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armed1
July 06, 2009, 21:14
Couldn't decide between the not so PC Saiga whore and the Benelli Italian princess, so I got both. Took them to the range and compared them side by side.

Saiga 12 with aftermarket picatinny forend and vertical grip: Using Federal Wal Mart cheapo bird shot and the high gas setting, the Saiga wouldn't run a mag for about 20 rounds. After that, ran like a champ. Used both factory 5 round mag and 2nd generation USA 10 rounders. Was able to fire as fast as I could squeeze and keep the muzzle down without a burp for another 100 rounds. Bird shot pattern at 25 yards was very spread out. Buckshot pattern at 10 yards very tight. This thing runs like a Cadillac with buckshot. Very little recoil from full power Federal 9 pellet. Also ran some Winny cheapo slugs at 100 yards. Printed about 12 inch pattern with factory irons, dead on point of aim.

Benelli M2 with pistol grip stock, ghost ring sights, and Nordic components "+3" extension.

First let me say that this is a beautiful gun. Fit and finish are perfect and the action is so smooth it really feels like glass. The gun is perfectly balanced and very light. It aims effortlessly and the trigger breaks cleanly and has a very short reset. The action is so fast you almost cant see the round feed from the magazine. Its hard to walk away from this gun in the store.

Using same ammo, Benelli never burped once. Birdshot pattern was noticeably tighter and this gun returns to point of aim instantly. Unlike the Saiga, there was very little muzzle jump allowing repeat shot placement like a double tap. Buckshot performance was equal to Saiga at close range, but the Benelli has considerably more recoil with that load. The Benelli has a recoil operated action which takes some getting used to. Its hard to describe, but it feels like the butt end gets heavier during cycling. Solid cheek weld is a must with this gun. Slugs at 100 yards, also about 12 inch spread. This is same a s Saiga and may reflect my limitation and not the gun's. Point of aim was also dead on.

In summary, I like the Saiga because changing mags is as fast as an AK. I also like the idea of a 20 round drum mag and folding stock capability. For sheer firepower, this gun takes it. I'll keep this in my truck.

I like the Benelli because it is a work of art. It is a serious gun for serious shooters. It shoots all ammo well and puts the load where you aim it, over and over without a burp. I'll keep this in my bedroom.

SID325
July 07, 2009, 10:31
Armed1,

I have the exact Benelli set-up as you and love it, work of art. I was a little surprised by the amount of recoil, but you get use to it. Question, on your mag extension what length mag spring are you using?

Sid

Steve in Allentown, PA
July 07, 2009, 17:09
I too have a Saiga. I've worked it over by doing the common pistol grip conversion as well as shortening the barrel to 18" and adding a muzzle brake. I have an MD Arms 20 round drum magazine and a Gunfixer gas plug.

The Saiga is a brutish, caveman-simple combat shotgun not an upland bird or sporting clays gun. With 20 rounds of 00 buck immediately on tap, it has to be the most formidable short range weapon available.

Once I figured out the correct combination of gas setting and which 1911 spring to replace the front factory recoil spring depending on load, it has been 100% reliable. It is my go-to home defense weapon.

My only complaint. I'm eagerly awaiting the appearance of an automatic last round bolt hold open mechanism. If the bolt would automatically lock open after the last round, it would make mag changes much easier.

armed1
July 07, 2009, 20:07
Originally posted by SID325
Armed1,

Question, on your mag extension what length mag spring are you using?

Sid
The Nordic components extension came with a really long spring that you have to trim to desired length. I cut it just enought so I could get 3 extra rounds of buckshot. It wont quite hold 3 extra birdshot though, so ill probably take off one more coil.

gobbler
July 29, 2009, 19:13
Made the mistake of letting my son take my converted Saiga 12 skeet shooting, he had a blast & got all kind of looks! He has about kicked his Bennelli to the curb when he shoots skeet.

gobbler

moonbat60
July 29, 2009, 20:24
I'll never get used to a Saiga, I guess. Too much of an AK for me. Right now I only own a Benelli Super90 M3, and it is all the shotgun I need.

The pump and semiauto convertible is really a blast. You can go either or and have a fully functioning shotgun.

It is a little pricey, but those Italian ladies don't come cheap.

:fal:

Pete

Tsm002
July 30, 2009, 16:33
I love my Saiga.

I still use my o/u for clays and such most of the time but the auto is growing on me. It's definitely no franchi, browning, beretta or benelli but ti gets the job done.

Mine's an early import and lacks a bolt hold open or choke threads. Those are the only two things that I wish it had and those are both things I can take care of if I get the cash and spare time.

Spktyr
August 06, 2009, 16:05
There are a couple of automatic LRBHO devices for the Saiga 12 now, check out the forums at forum.saiga-12.com - most of the people inventing stuff for the gun are over there.

And yes, I have one - probably my favorite long arm. :D