Resolution 1553- OK for Israel to Attack Iran? [Archive]

juanni

July 27, 2010, 15:34

Originally posted by Nick H.
So I guess the plan is we give the Israelis a nod and a wink, they bomb the crap out of Iran while Obama apologizes and then we get to enjoy 5 - $10 gas.

Doesn't sound like a great plan, but it is better than waiting for the mushroom clouds to appear over a few of our major cities after the Iranians arm the terrorists.

The Iranians are decades away, if ever from "mushroom clouds to appear over a few of our major cities". :rolleyes:
Didn't we learn anything from Iraq?

And they are not stupid and know it would be their extermination.

...............juanni

cpd109

July 27, 2010, 16:31

Originally posted by juanni

The Iranians are decades away, if ever from "mushroom clouds to appear over a few of our major cities". :rolleyes:
Didn't we learn anything from Iraq?

And they are not stupid and know it would be their extermination.

...............juanni

News said (according to wifey) that Iran would be able to the US (Great Satan) or Israel (Small Satan) by 2014. They are trying to get it together to put a man in space by 2019. Well, you see, with that as an offical goal, they will discover how to make a ballistic missle with a warhead. That's what was so upsetting about Sputnik. We were way behind USSR at that point. It's also a covert reason we (Kennedy) wanted a man on the moon by the end of the decade. The goal is a ballisitc missle. Why else would the Iranians want a moose limb in space. To start a weekly sitcom? (Mooooselimbs In Space! said as Pigs in Space. Having said that, what irony!) Anyway, if you're going to put a man in space, a side benefit is a ballistic missle that will launch a heavy payload too.

BTW, we were way off in figureing when the USSR would be a nuclear power, years off. They had someone passing them secrets and it was only about 3 years (IIRC) after they set off their first nuke that they set off their first hydrogen bomb. Scared the crap of out DC.

FAL freek

July 27, 2010, 17:23

Originally posted by 308bolt
There will be no happy endings in the Middle-East. They know it and that's why there are lots of folks only too happy to martyr themsleves so they can go get their 72 virgins.

martin35

July 27, 2010, 19:24

The Iranians are decades away, if ever from "mushroom clouds to appear over a few of our major cities". Can I take your word on that?

If somebody gets nuked, it will be done by "insurgents," or "terrorists,"and it will be done with a black market device. Nuked is nuked. A bomb and a camel jockey have worked pretty good so far as a delivery system,,, and it's already perfected.

Iran leadership is I believe radicalized in their belief that they will be instrumental in the last days before their world dominating Caliph is a fact, I have little faith in the Caliph but fanatics are a dangerous reality today.
What me worry?

cpd109

July 27, 2010, 20:37

Originally posted by W.E.G.
Iran aint gonna nuke ANYBODY.

If somebody gets nuked, it will be done by "insurgents," or "terrorists,"and it will be done with a black market device.

Looks like you read Overton Window.

Or from our southern bordrer by OTMs?

shooter_37

July 28, 2010, 05:35

According to Shi’te orthodoxy humans may not force or hasten the return of the Imam, but the Hojjateiehs a group of which Ahmadinejad is a member, opine that humans may stir up chaos to encourage his return.

juanni

July 28, 2010, 08:27

Originally posted by W.E.G.
Iran aint gonna nuke ANYBODY.

If somebody gets nuked, it will be done by "insurgents," or "terrorists,"and it will be done with a black market device.

Yep.

The rest of ya can continue the group bed wetting, warmongering and divine interpretations of the koran, based on seconds of Talk Radio snippets.

................juanni

Nick H.

July 28, 2010, 09:39

My point is not that Iran will openly nuke the US. My point is they will produce weapons and likely arm the insurgents or terrorists. The flood of people coming across our southern border could certainly carry in the components for several weapons. Those weapons could be assembled in various mosques or in someones garage in any major city. They could all go off simultaneously on the tenth anniversary of 911 or on some muslim holiday.

