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jshema
July 21, 2010, 01:21
Just picked up an S&W model 60 and was wondering if any of you kind gents could enlighten me as to when it was made. Serial number is R314xxx, it has a non pinned barrel. Was also wondering if these are rated for +P ammunition or not. Thanks in advance guys.

BUFF
July 21, 2010, 07:43
I am at work and my S&W books are at home so no help with the date. I'll look it up later if no one else finds it first.

S&W has rated the Model 60 for Plus-P sometimes and not other times, even while the gun stayed the same. The steel frame J frame S&W's are stout little guns. I bought my first in 1982 (still have it), carried it as a back-up gun at work and shot it a lot, both with factory Plus-P ammo and handloads that replicated them. It got probably 5,000 rounds through it before I got a lighter Model 642 as a replacement.

Plus-P doesn't bother them at all. The way my aluminum frame M-642 is also holding up, it doesn't bother them, either.

With small grips, these fiveshooters aren't pleasant to shoot with big ammo. Normally, the shooter tires of it long before the gun shows any sign of distress.

BUFF
July 21, 2010, 20:09
Book says, 1982.

The S&W Model 60 was the first firearm made of stainless steel.

jshema
July 21, 2010, 23:27
Thank you very much sir, it is much appreciated.

FUUN063
July 22, 2010, 01:01
I believe that the "R" prefixed serial numbers were the earlier ones, unless someone else can tell us different. Mine is an early "R" numbered gun and it has digested it's fair shair of Plus P's, but mostly standard .38's and handloads. It is my daily off duty gun and sometimes goes undercover. Even though I prefer the 442 model anymore as it has no visible/exposed hammer and it's way lighter. It, too, has munched on a few Plus P's.

Leland:D

W.E.G.
July 22, 2010, 07:06
This came with my off-duty piece purchased in 1985.


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/SW%20Model%2060/model60manual.jpg

BUFF
July 22, 2010, 10:36
According to Roy Jinks' "History of Smith & Wesson" (Jinks is the factory historian), the Model 60's serial numbers started in 1965 with a 6 digit number with no letters, beginning with 401754, and were numbered in the same s/n series as the other J frame revolvers. They went up to 712250 in 1969, when the R series of numbers began at R1, when the feds required that manufacturers not use any of the same serial numbers twice. Prior to that, it was possible that 2 or 3 S&W handguns, made on different size frames in different eras, could have the same serial number and the feds wanted to stop this.

The R series of serial numbers was used from 1969 to 1983, on just the Model 60, and on the first 902 Model 651's (a J frame, stainless steel, 4 inch, adjustable sight "Kit Gun" chambered in .22 WMR).

The Model 60 I bought new in 1982 has a s/n of R3058XX. Others I bought later all have the 3 letter, 4 digit scheme.

In 1980, S&W began using a 3 letter, 4 digit serial number (AAA1111, for example) sequence for their firearms. It took until 1983 for it to be used on all of their guns.

That is probably a lot more than you wanted to know.

W.E.G.
July 22, 2010, 12:39
Originally posted by BUFF


In 1980, S&W began using a 3 letter, 4 digit serial number (AAA1111, for example) sequence for their firearms. It took until 1983 for it to be used on all of their guns.




That's interesting to know.

I always thought my 686 was numbered "AFRO 428"

But, according to that rule, the number is "AFR 0428"

I'm a little bit disappointed.

BUFF
July 22, 2010, 14:10
Yeah, but it be stylin' yo.

FUUN063
July 22, 2010, 17:10
You oughta chrome it.

SWOHFAL
July 24, 2010, 20:01
Originally posted by W.E.G.



That's interesting to know.

I always thought my 686 was numbered "AFRO 428"

But, according to that rule, the number is "AFR 0428"

I'm a little bit disappointed.

Pimp gun.

Hoot G
July 25, 2010, 00:40
R314xxx

R300801-R329000 made 1982.
Same year they quit pinning the barrels.

Combat
July 29, 2010, 19:19
Only thing better than owning one Mod 60 is owning two.:p http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/pp60/combat10/JeffsSWs092008012.jpg

Retired Bum
July 29, 2010, 20:15
My oldest Model 60 has serial number R166X. Purchased it new back in 1970 and used it for a daily CCW until I replaced it with a Model 640 Centennial. Still have the little blaster. It now does duty as a night stand piece.

I've owned several Model 60's over the years. The last I purchased was back about 1996. It is a 60-4 rated for +P with the three inch full lug barrel and has the adjustable rear sight. Fitted it with Herret's Shooting Star grips and had a gunsmith clean up the trigger. This 60 is one of my favorite trail guns. Loaded with Winchester 158 gr LSWCHP +P aka the "FBI Load". It is powerful enough to deal with any two or four legged critter I might cross paths with.

