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Temp
July 06, 2010, 14:08
A Colt New Police snubby made in 1905. Found it down at Bud's gunshop and decided to put it back to work. The finish has browned out a bit but it's as crisp as can be. No chips in the hard rubber grips and it locks up "Colt" tight,..beautiful bore and there's no rust or dings anywhere on it.

The only drawback is, it's chambered for the old .32 Long Colt cartridge,...but that just gives me an excuse to belly up to the lathe and make what's necessary to load some up.

Whatever ya do,..do it with panache'.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/newpolicejpg.jpg

sweetwine
July 06, 2010, 14:11
Very nice old pistol :)

W.E.G.
July 06, 2010, 14:22
Temp scores another .32!

Temp
July 06, 2010, 14:26
They're a sickness, I tell ya,..a sickness!

Retired Bum
July 06, 2010, 15:09
I believe that Remington still offers the old .32 Long Colt round. Obviously the demand for such an old and obsolete cartridge is quite small, but ammo can be found if one looks hard enough for it. I imagine that .32 Long Colt would be on the pricey side.

Carrying such an oldtimer might be appealing but if you do, make it a BUG.

And so it goes.


The Retired One

W.E.G.
July 06, 2010, 15:18
I suspect Temp already has brass.

I bought a couple boxes of this stuff.
Aint had a good chance to shoot none of it yet.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=AP32SW98&groupid=92

https://www.aimsurplus.com/EOS/images/product/ap32sw98.jpg

Temp
July 06, 2010, 15:27
I've got some brass for the .32 S&W long, but the .32 Long Colt is a different cartridge.

There's a lot of confusion surrounding the situation because Colt eventually started chambering their revolvers in a cartridge identical to the S&W offering, but called it the .32 Colt Police.

It's a clusterfug until ya figure out what's going on,..but in any event, I think I'll be able to squeeze some .32 S&W long brass down to .32 Long Colt diameter but I gotta make another sizing die. (or buy one for more money than it's worth)

I'll get it barkin' directly, though. I can be a real knothead about gettin' oddball chambered guns shooting again.

It's kinda turned into my "thang", here lately.

W.E.G.
July 06, 2010, 16:07
Originally posted by Temp
I've got some brass for the .32 S&W long, but the .32 Long Colt is a different cartridge.

You gonna have to come up with "heeled" bullets to make this thing work?

Data lifted from Wikipedia.

inrem
July 06, 2010, 16:50
May not be the best choice for self defense (not maximum FPS for your revolver), but I think Winchester makes a run of .32 Short Colt ammo every once in a while.

Temp
July 06, 2010, 17:45
Originally posted by W.E.G.

You gonna have to come up with "heeled" bullets to make this thing work?



Yeah,...but I got that part figured out.

Just hafta make another heelin' die like I did when I started loading for the .41 Colt.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/41colt.jpg

vmtz
July 06, 2010, 22:24
To cool.

Vince

STGThndr
July 06, 2010, 22:51
Well fine Im a sucker for older, more mature pistols and revolvers. That there looks an awful lot like a 4 inch Colt Police Positive .38 I own... Does anyone know what the difference between the PP and the NP? The Positive slips into a jacket pocket pretty nicely, as Im sure this NP does... Nice pic of an old standby...

Temp
July 06, 2010, 23:27
Originally posted by STGThndr
Well fine Im a sucker for older, more mature pistols and revolvers. That there looks an awful lot like a 4 inch Colt Police Positive .38 I own... Does anyone know what the difference between the PP and the NP? The Positive slips into a jacket pocket pretty nicely, as Im sure this NP does... Nice pic of an old standby...

They're similiar,..but the frame on a Police Positive is a bit different.

If you'll notice, the frame on a Police Positive blends down into the trigger guard. It's a later varient of essentially the same frame size.

This one is from 1920.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/positive.jpg

Retired Bum
July 06, 2010, 23:39
I have a thing for the .32 revolver cartridges. I've owned Colt, S&W, and Ruger revolvers chambered for a variety of them over the years.

My hands down favorite is the .32 H&R Magnum. Got two S&W's, a four inch Model 631 and a six inch Model 16-4. Two Rugers, a 6.5 inch SSM and a "Buckeye Special" 6.5 inch NM Blackhawk .32 Convertible. The Blackhawk has a cylinder for the .32-20 which is what I was after.

Own a sweet little S&W three inch Model 31 .32 Regulation Police and a Colt five inch Police Positive .32 New Police.

I know that a lot of shooters look at the .32's with disdain. But they can in the proper revolver with good loads shoot with very good accuracy. Cheap to handload with my cast lead SWC and WC bullets. I can squeeze 3500 powder charges out of one pound of Bullseye with the .32 Long and the 98 grain WC.

I keep reading about the new .327 Federal Magnum but I can't get too excited about it. Expensive ammo and only a small range of revolvers to choose from. And I can handload the .32-20 in the big Ruger to match or beat it.

Love them .32's.

And so it goes.


The Retired One

dirtyrice
July 08, 2010, 00:52
I have a colt police positive. Supposed to be chambered for 32 S&W not the long. Longs will fit in mine but the brass showed signs of over pressure. The NEW police was supposed to be for the longs.

Remington and winchester still make the shorts. A few other companies make the longs. I wouldn't mind another and one in 38 special. Ammo is not cheap but I hear alot of guys reload. I will eventually, I have a good bit of aquila brass.