There is no downside for these folks. If Iran gets nuked off the face of the earth, they go to instant paradise. That isn't a deterrent for them.

juanni

July 28, 2010, 11:20

Originally posted by Nick H.
My point is not that Iran will openly nuke the US. My point is they will produce weapons and likely arm the insurgents or terrorists. The flood of people coming across our southern border could certainly carry in the components for several weapons. Those weapons could be assembled in various mosques or in someones garage in any major city. They could all go off simultaneously on the tenth anniversary of 911 or on some muslim holiday.

There is no downside for these folks. If Iran gets nuked off the face of the earth, they go to instant paradise. That isn't a deterrent for them.

All these nutty Iran wants to kill us and as a bonus they get wil get to paradise fears, have a big problem......
Why isn't Iran waging war against us now, and no not little proxy wars but the big one?

Why aren't they NOW and in the last 50 years crossing our borders and goin' Mumbai killin infidels and cashing in on the virgins?
I mean it is win:win for them.
"No Downside", Right?

What does it say somewhere in the koran, to wait till you have nukes and then begin the jihad and your own self destruction in earnest? :rolleyes:

............juanni

cpd109

July 28, 2010, 11:42

We infidels were not a problem until we went to Arabia in numbers due to the Kuwait invasion.

and

juanni quote:

The rest of ya can continue the group bed wetting, warmongering and divine interpretations of the koran, based on seconds of Talk Radio snippets.

If you read the link, you will see it's a congressional pass for Israel. Nothing about a talk show. You did read it, didn't you? And it's a done deal for the house.

juanni

July 28, 2010, 12:09

Originally posted by cpd109
We infidels were not a problem until we went to Arabia in numbers due to the Kuwait invasion.

and

juanni quote:

The rest of ya can continue the group bed wetting, warmongering and divine interpretations of the koran, based on seconds of Talk Radio snippets.

If you read the link, you will see it's a congressional pass for Israel. Nothing about a talk show. You did read it, didn't you? And it's a done deal for the house.

Oh, we weren't infidels when we overthrew the elected Iranian govt 40 years before Kuwait?
Or when they deposed our puppet?
Just since Kuwait, huh.

Yes, I read the HR,,, to give Israel a pass to offensively attack another sovereign nation without provocation.

The "talk show" along with the "bedwetting" comment was directed at others here, not the bill.
Or is "bedwetting" somewhere in the bill? :tongue:

................juanni

cpd109

July 28, 2010, 20:24

Originally posted by juanni
Yes, I read the HR,,, to give Israel a pass to offensively attack another sovereign nation without provocation.

................juanni

Without provocation? Check out the 1967 war and then the 1973 war. They about got their a$$es beat in the 1973 war by waiting due to the 1967 war where they preemptively struck. (This will depend on the nerve and perceived threat of Iran as to whether they preemptively stike.)
I read today that they think (IAE/UN) Iran has enough highly enriched uranium to make several bombs. (It was in a May copy of Newsmax and I don't remember the number, but they have been refining since 1985 IIRC. (Waiting in the eye dr's office and I found the article.)) Anyway, Iran has not been a good neighbor with all the threats they have been making that Zionists don't deserve to live ad nausium. Oh, BTW, this was mentioned in the bill you read. Didn't you see that part? It was quite long.

martin35

July 28, 2010, 22:37

The rest of ya can continue the group bed wetting, warmongering and divine interpretations of the koran, based on seconds of Talk Radio snippets.
Sloopy seconds are nothing to be sneeked at in certain circles.

A interview some time back on a TV station I can't recall had a retired CIA operative or what ever they call themselves and he claimed the Russians informed Syria that the Jews were fixin' to clean their plow, which they did, but anyway the Ruskies warning as the story goes put the looney toones on a war footing that was detected by the Jews so the Jews doe popped them, that's the book of Ruth Truth as told to a CiA guy by some other CIA guy a long time ago.
A barely literate Marine writing a letter to girl once asked me the difference between satisfied and content, being a consumate user of my native language I thought and then said" " they are the same in most instances" he thought and replied "You are wrong, I'm pretty well satified my woman is messin' a round on me I damn sure ain't content about" all i could think to answer was "you ought to put that in your letter" he smiled a malevalent smile and said real low and menacingly "yeah". Jews run out of stuff to say too.

