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DSARep
February 20, 2009, 13:36
Gang,

The new mags are close enough now that DSA has decide to accept back orders. Of course you will not be billed until they are ready to ship, and that is expected in late April. The price is $20 for the 20 rounder, and $25 for the 25 or 30 rounders. A little different than our original estimates but we had to make some changes to springs. They are not on the web site yet so this is exclusive info for forum members first. Call to order at (847) 277-7258, and mention my post when ordering. Please leave a few for me!

:D

Thank you!

John

richbug
February 20, 2009, 14:06
I just had a 10 minute phone call with the order girls. Not available, not part number, prices are not right, can't enter in computer... They have to talk to Mark?


WTF?

MBR29
February 20, 2009, 14:35
They are taking order now I think you got someone that was not up to date.

W.E.G.
February 20, 2009, 14:50
Just back-ordered (pre-ordered?) four of the 20-rounders.

Gal on the phone said they are expected "at the end of May."

My original Izzy cocking handle is looking forward to these.

richbug
February 20, 2009, 15:05
I just got through, seems I jumped the gun by half an hour.

25's are supposed to arrive first, then 30's, then the 20s. I got late April for the 25's, Mid may for the 30's.

mistersunday
February 20, 2009, 22:31
I want to get 12 30-round mags.

DSARep
February 23, 2009, 09:08
That is correct, the lower capacity mags should be available first since those will be the biggest demand items. I am really eager to get some 25s in hand.

John

Steve in Allentown, PA
February 23, 2009, 19:14
I spoke to a very nice lady at DSA early this afternoon and ordered five of the new 20 rnd mags. She was very courteous and let me know not to expect delivery before May. We even shared a laugh at one point. Thumbs up for the gals at DSA. Cheerful and professional.

flyboy
February 23, 2009, 23:00
Are all of these new magazines Austrian Steyr?

1811GNR
February 23, 2009, 23:47
flyboy, these are USA DSA mags that are being discussed here. Brand new, Made in the USA! Three 922 compliance parts to boot!

Krunch
February 24, 2009, 10:49
Originally posted by DSARep
...we had to make some changes to springs...

Will separate replacement/spare mag springs be available for purchase?

DSAFAL
February 24, 2009, 18:07
Hi Guys, I just ordered 6-25 rds and 6-30 rds and I can't wait to get them at the end of May :cry:. I talked to a very nice lady named Sherry, She was very helpful.

John, thanks for the heads up man, I really appreciate it.

DSARep
February 25, 2009, 08:45
I am not sure on spares for these mags at this point. The main focus is to get them out before any new ban, so expect all components to go into complete mags for the time being. Right or wrong, we all feel like the clock is ticking towards another AWB. Remember DSA is base outside of Chicago and knows Barak very well from past experience.

:(

John

mistersunday
February 25, 2009, 23:04
I ended up ordering 14 30-rounders. I promise they will immediately go on sale for original retail price, as long as they are new, once the c-mag for the fal comes out.

W.E.G.
February 25, 2009, 23:11
Originally posted by mistersunday
I ended up ordering 14 30-rounders. I promise they will immediately go on sale for original retail price, as long as they are new, once the c-mag for the fal comes out.

What is a "c-mag?" :confused:

mistersunday
February 26, 2009, 00:19
I suppose it's a proprietary name. It's a product made by the Beta company, it has the two drums that come out on each side of the mag well. Check them out at www.betaco.com.

W.E.G.
February 26, 2009, 00:32
Ohhhhh.... THAT "c-mag"

too much for me.

DSAFAL
February 26, 2009, 00:41
Man, for the price of that C-Mag, I'd just order 15 - 30 rounders from DSA, cheaper and lighter, besides, it's just not practical in a live or dead situation, JMHO. :fal: all the way!!!

mistersunday
February 26, 2009, 00:46
Yeah. It's pretty much all about aesthetics, and having something nobody else does, and not having to reload or change mags for 100 rounds, and being able to leave it fully loaded without ever worrying about it failing. That's pretty much it.

DSAFAL
February 26, 2009, 00:50
Mistersunday, if you ever get one, please post some pics, they look pretty cool, but it's expensive and they say on the website that there's a 6 months waiting period, I hope nothing happens before then. ;)

mistersunday
February 26, 2009, 00:54
I shot 'em an e-mail asking what they thought about how easy it would be to replace the M14/ M1A mag body with a FAL mag body. If they won't do it, I will.