FUUN063
July 09, 2010, 00:51
I think MagTech is still makin' the .32 S&W Long reasonable. Last I purchased was at the Indianapolis gun show for about $$11.00 a box of 50. I bought 6 boxes. I still think the .32's may be my favorite or at least a very close 2nd to my N frames. I am working on a mint S&W Mod. 31-1 in the matching box/papers from my shootin' buddy. It is a 3 inch square butt, blued and nice. I also have two flatch latch 3 inchers, a nickel and a blued one. I also have a mint in the box Mod. 30 2" barrel. There are also several pre model .32's peakin' out from the display case with 6" tubes on 'em as well. Maybe even a Mod. 16 no dash. These are my favorite models. :love:

Leland

parisofthewest
July 09, 2010, 16:01
Very cool pistol.

parisofthewest

W.E.G.
July 09, 2010, 16:09
Originally posted by Temp
This one is from 1920.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/positive.jpg

Still "current" :tongue:
http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/trivia/blacksnakemoan.jpg

xcpd69
July 09, 2010, 17:43
Originally posted by W.E.G.


You gonna have to come up with "heeled" bullets to make this thing work?

Data lifted from Wikipedia.

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=2927477



Looking at those specs, I see no reason to not rechamber it to 32 S&W Long. Whole lot simpler.

STGThndr
July 09, 2010, 22:53
No offense meant WEG, but.. ummmm... ya gotta cover up yer wimmin-folk!

Temp
July 09, 2010, 23:19
Originally posted by xcpd69


Looking at those specs, I see no reason to not rechamber it to 32 S&W Long. Whole lot simpler.

You gotta be keedin, main. This little revolver has survived intact since 1905 and you're suggestin' that I lay a reamer to it?!!

Lemme tell ya,...lemme tell ya,...looky here,...this is a Ford from the year that this revolver was made.

Would you suggest that somebuddy stick a 289 in it?!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/76794.jpg

xcpd69
July 11, 2010, 06:15
Originally posted by Temp


You gotta be keedin, main. This little revolver has survived intact since 1905 and you're suggestin' that I lay a reamer to it?!!

Lemme tell ya,...lemme tell ya,...looky here,...this is a Ford from the year that this revolver was made.

Would you suggest that somebuddy stick a 289 in it?!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/76794.jpg

Naw.... You kidding?

It'd go like Hell. Go fast OK, but no brakee, no stoppee.......:cry:

Timber Wolf
July 12, 2010, 11:05
Sweet, have three .32 S&W Long revolvers myself. Two Colts, a 2" & a 4" and a 4" S&W. I generally love old Colts best but of these the S&W is my favorite. Scored six 50 count boxes of Federal "Classic" .32 S&W Long off the local gun board a couple of weeks back for $10 a box. Guy had inherited them from his father-in-law but had not gun to shoot them in. I was glad to get them.

dirtyrice
July 14, 2010, 00:25
Thanks for posting that info w.e.g. Odd enough when I first got my police positive I was way out in the country without the internet. We had a partial box of ammo at my grandmas house but I had forgot what caliber it said. So I figured wtf it must be .32 colt, so thats what I bought. The gun shop carried like 5 kinds of .32 . Of course google told me otherwise :uhoh: I shot that box through it with no ill affects. My police positive seems to be just as accurate as it was decades ago. Though there is some pitting under the grips due to how it was stored for so many years.


Aquila or magtech will be the cheapest on the longs. Remington and winchester cost about twice as much.

Temp
August 27, 2010, 10:58
Made a die that swages a heel on Hornady 90 grain hollow base wadcutters,.....loaded them into some vintage .32 Long Colt cases over 2 grains of Bullseye. They look businesslike peeking out of the cylinder of the old Colt snubbie.

It's alive again!

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/wadc1.jpg

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h225/FalMike/spout.jpg

JohnnyMac
August 27, 2010, 19:34
Originally posted by Retired Bum
I know that a lot of shooters look at the .32's with disdain. But they can in the proper revolver with good loads shoot with very good accuracy.

The scumbag wanna-be carjacker that my aunt plugged in the guts with a .32 Police Positive can attest to its effectiveness. Of course, the shock of realizing that he had just been shot by the 70-year-old grandmother whose Cadillac he sought to procure, probably added to the devastating effect of the powerhouse load.:o

JMc

W.E.G.
August 27, 2010, 19:51
Time to shoot a watermelon wrapped in denim.

STGThndr
August 27, 2010, 21:07
W.E.G.
Time to shoot a watermelon wrapped in denim.


-And wearin one of those black leather beanie-things

Temp
August 27, 2010, 22:51
I was shootin' it into a log in the basement until the wife started in on her harpy routine.

Ever since I shot a hole through the cabinet door with a Martini Cadet down there, she's been all nervous and shit,...

Temp
August 27, 2010, 22:57
Yeah,...she start's talkin' 'bout, "You gonna have that damn helicopter flying over the house again!"

I still don't think the helicopter guy knew what house it was or really cared. He just likes to have an excuse ta fly his damn helicopter.

BUFF
August 28, 2010, 01:43
Yeah, women are like that. Tend not to like gunfire inside the house.

Good job on the ammo.

bykerhd
August 28, 2010, 15:03
I was at a little dinky gun show today with very few people attending.
There were at least four .32s there. Including an old Police Positive like Temp's. A couple nice little Smith snubbies and ??? Geez, I hate getting old.
Anyway, there was another old Colt in .22WRF that looked pretty nice.
Too bad my "mad money" is tied up in other projects these days.:sad:

newfalguy101
August 28, 2010, 15:23
Good looking revolver Temp!!

PvtJoker
September 23, 2010, 22:53
Originally posted by W.E.G.
Time to shoot a watermelon wrapped in denim.

Really, though; when is it NOT time to shoot a watermelon wrapped in denim? :rofl:

dirtyrice
September 23, 2010, 23:39
I need to buy another. I like my police positive. I'd like one in .38 also.