Bama Steve

July 28, 2010, 22:43

Mouse-trap of a different design . . . Awesome.

No fuss, no muss - just get it done and walk away clean.

def90

July 29, 2010, 13:05

Originally posted by juanni

Oh, we weren't infidels when we overthrew the elected Iranian govt 40 years before Kuwait?
Or when they deposed our puppet?
Just since Kuwait, huh.

How far back do you want to go? The period of dividing up the Middle East after WW1? Back to the defeat of the Ottoman Empire? Or do you just want to go back to a point when the U.S. was involved because it fits your theory and ideal?

Before WW1.. I see Ottoman Empire.. no real country named Iran, Iraq or Palestine. Most of the Middle East was just that. There were not really any countries per say back then, just vague regions.

http://www.middleeastfacts.com/images/middle-east-maps/middle-east-map-before-world-war-one-1914-le-monde-diplomatique.jpg

After WW1.. The British and the French controlled most of the Middle East and created the Provinces of control that were known as Palestine, Trans Jordan, Syria and Iraq.

http://israelipalestinian.procon.org/files/ispal%20images/britishmandate.jpg

Rather than letting the locals decide what the boundaries should be Britain and France decided for them. Now we are still dealing with the fall of the Ottoman Empire 90 odd years later.

juanni

July 29, 2010, 13:31

Originally posted by def90

How far back do you want to go? The period of dividing up the Middle East after WW1? Back to the defeat of the Ottoman Empire? Or do you just want to go back to a point when the U.S. was involved because it fits your theory and ideal?

Before WW1.. I see Ottoman Empire.. no real country named Iran, Iraq or Palestine. Most of the Middle East was just that. There were not really any countries per say back then, just vague regions.

After WW1.. The British and the French controlled most of the Middle East and created the Provinces of control that were known as Palestine, Trans Jordan, Syria and Iraq.

Rather than letting the locals decide what the boundaries should be Britain and France decided for them. Now we are still dealing with the fall of the Ottoman Empire 90 odd years later.

Thanks for supporting my point!

So with all of that background, why is it only NOW that the Iranians are eagerly planning on attacking us with nukes and destroying their entire nation and history?

Why hasn't wave after wave of paradise seeking muslims attacked us (the west) if it is dictated in the koran?
Why haven't they attacked every christian, jew, buddhist, tourist, business person that ever crossed their path?

After all we have always been infidels.
And it is a guaranteed ticket to paradise.

Answer: Because the irrational fear of Iran nuking us is completely unfounded based on their long history.

................juanni

Heat

July 29, 2010, 14:16

Originally posted by juanni

Thanks for supporting my point!

So with all of that background, why is it only NOW that the Iranians are eagerly planning on attacking us with nukes and destroying their entire nation and history?

Why hasn't wave after wave of paradise seeking muslims attacked us (the west) if it is dictated in the koran?
Why haven't they attacked every christian, jew, buddhist, tourist, business person that ever crossed their path?

After all we have always been infidels.
And it is a guaranteed ticket to paradise.

Answer: Because the irrational fear of Iran nuking us is completely unfounded based on their long history.

................juanni
remember juanni, there are ALOT of 'chair-borne' warriors here, fiddling with their FAL's, anxiously waiting for ANY war to talk about..to celebrate the death of millions of innocent civilians

cpd109

July 29, 2010, 20:29

Originally posted by juanni

Thanks for supporting my point!

Q: So with all of that background, why is it only NOW that the Iranians are eagerly planning on attacking us with nukes and destroying their entire nation and history?
A: They have the ability to now and have never been in that postion before. They have been working on this since the '80s. They are not concerned about their nation since they will all get 72 virgins. (Women too?) This is something that you really need to get your head around. They have different goals and desires than you. Really, you have to look at things from their perspective. You are out of the loop if you don't.

