The weirdest shotgun I ever saw

[biyf]

A friend of mine inherited this. I am at a complete loss. My guess is an Remington 870 with the silliest rifled barrel I've ever seen. Any ideas?

I thought it might be a joke and photoshopped at first, but it's not at all. Any ideas?

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f177/annpipes/guns/IMG_2109.jpg

[biyf]

Also, the guy on the bed is 6 feet tall.

[Illurian00]

If the bore is 'good' you could probably cut two more barrels from it. The 'harmoncis' must be interesting,,,what kind of groups are you getting,,,at 1000yds. ? You did say the bore is rifled ?

Is the barrel pinned, or 'glued' perchance ?

[Barbcue]

i agree thats the oddest SG barrel ive ever seen ..why would someone go so long ?

[Jaxxas]

Does he have a safe it will fit in?

[Outlaw Patriot]

Originally posted by Barbcue
i agree thats the oddest SG barrel ive ever seen ..why would someone go so long ?

So you could put together enough mag extensions to have a 25 round tube mag? :confused:


That is crazy. I really wonder what it does. It seems like its long enough that even 3" magnum slugs would only lose velocity by having a barrel that long.

I would guess to make shot group super tight at long ranges maybe? But you say its rifled huh? Do you know what power scope it has? That might give some idea.


Maybe just because?


Regardless, it needs a freaking bayonet pronto, perhaps a full length sword.

[AliYahu]

IIRC they were some sort of BATF-approved silenced device for bird control in urban areas. I've no idea about rifling though!

Eli

[JAB75]

Its a custom meat shoot shotgun. I have seen guys at open class events wheel out scatterguns with longer barrels than that.

I guess the theory is the shot pattern is concentrated and contained to put maximum pellets in the target. Some would call it cheating.

HTH

-JAB75

[8654-1ea.]

I'd say, with that, you are half-way to the target. I bet the scope is just to see the front sight post...

[biyf]

Tell me more, Jab75. I've never heard of this.

I'm guessing the barrel is rifled, but don't know for sure - my friend is in Ohio and I am not.

[ppo84]

may be one of those "metro" barrel extensions, I've never actually seen one on a gun, but seen them advertised, they supposedly screw in the end of the barrell like a choke tube and extend way out like that. Supposed to reduce noise and increase range/shot pattern or something.

[W.E.G.]

Its just a trick gun for "turkey shoot" competitions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkey_shoot

I tried to find a video for you, but came up with nothing relevant under "turkey shoot."

So, I googled "meat shoot," not thinking what ELSE might come up on that.
Some things cannot be un-seen.

[W.E.G.]

You sure that thing has a RIFLED barrel?

[FAL GRUNT]

That's too funny!

:) Considering most rifle rounds start LOSING velocity out of a barrel after 26"-28" I can't imagine that would do much good.

Be interesting to find out what the heck it is.

-myers

[JAB75]

Originally posted by biyf
Tell me more, Jab75. I've never heard of this.

I'm guessing the barrel is rifled, but don't know for sure - my friend is in Ohio and I am not.

Around here we have what is typically a turkey shoot like Gary mentioned, but the main difference is that more meat products beside turkey is offered. Beef, pork, chicken, etc... basically freshly slaughtered livestock.

The jist is you purchase a shell(s) at the event to be shot at a target at a given distance. Number of pellet strikes is counted and the competitor with the highest number in that round wins some packaged meat.

Meat shoots are generally associated with a benefit of some sort.

I would bet dollars to donuts that the barrel is not rifled.

HTH

-JAB75

[bykerhd]

I think the commercial hunters of over a century back use to use real long barrelled shotguns. Sport wasn't an issue as they were selling the game and wanted maximum range and accuracy.

There is what looks a lot like a long barrelled cannon at a local museum that was mounted in the bow of a duck ? boat for taking lots of waterfowl at long range. I think the bore might have been over an inch. Maybe well over.
No idea how they aimed or reloaded the thing. Cool looking though.

[Gunny71]

I love turkey shoots, never seen a SG like that wheeled out, bet lots of shooters would walk off if it was. Most shoots around here have lots of non-meat prizes, guns, cash, etc.

[biyf]

Thanks a lot, JAB75!

Weg, thanks for your infom too! I was guessing it was rifled because of the scope, but I think you're right - it's a smoothbore I'm sure.

[Outlaw Patriot]

Originally posted by bykerhd
I think the commercial hunters of over a century back use to use real long barrelled shotguns. Sport wasn't an issue as they were selling the game and wanted maximum range and accuracy.

There is what looks a lot like a long barrelled cannon at a local museum that was mounted in the bow of a duck ? boat for taking lots of waterfowl at long range. I think the bore might have been over an inch. Maybe well over.
No idea how they aimed or reloaded the thing. Cool looking though.

You're talking about a punt gun.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punt_gun

I don't think they ever even bothered to aim directly at the birds, they just aimed at the general area and the shock waves traveling through the water would kill anything in the water, just like rednecks fishing with dynamite.

[shlomo]

My money says WEG has it right. The scope is a giveaway that it's a turkey-shoot gun.

Last year they had a shoot about a mile from the house, and there were about four guys there with extra-long barrels (not THAT long, though--these were about four feet) and gigantic scopes you could use to photograph the moon. Two of these guns had some kind of adjustable "trick" choke systems, too.

The reason for all this is that the game was to put a pellet hole closest to the center X in the target at about 35 yards. They figure that the densest pattern, most centered on the paper, is most likeley to win.

Evidently there's a small cottage industry of guys who make these barrels for turkey-shoot fanatics. Some of the techincal details about the choke designs were pretty interesting.

[nalioth]

Originally posted by FAL GRUNT

Be interesting to find out what the heck it is.
W.E.G. got it.