Now if only S&W would make a four inch adjustable sighted Model 60.....

And so it goes.


The Retired One

Hoot G
July 30, 2010, 01:53
Retired Bum, your oldie but goodie was made in 1969.

Neat!

Retired Bum
July 30, 2010, 15:46
Hoot G,

Thanks for the date info on my old Model 60. I found the 60 in a gunshop which had priced it at $200. The MSRP on 60's at that time was $110 as I recall. It was a very desirable handgun as it was the only stainless steel revolver made at that time. I had just come back from Germany and had brought a number of handguns that I had purchased in the Darmstadt Rod & Gun Club. One of them was a NIB Mauser HsC .32 Auto that only cost my $30. The club had about a dozen of them and they were all consectutive numbered.

I traded that Mauser for the Model 60 and gave the dealer $40 boot. So I did okay on that first of many stainless S&W's I've owned over the years.

And so it goes.


The Retired One

W.E.G.
July 30, 2010, 16:24
Originally posted by Combat
Only thing better than owning one Mod 60 is owning two.:p

I bumped up to .357 on my second one.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Model%2060/SmithandWessonMode6038specialmedium.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/pistol%20pics/Model%2060/SmithandWessonModel60357magnumsmaller.jpg

weenlo
July 30, 2010, 21:02
Bought a Model 60-14 in 357 Mag at a auction a couple of years ago for $300. There going for over $600 around here now. Mine is a keeper. Want be selling it. Feels to good in my hand.

canman
August 08, 2010, 23:27
I've got one, looks like the bottom one in WEG's post. I think it's a -7 or something like that. Paid 300.00 for it about 2 years ago. It's now my #1 off-duty/CCW/backup gun. Nothing like a revolver to say "reliable", and 5 rounds of 158gr to say "end of the threat."

Canman

SWOHFAL
August 10, 2010, 06:54
Originally posted by canman
I've got one, looks like the bottom one in WEG's post. I think it's a -7 or something like that. Paid 300.00 for it about 2 years ago. It's now my #1 off-duty/CCW/backup gun. Nothing like a revolver to say "reliable", and 5 rounds of 157gr to say "end of the threat."

Canman

158gr. is pretty painful for no real benefit over 125gr. in a small revolver.

canman
August 20, 2010, 03:51
Originally posted by SWOHFAL


158gr. is pretty painful for no real benefit over 125gr. in a small revolver.

Painful??? I guess maybe if I were to shoot alot. I usually shoot a few cylinders worth, 15-25 rounds, through it when I shoot it and can't say it's ever been painful.

ppo84
August 21, 2010, 14:47
we carried 64's and 65's with a few 60's mixed in for years. The 60's handled +p just fine for the most part. Qualifying was done from 2-10 yards with the 60. The last year we had them, the dept. switched to Remington ammo and it didn't take long to realize it was loaded hotter than the Winchester we had been using. More recoil, more flash and the cylinder would blister your hand after just a couple of reloads during qualifying. This may or may not have contributed to several older models sending their barrels down range that year and finally pushing the brass to adopt and issue the M&P .40 we have now.

SWOHFAL
August 22, 2010, 05:18
Originally posted by canman


Painful??? I guess maybe if I were to shoot alot. I usually shoot a few cylinders worth, 15-25 rounds, through it when I shoot it and can't say it's ever been painful.

Yeah, it stings and makes your hand numb after shooting a box of 50.

TideWater 41009
August 24, 2010, 18:15
Originally posted by Retired Bum
...Now if only S&W would make a four inch adjustable sighted Model 60.....

And so it goes.


The Retired One

Yeah, and then beef up the frame a little and add another round to the cylinder... Oh, wait...:uhoh:

SWOHFAL
August 24, 2010, 19:01
Originally posted by TideWater 41009


Yeah, and then beef up the frame a little and add another round to the cylinder... Oh, wait...:uhoh:

Isn't that called a Model 66?

Retired Bum
August 24, 2010, 22:51
I like four inch J frames. Got three of them in the safe. An old Model 33 .38 S&W called the .38 Regulation Police. A nice Model 34-1 .22/32 Kit Gun. And a Model 631 .32 Magnum.

To me a four inch .38 Spl Kit Gun would be the trail gun of my dreams. Actually S&W did a few decades ago make about 1000 Model 36's with the four inch barrel and ajustable rear sight with the blue finish. Rare to say the least and seldom seen for sale.

Sometimes I pack a Model 12-3 Airweight four incher. Weights about the same as an all steel two inch J frame. But it gives you the longer sight radius and velocity. But I would trade it in a heartbeat for a SS like I lust after.

And so it goes.


The Retired One