Q: Why hasn't wave after wave of paradise seeking muslims attacked us (the west) if it is dictated in the koran?
A: Too hard to get to. And they aren't all crazy. However, there are plenty of OTMs coming across the border unchecked. And we have been attacked, bit by bit, very much over the last year. The successful ones, like the one at FT Hood, came out in the news. There has been at least one attempt per month that reaches the regular media outlets, meaning that there was something to them. Guys getting arrested in stings, getting caught as they approached the military bases, etc. No I can't name them all, but if you aren't aware of any of them, You are out of the loop.

Q: Why haven't they attacked every christian, jew, buddhist, tourist, business person that ever crossed their path?
A: They can't get in Iran. If they do, they are protected by the gov't. Plus, not every Iranian is a fanatic like Akaminaphelm.

After all we have always been infidels.
And it is a guaranteed ticket to paradise.

Pseudo Answer: Because the irrational fear of Iran nuking us is completely unfounded based on their long history.
No: Answer, the IAC or whoever the UN has to run nuke stuff, reported (as I learned for the first time (I think) yesterday), they have schematics from Dr Kahn of Pakistan (who ran the international walmart for nuclear stuff, weapons and material in particular), on how to make a sphere of plutonium, the ONLY use of which is making a bomb. So, why are they doing that if they don't want to make a bomb. And who is the great satan? And the little satan? Come on man! Get your head out of the sand and start looking around. You have a target on your back that someone put there, and you don't know it.

................juanni

Really, get the sand out of your ears.

John Culver

July 29, 2010, 20:56

Originally posted by cpd109
We infidels were not a problem until we went to Arabia in numbers due to the Kuwait invasion.

Ever hear of the Barbary wars? yah we were fighting Muslims since day one.

To say that our modern actions have caused this, is ignorance. Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well. Being *nice* to them changes nothing.

Bama Steve

July 29, 2010, 21:11

Has anyone here supporting the "mouse-lumps" actually TRIED to read the Co-Ran?

Just askin'

1. If not, tell us why your sense of LOGIC compels you to respond as you do.

2. If yes, tell us why your sense of LOGIC & COMPREHENSION compels you to respond as you do.

I did not mention the words EMOTION nor PERCEPTION anywhere, until now.

That is all . . .

:love:

juanni

July 29, 2010, 21:15

Originally posted by John Culver

Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well.

Really, how do you explain the existence of jews and christans in Iran where they have been for CENTURIES? :rolleyes:

Shouldn't they have all been exterminated?
You know, "always have and always will".

..............juanni

Bama Steve

July 29, 2010, 21:30

Cultures do not exist within the confines of a petri dish.

The shit was going to leak out anyways.

Some of the leakage needs to be cleaned up and thrown away before it infects all the other petri dishes.

Ask a biologist or just make up your own perspective of post-leakage-reality.

I am well beyond this level of thought - hurry-up; You might catch up at some point.

(Just watch where you stand - the "mop" don't care for whom it absorbs nor destroys with its sanitizers . . .)

Oh, yeah - I almost forgot to add a smiley face so people don't get the impression that I am serious or something . . .

:rofl:

juanni

July 29, 2010, 21:34

Hey cpd109
figure out how to use the quote feature,,,, reading your posts quoting me and with your comments mixed in, in bold makes my head hurt.

thanks

...................juanni

John Culver

July 30, 2010, 03:07

Originally posted by juanni

Really, how do you explain the existence of jews and christans in Iran where they have been for CENTURIES? :rolleyes:

Shouldn't they have all been exterminated?
You know, "always have and always will".

..............juanni

Many were

And if they do anything Jewish outside of their communities they are executed.

If they attempt to tell a Muslim about Judaism (or Christianity), they are executed

If they encourage others to emigrate, they are executed.

Out of 250,000 Persian Jews, only around 10,000 remain in Iran.
thats 4%, why did the others leave? Persecution is their #1 response.

