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tracyballard
April 02, 2009, 08:02
looking for a good shooter, something to put in a drawer just in case.....how much should I offer for this? The guy says it locks up good and tight, is it worth picking up and sprucing up a bit?

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/6730/smith45a.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smith45a.jpg)

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9796/smith452.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smith452.jpg)

MAINER
April 02, 2009, 09:34
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"looking for a good shooter, something to put in a drawer just in case"

Look no further,....ya found it! :bow:

Fine looking piece! Is it .45 ACP and can it use the .45 Autorim? I'd leave the finish as is, lots of character or is it patina?

Be sure to get all the half-moons he has for it. I think they still make 'em as well. Knew a guy with a S&W silular to that, he used full-moon clips and won money from 1911 shooters beating them to a game of "First one to fire 10 shots wins".

No idea on value, but in that condition it's more shooter than collector. I'd go no more than $400`or $500, but I like good guns cheap! :D

Here's a couple to look at:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/960257740/Guns/Pistols/Smith-Wesson-Revolvers/Pre-1945/1917_US_marked_blue.htm

http://www.gunsamerica.com/981981004/Guns/Pistols/Smith-Wesson-Revolvers/Pre-1945/Smith_and_Wesson_Model_1917.htm

If you buy it, Dump the cheapo Fitz grips for someting more befitting that blaster!

bykerhd
April 02, 2009, 10:14
Cut down 1917 from the look of it and the lanyard ring still on it.
No value as a collector.
I would say $ 250 tops. And that is if it really is tight and has a decent bore.
And you are feeling generous. I would start at $ 175, or less, and try to end up not much over $ 200.
But, that's me.:tongue:

tracyballard
April 02, 2009, 11:03
definitely a 1917, price starts at $250, so I was thinking about going maybe $275.

bykerhd
April 02, 2009, 11:10
If this is an auction or something, read the description carefully.
Historical ? Collectors Value ? If those are what the seller is claiming, forget it. He's got his head up his butt.
It COULD be restored to original condition.
For more than what it's worth. If you had the parts already.:uhoh:

tracyballard
April 02, 2009, 11:41
seller claims it's been sitting in someone's vault for 30 years...I'm really only interested in oiling it up and making a hideout gun out of it...if it shoots good that's really all I need, and I like fake stag handles for some reason. I'm looking for an interesting gun in the $300 to $400 range and this was one I hit on.

bykerhd
April 02, 2009, 11:49
Glad we are on the same page.
That front sight installation looks kind of cobby. A close look would be in order. As well as the straightness and crown on the bobbed barrels muzzle.
Having someone who knows Smiths look over the action for function and timing would be nice. Especially on a 90 year old revolver you plan to use.

fry
April 03, 2009, 14:49
i dont really know. i think you would be able to resell it for 275 if you dont like it.

Bayernwolf
April 03, 2009, 15:18
In this day and age when 38 Special Model 10s are bringing $225 to $275 in the same condition on the gun auction sites, This piece will easily bring at least $325.!!!!

Almost anything on this action can be remedied, replaced or adjusted (timing, lockup etc.) ASSUMING no major faults like cracked forcing cone or bent or bulged barrel (someone DID cut it at one time for a reason, was it because they wanted a shorter barrel or was barrel damaged by over-pressure load or plugged barrel. Who knows? Ancient history so examine carefully)

Great piece of Americana both for what it started life as, as well as an historical era of firearms customizing which we hardly see anymore in handguns.

Hoot G
April 03, 2009, 22:32
Me likee. I'd go $300 if the action's tight.

If you get it, find ammo that shoots where you want it to. I've found that these are very ammo sensitive. At 15 yards, mine shoots to a 4" different POI with 185 gr vs. 230 gr.

Half moons will fit (obviously) as will full moons, rimz clips, and .45 Auto Rim.

Rimz are the easiest clip to use, no tool necessary for loading or unloading, but aren't recommended for serious purposes. I haven't used them enough to have an opinion yet.


I paid $350 for this one, and considered myself lucky. There's a spot flaking on the other side, but not too bad, considering.
It weren't this pretty 'til I shined it up some.

http://homepage.mac.com/hoot/.Pictures/1917/6929webS.jpg

tracyballard
April 03, 2009, 22:39
nice grips! too bad the lanyard ring's gone...

Hoot G
April 03, 2009, 22:50
Originally posted by tracyballard
nice grips! too bad the lanyard ring's gone...

Naww, Gangster/pimp guns don't need no lanyard ring. ;)

But, I guess I need to get one like yours so I can have the Citizen model too! :)

tracyballard
April 04, 2009, 13:48
Originally posted by bykerhd
That front sight installation looks kind of cobby. A close look would be in order. As well as the straightness and crown on the bobbed barrels muzzle.


how about these photos? does it look bad/good? acceptable?

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/86/smith453.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smith453.jpg)


http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3342/smith454.jpg (http://img27.imageshack.us/my.php?image=smith454.jpg)




:confused:

bykerhd
April 04, 2009, 16:12
Nice photos, but I like the look of that front sight and muzzle even less now.
Probably just me.

Hoot G
April 05, 2009, 00:59
I'm not liking the looks of that. :eek:

It could be the angle of the photo, but that crown and sight just don't look so good. Then again, the crown isn't too hard to fix, and if it's to be a belly gun, it doesn't need a sight. Tough call. How bad do you want one, and how happy will you be after 6 months with this one? Depending on shipping and your side of the FFL fee, I think it's gettin' kinda pricey.

Best luck, whatever you decide!

tracyballard
April 05, 2009, 01:11
I'll probably keep looking. I just sold the old gun, I don't have to get a replacement immediately. I want something cool, but not too beat up.

yarro
April 14, 2009, 17:14
I wouldn't pay more than 250 for it as a dealer wouldn't lowball him hard due to condition. It would be an OK gun to leave in a drawer with a couple of full moon clips for fast reload. I had one 10 years ago in about the same shape and I paid 85.00 for it and sold it to a friend that wanted it for just the same purpose as you for 150.00 Mine had a metal finger groove thing installed on the front strap to better fill the hand. I don't remember what they are called, but were a popular accessory at one point. The other thing to remember is it will get harder to sell once demand drops again.

-yarro

tracyballard
April 14, 2009, 17:16
it sold for about $463 on gunbroker.

bykerhd
April 14, 2009, 19:07
Be thankful it wasn't you that paid that ridiculous price for that clunker.:wink:

maxhush
April 16, 2009, 23:10
If you get an S&W 1917, Model 25, Model 23, Model 26, etc., and you reload, I strongly recommend using .45AR (.45 Auto Rim) brass rather than messing with the halfmoon clips.

Bayernwolf
April 17, 2009, 01:30
Yarro
I think you're referring to a "Tyler T-Grip" insert.
I've occasionally got a gun in trade with one on it. Only one I ever thought they made much sense on was a 2 1/2 inch model 19 S&W with 357 full house + loadings.

I DO think demand is NEVER going to go down again in such a way as to ever lower prices on handguns. I turn up an old sales slip now and then in my piles of cra.....errr collectible ephemera! Browning Hi-Power $75., Remington-Rand Gov't 45 $125., S&W model 60 stainless 38 $110.

Ho hummmm who knew????

Heck I sold TWO Israeli heavy barrel FALs for $275 and $325.!!!!!!!