It's not designed to increase velocity, but to reduce the noise in urban areas.

They are quite common with urban pest control contractors, as it reduces the muzzle signature to nothing resembling a normal blast.

[thunderchicken]

I've got a model 11 with a 40" barrel. Always wondered what it was for and thanks the the filers I now know I am perfectly outfitted for an urban turkey shoot!

[Artful]

http://www.dillerdesign.com/quietgun/index.html

http://www.dillerdesign.com/quietgun/img/image001.jpg

http://www.dillerdesign.com/quietgun/img/tomanddeer.jpg

The Quiet Shotgun utilizes the screw in choke threads of a conventional shotgun. For gun ranges, a shortened (9 oz.) version is undergoing tests. This version of the Quiet Gun will allow shooting in areas under political pressure due to nosie.

We live in a more crowded world. As shooters and hunters, we are becoming a minority. Our options are to drive further to hunt and shoot or adapt. I chose to adapt and developed the Quiet Gun.

Other uses for the Quiet Gun are being explored. Rifled slug guns have been equipped with scopes and a number of deer have been taken.

I have developed a 2 oz. frangible slug for the Quiet Gun that breaks into over 600 pieces when striking an object. Ricochet tests have been conducted at approximately 2 degrees to a hard surface to prove that the slug is ricochet proof, even off ice. By using the frangible slug with the Quiet Slug Gun, a safe, quiet means of deer hunting is possible in crowded, sensitive areas.

[michaels]

Turkey Shoot Gun is correct-That custom built barrel cost someone about 1000.00 or a little more.Turkey Shoots in the South Eastern States are a big big hobby.They usually startup in Oct about the same time as deer season.The deer hunters usually don't want to go home after hunting.This is the only sport where alcohol and guns with large amounts of people comes into play.I ran a turkey shoot here in Ga at a beer joint for 3 years and never had anyone get shot.It has to be run like an army shooting range--all shooters watch you lane.

The targets which are 4 inchesX 4 inches white thick paper are setup about 70 feet from shooting post,the target has a cross in the middle,closest pellet to the cross wins.This gun you have would probably rip the guts out of that target,most of them would.
Most turkey shoots won't allow these guns but on certain nights they call the guns OUTLAW guns.Most of the time they will let you shoot this gun against the 26" or 28" shotguns.The reason being most of the choked shorter guns shoot more consistantly.These long tom guns are tempramental,some you have to aim 3 inches to the bottom right off the target,some won't pattern well if the barrel gets warm etc.
Hold on to the gun in certain areas it's worth alot

[biyf]

Thanks, Michaels! I'll pass that info on to my friend.

[Ron Walker]

When I first saw it, I thought it might be a Texas Two-Fer Shotgun, but then I noticed it didn't have the bracket for the fishing reel. Ron

[michaels]

I had to add one more thing,some of these barrels are dead on and you can set the scopes to them to pinpoint accurate-but it takes alot of practice,with a shot gun there are so many different things that can change the accuracy.This may be helpful with your regular shotgun shooting,you may already know this.
If you have 2 identical shot shells and you shoot a target and it tears the heart out,you shoot the next shell it does very little.What could be wrong?Usually it is the wad pressure,the amount of compressing the powder,the more it is compressed the more shooting pressure it has.
The other things that have to be "Mastered with these smoke sticks" is knowing what shell shoots where-A 3 1/4 load of #9 shot you usually have to aim low because this is a good load of powder.Cheap bulk shotshells you get at wally world you usually have to aim real high because at 70 feet they are dropping.
What I was trying to get to before I got carried away,you practice all day shoot 25 different kinds of shells and remember where you have to aim to blow the center out,and you get to the turkey shoot and they are shooting some yugoslavin shells.All that barrel for nothing,my advice for your friend take the barrel off and sell it for 700.00 or 800.00 down here,go and buy a 28 inch with a Hastings .665 turkey choke and have alot of money left over.I have taken a remington express with this choke and made men feel very sad by 12 on sat nite.

[CRShooter32]

Suprisingly, I haven't seen anyone haul a shotgun with a barrel that long at a meat shoot, the longest was in fact a J. Stevens single shot with a 34" barrel, full choke. It belongs to my grandfather, it was his father's.

However, several guys did have 30" barrels that were sleeved, an extended "choke tube" that ran half way down the barrel.

The coolest, however, was a bolt action 12 ga., built on a Mauser 98 action, custom built, at the end of WW2. The guy who owned it inhertited the shotgun form his father, a WW2 vet.

[tracyballard]

OK, is this one of those guns they build to get around the British firearms laws?? Very interesting....I think I might could use one for a truck gun (I have a Suburban)....

[tracyballard]

Originally posted by thunderchicken
an urban turkey shoot!

are you shooting jive turkeys?

[Fn/form]

Originally posted by tracyballard


are you shooting jive turkeys?

lol

I was thinking it was a new Cali legal model.

[jvm]

The heck with the Shot gun.

Is the guy on the bed Tits up?? He looks like he is DEAD!!!!!!!!!

[992]

It is a match gun.You can win a lot of money,if they let you shoot anything like this,but most have rules against anything not factory.
We shot 33 yards with 2-2-10 shells,and the closest to the center of the x,wins. That is the reason you draw your x,as small as posible with a fine point pen,so even not in the center,you can still cut all 4 legs of the cross.
But luck wins more money than skill or good guns.I have seen drunks put 2 shot in a card and one of them cut the x out.
Most guns like this one have lead shot in the stock and mag. tube,to make them more stable.

992

[Story]

Originally posted by tracyballard
are you shooting jive turkeys?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlitbJKaYy0

[MistWolf]

They use that shotgun for hunting deer from stands. When the deer comes by they just reach out with that looong barrel, poke it in the deer's ear and fire