0.01% of the population of Iran is Jewish, I'd say they have done a pretty good job of exterminating them, especially considering that pre-muslim times, Jews accounted for 20% of the population of Persia

While the government guarantees the recognised Christian minorities a number of rights (production and sale of non-halal foods), guaranteed representation in parliament, special family law etc., government intrusion, expropriation of property, forced closure and persecution, particularly in the initial years after the Iranian Revolution, have all been documented. According to the Barnabas Fund, 'the regime rules through fear, and they want Christians to be afraid'. Most prominent has been the death of Haik Hovsepian Mehr, bishop of the Jamiat-e Rabbani, in 1994. Recently the continuing imprisonment of Hamid Pourmand, a lay pastor of Jammiat-e Rabboni, and the murder of Ghorban Tourani, the pastor of an independent evangelical church have created international concern.

cpd109

July 30, 2010, 05:58

Originally posted by John Culver

Ever hear of the Barbary wars? yah we were fighting Muslims since day one.

To say that our modern actions have caused this, is ignorance. Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well. Being *nice* to them changes nothing.

The Barbary wars, IIRC, was over their piracy. What we are talking about here is their religous side of killing.

I agree that no modern actions have brought this to bear on us, although getting on a jet for 12 hours is easier than travelling for a year. And for the rest, you are dead on John. (No pun intended, really.)

juanni

July 30, 2010, 10:15

Originally posted by John Culver

Out of 250,000 Persian Jews, only around 10,000 remain in Iran.
thats 4%, why did the others leave? Persecution is their #1 response.

Good try even with the low balled numbers, but there is a big difference between fleeing religious persecution (like our own ancestors), fleeing political instablity and
Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well.

Why haven't the muslims killed off their jewish population if that is the reason for muslims existence like you claim?

And the bulk of the Iranian jewish population fled to the US and Israel after the Shah fell and were well off/wealthy. Odd that you have a population that you exist to kill and yet you allow them to live among you and become wealthy.

You have made an idiotic statement unsupportable by the facts and history.
Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well.
Where are the mass killings of infidels in Iran?
Why are there any infidels alive in Iran centuries after become infidel killing muslims?

..............juanni

martin35

July 30, 2010, 11:47

Jews have had to exist by providing their hosts with a valuable and useful capacity of intellectual and professional services. Israel is analogous of a big ghetto the USA finds useful and doesn't want pogromed which is the traditional genocidal method of regulation of Jewish population control.
A majority of Americans find a strong ethical identification with Jews,,, that's how we have existed in the face of our enemies.

The speech heard from the pulpits of a people who hold a grudging hate of you should by logical deduction make you apprehensive.
The history of a nation without vigilance is not as long as some would think, or like.
I remember as a child listening to Hitler insanely name his future conquests, I remember some saying "O that's just crazy talk"
Semantics are small defence to any aggressive group with a stated goal it believes in.
In 1959 Nikita Khrushchev said "your children will be Communist" he was speaking to America and we are ass deep in Socialism the tadpole of Communism, I remember thinking "he's insane"
Those who find the nervous overt right more dangerous than the purveyors of "don't worry" accommodate and ignore our antagonist and are the useful puppets of our downfall,,,, and the inquisitive foot exploring your shitter stall is just a friendly gesture,,, don't worry about it,,,, or more importantly do anything about it, .

308bolt

July 30, 2010, 12:08

Originally posted by martin35

Those who find the nervous overt right more dangerous than the purveyors of "don't worry" accommodate and ignore our antagonist and are the useful puppets of our downfall,,,, and the inquisitive foot exploring your shitter stall is just a friendly gesture,,, don't worry about it,,,, or more importantly do anything about it, .

Tolerance is admirable if what you're tolerating is innocuous.
Unfortunately you seldom know until it's been tolerated for too long.

martin35

July 30, 2010, 12:13

Tolerance is admirable if what you're tolerating is innocuous.
Wish I had said that.

John Culver

July 30, 2010, 12:18

Originally posted by juanni

Good try even with the low balled numbers, but there is a big difference between fleeing religious persecution (like our own ancestors), fleeing political instablity and
Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well.

Why haven't the muslims killed off their jewish population if that is the reason for muslims existence like you claim?

And the bulk of the Iranian jewish population fled to the US and Israel after the Shah fell and were well off/wealthy. Odd that you have a population that you exist to kill and yet you allow them to live among you and become wealthy.

You have made an idiotic statement unsupportable by the facts and history.
Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well.
Where are the mass killings of infidels in Iran?
Why are there any infidels alive in Iran centuries after become infidel killing muslims?