Dirt1042
March 15, 2009, 19:57
Mistersunday, you'd have to wear a weight lifter belt to lug that puppy around:D

mistersunday
March 17, 2009, 16:22
Yeah. I'm a pretty big ole boy as it is. The exercise won't hurt me. I have an SA58B21CM with a PRS stock and 8X- 26X 50 Predator from Horus that packs into a Pelican case with several loaded mags, and that is something you could throw your back out with if your not careful.

kfranz
March 17, 2009, 18:46
Originally posted by mistersunday
Yeah. It's pretty much all about aesthetics, and having something nobody else does, and not having to reload or change mags for 100 rounds, and being able to leave it fully loaded without ever worrying about it failing. That's pretty much it.

If you haven't used them yourself, ask around on boards where guys have used Beta mags for real. I'm not one of them, but I've read enough to doubt your "ever worrying about it failing."

mistersunday
March 18, 2009, 09:19
I bought my friend a c-mag for his ar for christmas a few years back. He always keeps it loaded, and has never had any problems with it. I'm not doubting what you say, but other than some kind of traumatic damage I don't see how one could go wrong. But I will take your advice and check it out.

jugrunner
March 22, 2009, 16:09
DSA FAL Mags ... too cool !!

I'm in on several ... :D

SUiTOR
March 26, 2009, 01:06
Placed an order earlier today for two 30rd, two 25rd, and 3 more 20rd mags.

Wish I could get more, but I'm down a pretty penny after my new fully loaded SA58.

DSA said I should expect the mags to ship at the end of May/beginning of June and allow up to two weeks for shipping.

John Culver
March 27, 2009, 18:20
Any idea how many of these have ben ordered so far (just out of curiosity)

mcmikey66
April 08, 2009, 00:17
Is the pre order offer still available? the ladies on the phone tell me they need a part number and know nothing about it. how do I remedy this?thanks for any help you can give me!

DSARep
April 08, 2009, 07:34
We have hired some new staff, so that is probably the issue. I will pass that along to the boss. Please try again later today or Thursday.

Thanks!

John

Pistolwiz
April 08, 2009, 15:47
Ordered 10x 30 rd this AM. Thanks for the heads up John!

texastac
April 20, 2009, 11:33
Way to go DSA
DSA rocks, 20/25/30 round mags for 25$ that is great, I hope this straigtens out all the (mag price hikers), I ordered 12 and they say May or June
FAL FILES ROCKS
DSA ARMS ROCKS

texastac
April 20, 2009, 11:41
Way to go DSA
DSA rocks, 20/25/30 round mags for 25$ that is great, I hope this straigtens out all the (mag price hikers), I ordered 12 and they say May or June
FAL FILES ROCKS
DSA ARMS ROCKS

Ned Flanders
May 03, 2009, 03:04
Where are the pics of the 25 rounders? Pics of any? It's time(past due) for pics.

DSARep
May 04, 2009, 12:28
Nothing new yet. I will post info here as soon as I get anything new.

John

DSARep
May 07, 2009, 07:31
I am told we are now looking at late May on these. I should get demo samples at some point and will post pics when that happens.

John

ruf
May 12, 2009, 14:04
Ordered a bunch of 20, 25 and 30s. Just wanted to know if the 25's and/or 30's will have a curved profile to accommodate the cartridge geometry stack up? Or will they all be straight?

BruceS
May 13, 2009, 21:14
Originally posted by ruf
Ordered a bunch of 20, 25 and 30s. Just wanted to know if the 25's and/or 30's will have a curved profile to accommodate the cartridge geometry stack up? Or will they all be straight?

A picture of 30 round straight mag is in another post about the new mags on page 2.

ruf
May 14, 2009, 18:11
Ugh. I knew I saw a pic of them somewhere... Thanks for the reminder.

Are the curved 30rd mags still available?

BruceS
May 14, 2009, 19:48
That, I do not know.

nwobhm
May 14, 2009, 20:34
Originally posted by ruf
Ugh. I knew I saw a pic of them somewhere... Thanks for the reminder.

Are the curved 30rd mags still available?

No

ruf
May 15, 2009, 14:03
Boo hoo. Guess I'll have to put up a WTB. I'd like to have one or two to compare. Maybe someone will be willing to unass a couple when the new DSA's are more readily available.

copenhagen
May 27, 2009, 13:51
I just ordered 6/20s and 2/30s. I was told they are expected to ship at the end of July.

W.E.G.
May 27, 2009, 14:18
last days of may... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGpwFbqJOWM)

richbug
May 28, 2009, 06:34
Originally posted by copenhagen
I just ordered 6/20s and 2/30s. I was told they are expected to ship at the end of July.

