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nebula8080
June 27, 2009, 14:01
** Bottom post has the FN49 pics. **
** Bottom post has the built M1 pics. **

Note the uncut Type B gas tube. Also great example of original Belgian grey paint.


Enjoy

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EX1
June 27, 2009, 19:36
Hello great looking bbl. Is that the dented set of HGs from me if so they turned out looking fantastic. Thanks Ex1

nebula8080
June 27, 2009, 21:02
Originally posted by EX1
Hello great looking bbl. Is that the dented set of HGs from me if so they turned out looking fantastic. Thanks Ex1

They are indeed. They cleaned up real nice and the original grey paint that was on the metal is a perfect match to the rest of the front end.

Steelcore_7.62
June 28, 2009, 16:27
Nice acquisition! I am also in the market for a M1 barrel. I have just about the whole kit except the barrel/gas block.

Cheers,
Darrell

nebula8080
June 28, 2009, 20:11
It is a beauty. I dont know if it will get to the point of going "Bang!" but you never know. Regardless a great piece of FAL history. I'm guessing by the serial number and early everything it was built in 1955.

:fal:

nebula8080
August 08, 2009, 17:47
Some updates... Correct gas plug and pictures of the matching bolt/carrier.

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J. Armstrong
August 08, 2009, 18:17
Great chit, man - thanks for posting these pix :bow: :bow:

jugrunner
August 08, 2009, 21:06
:eek: ... sweet !! ... really sweet !!

Para Driver
August 11, 2009, 06:41
I have a similar barrel, counterbored and threaded for some kind of plug? I can only suspect it was done so the gun could fire blanks? Perhaps it was a prop gun in 'Wild Geese' or something?

Ironhandjohn
November 07, 2009, 13:43
Originally posted by Para Driver
I have a similar barrel, counterbored and threaded for some kind of plug? I can only suspect it was done so the gun could fire blanks? Perhaps it was a prop gun in 'Wild Geese' or something?



The muzzle on my Israeli light barrel is done the same way. It's for a home-made, but very effective, BFA...

Topbanana
November 07, 2009, 13:50
BUMP. SHOW US THE LOWER NOW TOO!

EVEN BETTER... BUILD IT UP NEBULA!!!

nebula8080
November 08, 2009, 18:45
Here are some pics of the entire kit all ready to be built. This will be "bury it with me" rifle for sure.

Note the recoil tube...The stock is machined to accept the flared portion. Also the rear sight peep hole is threaded.

The steel Canadian stripper top is not correct for this rifle, but the alloy belgian one to the left is. If anyone has a steel belgian stripper clip top that they are willing to part with let me know....

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Topbanana
November 08, 2009, 19:38
Originally posted by nebula8080
If anyone has a steel belgian stripper clip top that they are willing to part with let me know....

Someone help this guy out!

I am so happy for you Nebula, this is by far the coolest thing I've ever seen happen! You're one lucky fella!

denny
November 10, 2009, 03:20
EX1 had some awhile back - check with him.
Denny

nebula8080
December 05, 2009, 16:04
Found the M1's brother locally here. Fantastic condition...bore is mirror bright. All numbers match.

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Anyone know what these proof marks mean?
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EX1
December 05, 2009, 16:44
Hello does the FN49 have a crest or has it been ground off. Thanks EX1

nebula8080
December 05, 2009, 17:14
ground off and then repainted......

Squint
December 05, 2009, 22:51
Cool beans, that is the first Belgian issued 49 I have seen. I like black stoving better than the grey but that is a super nice rifle.

EX1
December 06, 2009, 12:45
Hello that is a cool Fn 49 they are hard to find with the ABL grey paint. Now you just need to find one of the Canadian Inglis pistols that were painted grey and used post war in Belgium. I have seen a couple of the Grey paint Inglis pistols but they were usually pretty damn pricey. Thanks EX1

nebula8080
May 01, 2010, 05:46
Well the M1 is built. Thank you FUUN063 for the gas plug and EX1 for the charging handle/top cover.

Last but not least THANK YOU sledgehammer/Randy for going above and beyond on this one. When I unwrapped this I thought there was a mistake at FN and they sent me an M1 from storage. If anyone was on the fence about using Randy for a build I would hope these pictures favorably change your mind.