..............juanni

Having had the opportunity to talk with an actual Muslim terrorist (since converted to Christianity I can assure you that "Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well. " is a factual statement.

When he asked other muslims why they had not done their quaranic duty of cleansing the infidels, they reply "it is not yet our time"

martin35

July 30, 2010, 12:21

"it is not yet our time"
Hope he got that right

juanni

July 30, 2010, 12:43

Originally posted by John Culver

I can assure you that "Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well. " is a factual statement.

Simply provide the facts to support your "factual statement".
Not a single data point that you have extrapolated into a universal truth. :rolleyes:

Stay focused now.
If "Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well. " is true then obviously there would be no non-muslims living in, visting and doing business in overwhelmingly muslim countries such as Iran, Egypt, Turkey etc.....

But there are. :uhoh:
Please explain the discrepancy.

Or is your revised statement
"Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well,,,,,,,,,,,, but you know,,,,,,,only if the time is right. " :rolleyes:

................juanni

John Culver

July 30, 2010, 12:49

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ should give you a good idea.

Or you can continue to live with your head in the sand, just make sure its pointed east

martin35

July 30, 2010, 13:12

Or you can continue to live with your head in the sand, just make sure its pointed

juanni

July 30, 2010, 13:36

Originally posted by John Culver
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ should give you a good idea.

Or you can continue to live with your head in the sand, just make sure its pointed east

Why is that YOU can not answer a simple specific question, but instead provide a link to someone else's thoughts and opinions that probably doesn't even address the question I asked of YOU?

I asked YOU!.
Are YOU incapable of supporting your own opinions and answering a simple question?

I will try one last time asking YOU.

If "Muslims exist to try to kill infidels, always have, and always well. " is true then obviously there would be no non-muslims living in, visting and doing business in overwhelmingly muslim countries such as Iran, Egypt, Turkey etc.....

But there are.
Please explain the discrepancy.

................juanni

Topbanana

July 30, 2010, 13:48

I like how basically it's okay to call for genocide if they are Muslims.

wpsuth

July 30, 2010, 14:07

I have what I believe to be an absolutely TERRIFIC idea:

Move this entire thread to Accurate Reloading. Then stand back.

Bama Steve

July 30, 2010, 20:56

The inability to discern here is disturbing.

Damn near all y'all are full of it because you cannot nor will not "see" outside the sphere you exist within.

My Petri-dish runneth over with stupid that passes for intelligence.

Step back from this planet mentally and take a hard introspective look at it.

If you are unable to do that - then, well you might be a big part of the problem.

This place is just a test with specific rules . . .

cpd109

July 30, 2010, 21:17

Originally posted by John Culver
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ should give you a good idea.

Or you can continue to live with your head in the sand, just make sure its pointed east

Good photo op there. The sign says "Death to all Juice". I like juice. Orange best, but also grape, apple, cranberry, cranapple, etc. Why does the moose limb want to end my juice?

(Thanks John)

chrsdwns

July 30, 2010, 22:03

The Middle East is wayyyy overdue for a good sized conflict. The Clinton Administration was not particularly helpful but both Clinton and Bush kept the lid on things.

I think Obama is driving the region to conflict with his policies.

Bama Steve

July 31, 2010, 09:43

Probably a "Closet" 12'er as well . . .

cpd109

July 31, 2010, 11:17

Originally posted by Bama Steve
Probably a "Closet" 12'er as well . . .

Good point!

"chrsdwns: The Middle East is wayyyy overdue for a good sized conflict. The Clinton Administration was not particularly helpful but both Clinton and Bush kept the lid on things.

I think Obama is driving the region to conflict with his policies. "

What policies? He HAS policies? Really?

I think he needs some policies but don't know of any.

Ahhh, the Obama Doctrine. What could that consist of? Bowing when bowed to? Barry is such a stooge there HAS to be someone else pulling his strings. Like the evil telepromter of the POTUS maybe?

martin35

July 31, 2010, 12:43

My values are deeply rooted in my childhood learning, Obama's momma gave him a foundation thought process that is radical and foreign to what is traditional, she found a attraction in the exotic and replicated the exotic,,,, or she was such a dog she got lonesome on Saturday night and we got the result.
When I say stuff like that I miss DABTL, he could validate parking and opinions.