Good thing I don't actually need them...

copenhagen
May 28, 2009, 14:34
Some of us do need them though. I just bought my first FAL a couple weeks ago. It was like pulling teeth to get the dealer to find the mag it came with. Went to a gun show and no FAL mags. Now I have them back ordered from DSA and Bushmaster.

BigWiskey
May 28, 2009, 19:34
About 1 month ago, I bought 10 new 20 round Styer mags at a decent price off of Gunbroker.com. Lots of new IMI FAL mags on gunbroker right now. If you want Styer FAL mags, again gunbroker, but you pay alittle more.

When DSA is able to fill orders for 30 rounders, I'll probably order a few.

BigWiskey

copenhagen
May 29, 2009, 08:50
I know Magazines are available on GunBroker- but I have had a bad experience purchasing private party online before, so I like to stick with reputable companies. In your opinion, what are the best FAL Magazines? I figured DSA's would be right up there. Other than the post election crunch, I have been quite impressed with this company, and their beautiful little carbine sitting in my safe.

BruceS
May 29, 2009, 18:50
Numrich Gun Parts has new mags @ $19.95, used @ $12.95.

www.e-gunparts.com

101ABN327
June 01, 2009, 20:09
Is there a pic of these receivers or are they still on the drawing board???

101

richbug
June 02, 2009, 06:19
Originally posted by 101ABN327
Is there a pic of these receivers or are they still on the drawing board???

101

I thought this thread was about magazines... Damn, I'm in the wrong line.:D

101ABN327
June 02, 2009, 21:28
Originally posted by richbug


I thought this thread was about magazines... Damn, I'm in the wrong line.:D

It is, my mistake. I had the wrong item on my mind when I was responding...

richbug
June 03, 2009, 06:47
Originally posted by 101ABN327


It is, my mistake. I had the wrong item on my mind when I was responding...

Sorry, just having some fun at your expense.

82ndRecon
June 03, 2009, 11:13
WEG...thanks for posting the link to "Last Days in May" Great tune, Great Band. Been to many moons since I listened to one of their tunes. Always dug BOC.

WyattEarp77
June 05, 2009, 11:30
I called to cancel my mag order. They told me to expect mags to ship late August.

copenhagen
June 05, 2009, 16:44
Thank you!! More Magazines for US!!!

101ABN327
June 05, 2009, 21:42
What do these mags look like???

W.E.G.
June 05, 2009, 22:38
Originally posted by WyattEarp77
I called to cancel my mag order. They told me to expect mags to ship late August.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/humor/HaroldHeddwhatmonth.jpg


...but which August???

Hebrew Battle Rifle
June 06, 2009, 12:29
Originally posted by copenhagen
Thank you!! More Magazines for US!!!

Yeah, how so?

copenhagen
June 07, 2009, 20:21
Yeah, how so?

Welp, if you think about it, the more people who cancel, the more orders of those who did not cancel should in theory be filled.

SUiTOR
June 08, 2009, 00:25
so wtf is going on with these mags? any official word?

i called and placed an order for 7 mags back in March. Looking at my online DSA account, that order is nowhere to be found. All my other items are, however listed and accounted for.

DSArep, any theories? I hope it's not general, internal DSA negligence.

...I'm guessing it's because Nicole wasn't taking my order this time.

DSARep
June 08, 2009, 08:39
My understanding is they are working on spring issues to make sure these have the best ones available. DSA is determined not to ship them until they are completely reliable regardless of load, storage, etc.

John

SUiTOR
June 08, 2009, 15:42
yes, but would this be the reason why my order is not showing up on my account? I'm just looking for assurance.

EDIT: I called, my order is accounted for. I was also told that the mags should be ready for shipment by the end of this month.

Rik
June 09, 2009, 23:27
John, you have any pics of the boxes yet?

I would love to see the 20, 25, and 30 right next to each other.

Or an old 20rd box next to a new 25rd box.

101ABN327
June 10, 2009, 21:04
Are there pics of these magazines or is this vaporware???

richbug
June 11, 2009, 10:23
Originally posted by 101ABN327
Are there pics of these magazines or is this vaporware???

There were pictures of the flats a while ago.

101ABN327
June 11, 2009, 19:49
Originally posted by richbug


There were pictures of the flats a while ago.

Is that it? Pictures of flats and taking pre payment for finished product? That smacks of ORF...:rolleyes:

tuck0411
June 12, 2009, 16:23
Pics in this thread:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=247679

Krunch
June 17, 2009, 16:29
Originally posted by W.E.G.
last days of may... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGpwFbqJOWM)

Tired of waiting... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz64hWng2vM)

rubicon923
June 18, 2009, 05:27
Originally posted by copenhagen
Thank you!! More Magazines for US!!!