This has been an interesting road to completion to say the least. I'm looking forward to starting the BGS model "A"!

-- Enjoy :fal:


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ruudje-c
May 02, 2010, 14:55
Hello Nebula ,
Nice pics to see . This is indeed a very nice M1 . A few remarks , the trigger is a later type . This should be replaced by the type 1 trigger . If you do this you also have to change the safety . If it is a true Belgian Army M1 then the original receiver must be marked FAL M1 195? on the left side . These M1/2 are scare . The Belgian Army melts down all his surplus . There are also Force publique M1 's . These are marked with a lion surrounded by leaves on the magazine wall. These are more common .
Something of the FN 49. This was a Belgian FN indeed . These were marked with the coat of arms of King Leopold . Some found there way to the surplus market with the coat grounded of . The dots within the brackets on the barrel are refusal marks Belgian Army . Means that something is seriously wrong . Don't be suprised that this rifle won't cycle anymore . Usually you can find a ring around the gas opening .
The counterboring on the M1 was Belgian army practice . Due to the many cleanings from the muzzle they reamed the bore a little all was ok .
Very good find anyway , congrats .

nebula8080
May 02, 2010, 15:48
Originally posted by ruudje-c
Hello Nebula ,
Nice pics to see . This is indeed a very nice M1 . A few remarks , the trigger is a later type . This should be replaced by the type 1 trigger . If you do this you also have to change the safety . If it is a true Belgian Army M1 then the original receiver must be marked FAL M1 195? on the left side . These M1/2 are scare . The Belgian Army melts down all his surplus . There are also Force publique M1 's . These are marked with a lion surrounded by leaves on the magazine wall. These are more common .
Something of the FN 49. This was a Belgian FN indeed . These were marked with the coat of arms of King Leopold . Some found there way to the surplus market with the coat grounded of . The dots within the brackets on the barrel are refusal marks Belgian Army . Means that something is seriously wrong . Don't be suprised that this rifle won't cycle anymore . Usually you can find a ring around the gas opening .
The counterboring on the M1 was Belgian army practice . Due to the many cleanings from the muzzle they reamed the bore a little all was ok .
Very good find anyway , congrats .

Hi ruudje-c - Thanks so much for the information. Always good to get some first hand information from someone who was in the Belgian Army.

Very observant on the trigger -- the H/T/S installed currently (and painted grey) is a US version for compliance here. I have the original (early) set which was also painted grey. The receiver on the rifle is a US made Type I. All of the other pieces are original and I did retain the original FN applied grey paint. The smith who built this did an excellent job in matching the grey enamel. This is the first I've heard of the counterboring and I am thrilled to hear it was belgian army practice and not something that was done post demil.

On the FN49 you have me curious now.... I considered it such a rare find that I personally have never shot it. I've never seen another here in the US with grey paint. The owner I bought it from said it shot great and he never had any issues with it -- so ??? I think I'm going to have to take it out to the range. The internal's and bore are mint so I wonder why it was refused by the belgian army.

ruudje-c
May 02, 2010, 16:42
Nebula,
About dating your FAL. find on the original FN pieces a figure within a square . The square itself is shown only partly . These are the date stamps . each figure represents a year , the form of the square denotes a quarter of that year . Try to find as many as possible . This give you a indication about the time frame this rifle is produced . The serials have nothing to do with dating your gun . There can be rifles with the same number in another contract . In the latter years FN produced its own serial numbers inside the magazine wall and the costumers serial outside .
If the letter above the EGL stamp is a H then your rifle is proofed by Woit Christophe , working at the Proofhouse from 1938 to 1968. Not much help here .

IanMor
May 11, 2011, 20:32
BTT to make it easier to find. I am scrambling to get the last of my parts together for one of these.

Soon, very soon.

nebula8080
May 13, 2011, 19:17
Originally posted by IanMor
BTT to make it easier to find. I am scrambling to get the last of my parts together for one of these.

Soon, very soon.

I have some extra type A plugs...I'd be happy to help your project if you need one. drop me a PM.

JackA
December 28, 2011, 01:41
Dad gum nice FN 49 with the dovetail for the scope mount,. Never seen one on a 30.06 , just a really nice rifle .

Jack