Bama Steve

July 31, 2010, 18:51

Originally posted by martin35
I miss DABTL

You are slipping . . .

cpd109

July 31, 2010, 21:52

Originally posted by Bama Steve

You are slipping . . .

I think it's a lot worse than that.

Bama Steve

August 01, 2010, 01:02

Originally posted by cpd109
I think it's a lot worse than that.

What is?

Martin's typographical error or the focus placed upon it?

Yeah, I know - I started it but I can forgive him for it but, I will not be a part of the pile-on.

All Y'all - shift your _shit_ at this point - back to the OP; "Lets kill Iranians" . . .

:biggrin:

longhair51

August 02, 2010, 13:38

Originally posted by juanni
The Iranians are decades away, if ever from "mushroom clouds to appear over a few of our major cities". :rolleyes:
....they are not stupid and know it would be their extermination.
...............juanni
I don't see any mushroom clouds in the future, as much as the use of dirty bombs....easy to make and transport, darn near foolproof to utilize, and used near certain strategic areas will render many necessary areas unusable for just a "few" years.

As you know, our economy/infrastructure actually runs on a very thin rope. If the rope breaks in a few places, the outcome will far exceed the effort.

As far as Iran is concerned, they can outfit and supply their surrogates as they are now, to accomplish this. They can still maintain their "plausible deniability".

Enquiring Minds

August 05, 2010, 03:05

The rule of the Iranian mullahs (and their lay toadies like Mahmoud Ahmadinejad) is drawing to a close. Their very progressive baby-boom is coming of age, and they ain't down with the burkas nor duh 5 prayers per diem bullsheet, no dey surely ain't.

If we can just keep the Zionist looney-tunes in USrael from UNnecessarily starting WW3, most of us will live to see Iran become the most secular and Western-leaning major nation in that part of the world. Best of all, it will be a native, authentic, and democratic secularism, and not a repressive dictatorial one "installed" by the CIA. :wink:

Just want to add the usual disclaimer, so no one reports me to the ADL or Morris Dees:

Iran = BAD, Israel = GOOD... E-I-E-I-O... yep, it's just that simple... Sean Hannity said so. :tongue:

cpd109

August 05, 2010, 04:16

Originally posted by juanni

Why is that YOU can not answer a simple specific question, but instead provide a link to someone else's thoughts and opinions that probably doesn't even address the question I asked of YOU?

I asked YOU!.
Are YOU incapable of supporting your own opinions and answering a simple question?

I will try one last time asking YOU.
................juanni

Did you read the religion of peace website? 15,781 jihad attacks since 9/11. That's a lot, even if worldwide.
If they all started attacking relentlessly, the world would be alarmed and attack any moose limb they could find. By attacking in each region upon occasion, apathy sets back in. Do you care about a moose limb attack in Times Square, your local library or France more? It's all relative to your terms of too close. Also, regarding your statement about why aren't all moose limbs attacking as soon as they can carry a vest, the same reason we didn't draft 10 year olds- they need to mature a little more. In the moose limb case, they need to understand why they need to kill other people who are not moose limb.

What was the question again?

juanni

August 05, 2010, 06:15

Originally posted by cpd109

What was the question again?

Thanks for clarifying why you and your ilk are unwilling or unable to answer a simple specific question. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Perhaps if alternate between reviewing the question and your "answer" you will come to realize the lack of connection between the two.

....................juanni

martin35

August 05, 2010, 06:23

I miss DABTL The intended context was as the instigator of provocative debate, he drew flies like stink on a well known article.,, besides being a turd in the punch bowl. He was a elusive drone target that made making hits fun.

I find it oddly self defeating that our religious tolerance does not see the the long stated intolerant intent of the Islamic religion and the militant proselytizing that emerges with regularity through out history, The American Indians had to live on reservations with total regulation the Mormons had to be isolated in a desert but we now elect a admirer of the religion,.