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astroman2057
April 06, 2009, 16:49
I have a Savage 10Fp in .308 attached to a B&C Duramaxx stock-My 3rd rd out of the 4 rd mag continually is pushed out of the receiver prior to feeding by the bolt. 1st and 2nd rds feed fine-3rd ends up being spit out onto the bench or ground. 4th rd is fine-Today I experimented a bit and loaded 2-fine feed-Loaded 3 and the 2nd round kicked out. I am thinking a weak mag spring or it may not be seated in the stock properly

Any thoughts or ideas appreciated!

After this gets functional again I'll ask for help on my 1903 SA mag follower issue.That one has been driving me nuts for quite some time.

biyf
April 06, 2009, 18:00
I have a Savage model 111 in 7mm mag and it does the same kind of thing with the last round, which won't chamber unless you help it with your thumb or jiggle the bolt. I've never had anybody look at it since it's never bothered me much, but it would be nice to fix at some point. The gun has done this since new.

skwang
April 06, 2009, 19:04
is the mag spring and follower in there correctly they will go in backwards

tommygun2000
April 06, 2009, 20:56
My 110 doesn't feed worth a crap either, since new out of the box.

I've tried rebending the spring a couple of times, still messes up. I don't shoot it much but am ready to send it back to Savage and either have them fix it, or have them send me the parts to fix it or send me a new gun.

Stuff like that pisses me off to no end.

Ron Walker
April 06, 2009, 21:08
I have a couple of them, and the only feeding issues I've had was due to what Skwang said. Ron

astroman2057
April 08, 2009, 03:15
Well I played around with it some more last night-Spring and follower are in and seated correctly-If I rapidly work the bolt all seems fine-Its that slow reload w/#3 that kicks out-Here my thoughts or theories:

1. The top of the sheet metal mag is lipped with a slight curve on the left side of the receiver-The lip is too short and/or not curved inward enough to hold the cartridge securely.
2. The first round is stacked on that side BUT the mag spring forces enough pressure on it to stay properly in place.
3. The 3rd round is stacked on the left BUT does not have enough pressure against the mag well lip to remain securely throughout the loading process.

I tried to bend the lip inward a bit but too stiff to do inside the rifle. I was unable to remove the mag box to put it into a vice, appears to be spot welded during assembly in order to secure the well into the receiver.

Remedy for now is to speed load that round(#3) working it hard with the bolt.

Padeep
April 10, 2009, 20:14
Originally posted by biyf
I've never had anybody look at it since it's never bothered me much, but it would be nice to fix at some point. The gun has done this since new.

+1

10FP 308 does the same...




Pdp

Beepy
April 11, 2009, 00:16
is this with the staggered feed or the newer straight feed. The straight feed has a box magazine that is not attached to the receiver at all. I have one of these and it feeds without a problem.

HankC
April 18, 2009, 10:33
My staggered feed had the same problem on the last round until I squeezed the sides of mag box and fixed it. What happened appears to be there was too much free space that allow follower to move side by side when feeding the last round and allow cartridge to jump out of the feed lip too early. Squeeze the sides of mag box reduce the follower side movement and fixed it.

astroman2057
May 30, 2009, 20:23
Update on feeding issue-Midway finally got in stock Savage mag followers and spring ($5.39)-Installed and rifle seems to function properly-Looks like it has a different shape, longer and has more upward force so rounds pop up properly and feed-1 gun problem fixed about 2 more to go on various weapons

ROCKSHUND@aol.com
June 05, 2009, 07:22
Even though my own early 20" 10FPLE has never had any feeding issues, it's good to know that a replacement (and improved??) spring and follower are available (from Midway). I'd like to know the "Item number" so's I can put it on my "Wish List" and include it in my next Midway order.

Don't know if this might have anything to do with the feeding issues some are having with these rifles, but... I always pull the rounds fully to the rear when loading my bolt actions... same principle as "tapping" rounds to the rear of a box magazine feeding an autoloader.

-FNR...

astroman2057
June 06, 2009, 15:02
Savage Arms Magazine Follower Assembly 308 Winchester Long/Short Action
Product #: 427817 | Manufacturer #: 100193

This is what I ordered

Heat
June 06, 2009, 20:52
..now get ready to experience "extraction" problems..I had ALL these issues with my 20" LE 308 from 4 yrs ago..same stock too! Extractor is half the size of you small finger thumbnail..and made of brass..accurate rifle but that problem forced me to sell it once fixed and I now am back with Mauser type actions..nothing beats a big nasty claw extractor and positive round feeding..yum!