 to April 27,
1952
Chinese Service Medal (Extended) September 2, 1945 to April 1, 1957
Korea Defense Service Medal July 28, 1954 to (date to be
determined)
Korean Service June 27, 1950 to July 27, 1954
Kosovo Campaign Medal (KCM)
Operation Allied Force March 24, 1999 to June 10, 1999
Kosovo Campaign Medal (KCM)
Operation Joint Guardian
June 11, 1999 to (date to be
determined)
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Operation Allied Harbor April 4, 1999 to September 1, 1999
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Operation Sustain Hope/Shining Hope April 4, 1999 to July 10, 1999
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Operation Noble Anvil March 24, 1999 to July 20, 1999
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Task Force Saber March 31, 1999 to July 8, 1999
Kosovo Campaign Medal (KCM)
Task Force Falcon
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Kosovo Campaign Medal (KCM)
Task Force Hunter April 1, 1999 to November 1, 1999
Navy Occupation of Austria May 8, 1945 to October 25, 1954
Navy Occupation of Trieste May 8, 1945 to October 25, 1954
Southwest Asia Service Medal
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(Operations Desert Shield and Desert
Storm)
August 2, 1990 to November 30,
1995
Units of the Sixth Fleet (Navy) May 9, 1945 to October 25, 1955
Vietnam Service Medal (VSM) July 4, 1965 to March 28, 1973
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Thailand May 16 - August 10, 1962
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martin35
July 28, 2010, 00:43
Looks like the governments hard-drive crashed and they lost all their data about us,,, did ya ever lose count and have to start all over?

Ricketts
July 28, 2010, 09:01
Good one, Martin.

I can say if I get this from them for my employees, I wil be sure to send it back without any comment but enclosed will be a bunch of Bath and Body Works coupons, magazine subscrition cards and other equally worthless trinkets. Maybe I can find a mess of Obama Bumper stickers that will go unused by disenfranchised voters.

keiser
July 28, 2010, 13:16
They are trying to make sure they don't hire Caucasians.

martin35
July 28, 2010, 13:38
They are trying to make sure they don't hire Caucasians.
Or fiesty people who have served.

Bama Steve
July 28, 2010, 15:03
If you have more than 50 employees or get more than $50K in .gov contracts you must fill out these forms by law . . .

I ain't sayin' what I'm thinking - you do it.

martin35
July 28, 2010, 15:13
Non compliance is proof of a conspiracy and should be dealt with accordingly.

Ricketts
July 28, 2010, 15:21
Originally posted by Bama Steve
If you have more than 50 employees or get more than $50K in .gov contracts you must fill out these forms by law . . .

I ain't sayin' what I'm thinking - you do it.

Probably. And this is one reason why I won't accept government contracts. The money is good but it gets you a partner in your business that has more say than you do in running YOUR business.

OHShooter
July 28, 2010, 18:28
I would need to find it again but something I was reading the other day said that businesses will be required to list all employees. They will have to be broken down by age, sex, ethnicity, etc. and what each one is paid.

Then the stormtroopers..er ah government authorities will decide whether or not everyone is receiving equal pay for equal work. If the PTB decides that there is pay inequity, the business will be required adjust the pay of the slugs to that of the people that actually do work.

I think this little gem is tucked away somewhere in the financial reform bill that was recently passed and signed.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be socialism.

aardq
July 28, 2010, 18:40
But this is the fed god reducing unemployment. They have to hire people to receive, open, tabulate, do the computer entry, and then two groups, one to analyze the info and the second group to enforce the rules. That means more jobs for more people.

And don't forget the economic stimulus it will provide by the money the feds will spend to by those computers, and the office furniture, and office supplies, and all that will help spur the economy.

So ya see, it's really for the good of the country, just ask them!

Dan

J308
July 28, 2010, 18:50
Just another way of getting reparations without calling it reparations.

one hand clapping
July 28, 2010, 21:03
My lawyer, bless his little liberal heart, was a barry satoro supporter. We spoke politics one day and he stated he was for "redistrubution of wealth" to make things more fair. I then explained that he finaly convinced me and I declaired I would not pay him the fifteen hundred i OWED HIM FOR SOME WORK ,EXPLAINING i HAD A "NEED" and since he was so much better off than me I should not have to pay him.
Ya should of seen the look on his face
He at first thought I was serious and started telling me about having to pay for his son's college and it would not be fair to not pay for work already completed.I laughed my ass off while pointing out the hippocracy as I handed him fifteen franklins, explaining I payed my debts no matter what the social conditions of the other party. BUT I DID ask him to think about how willing he was to give others $$ away to the "needy" but when it came to his pocket he balked concerning redistrubuting $$ for my bill.

Stay free

One hand clapping

martin35
July 28, 2010, 21:11
They (employees)will have to be broken down by age, sex, ethnicity, etc. and what each one is paid.
Age and sex will break you down before your ethicity does.

AndyC
July 28, 2010, 21:16
Originally posted by one hand clapping
...but when it came to his pocket he balked concerning redistrubuting $$ for my bill.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Ain't it funny how it's fine when it comes to other peoples' money, but when it comes to putting up their own.... *crickets*

Bama Steve
July 28, 2010, 21:33
Originally posted by martin35
Age and sex will break you down before your ethicity does.

You got anything else to share with us, Old Sage?

:rofl:

You are one funny/clever guy.

Best!

:beer:

martin35
July 28, 2010, 22:01
Yeah,, if a cop asks you any one of those questions say they are to be asked by and answered only to a federal agent,,,and then look out for his slap stick reply.
It will crack them up.
The reparte on these forums reminds me of a time when I sat in a bunker with my buddies and we would dream up stuff we would say if we got captured in our sleep,,,, as that we agreed was the only way it could happen,,, and then we go to sleep, brain tired after our bedtime stories. Almost forgot, it was our habit to produced the loudest fart we could muster at this juncture also.

Bama Steve
July 28, 2010, 22:22
You got me laughing through my tears, buddy!

All I can say is, THANKS - for everything, and nothing . . .

:bigangel:

Deltaten
July 29, 2010, 17:40
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it must be socialism.

My new sig line OH.....
Thanks
:D