Thanks to all that will be beta testing these mags (assuming they ever make it into production).

Rik
June 19, 2009, 10:17
I still would like to see a comparison of the boxes.

Prototypes will do just fine. Surely there are prototypes of these things around somewhere in the DSA compound.

DSARep
June 22, 2009, 07:54
I will get samples early and will post a complete write-up including gratuitous shots of my SA58s.

:D

John

Alpha_Maverick
June 28, 2009, 20:25
Are they still gonna be $20 for the 20s, as per the original post?

(translation: can you keep the first post updated with the most current info?)

DSARep
June 29, 2009, 07:51
I will start a new thread when I have samples and put the most up to date info in that one. At that point they should be close to shipping. I have not heard about any price changes.

Thanks!

John

Panzer Bane
June 29, 2009, 16:36
Alright!
It seems our wait is paying off...
I am especially interested in getting a couple 30 rounders.
D

tracyballard
June 29, 2009, 16:46
I'd love to order a couple of 25 rounders. I'll keep waiting and hope to see them soon...

DSARep
July 09, 2009, 08:05
I am told we have 4000 bodies (20s and 25s) out to the finishing company at this time. They will then return to us for final assembly, so 3-4 weeks out before they are ready to be sold. We are still working on the 30 rounders to make sure the springs are strong enough to support a full load of ammo with heavy bullet weights. I will post pictures here as soon as I get test samples.

Thank you!

John

W.E.G.
July 09, 2009, 09:09
All your US-built mags are belong to us! :D

mcmikey66
July 09, 2009, 10:55
patiently awaiting the 25's

MBR29
July 10, 2009, 08:56
25s are first and there sweet

mcmikey66
July 23, 2009, 21:54
lest we forget!

millerphys
July 24, 2009, 18:00
We are standing buy for being 30 rounded.

BigWiskey
July 26, 2009, 12:54
DSA Rep:

Are the new DSA mags going to have round count holes in the back like the Styer mags?

Speaking for myself, I'd like to see this feature on your new mags.

Thanks,

BigWiskey

Psychomonkey
August 05, 2009, 22:49
I believe they will be projected to ship in mid September......

Vorpal_weapon
August 10, 2009, 15:12
Waiting for 25s - cool!

CTW
August 17, 2009, 15:46
I called today to check my order. They confirmed it and said that they have the mags in and mine would probably ship within the next two weeks. Fingers are crossed!

jjjxlr8
August 19, 2009, 15:51
Originally posted by CTW
I called today to check my order. They confirmed it and said that they have the mags in and mine would probably ship within the next two weeks. Fingers are crossed!

Don't hold your breath!

Let us know when you actually receive them.

Thanks!

DSARep
August 29, 2009, 09:08
The latest word is the mags have been switched to using a metal follower while the plastic ones are still being perfected. DSA wants to be sure the mags are completely reliable at all capacities. The first mags have gone through thousands of rounds in testing with exceptional results. They should be shipping soon, and I will have some early samples to post pics. DSA appreciates everyone's patience. The boss wants the mags to work right, and won't ship any until they meet his expectations!

Thank you!

John

fal fiend
August 30, 2009, 13:38
Do u think you;ll have some for the KCMGS in ky ?

W.E.G.
August 30, 2009, 13:59
Metal Mags!!!!

Metal Followers!!!!


Can I get an AMEN?!!!

nwobhm
August 30, 2009, 14:05
Originally posted by W.E.G.
Metal Mags!!!!

Metal Followers!!!!


Can I get an AMEN?!!!

I hope they stick with the metal too. Hope mine come with metal.

richbug
August 30, 2009, 15:53
Originally posted by nwobhm


I hope they stick with the metal too. Hope mine come with metal.

At this point, I just hope mine come.

jwv3
August 30, 2009, 16:18
No offense intended, but why not stick to the original FN design? It is certainly a reliable and proven design. Just curious.

Originally posted by DSARep
The latest word is the mags have been switched to using a metal follower while the plastic ones are still being perfected. DSA wants to be sure the mags are completely reliable at all capacities. The first mags have gone through thousands of rounds in testing with exceptional results. They should be shipping soon, and I will have some early samples to post pics. DSA appreciates everyone's patience. The boss wants the mags to work right, and won't ship any until they meet his expectations!

Thank you!

John

DSARep
August 31, 2009, 07:40
DSA wants to provide customers with a magazine that has the sorts of features modern rifle magazines come with, such as environment resistant finishes, anti-tilt followers, quality springs that resist setting, etc. Why should the AR guys have all the cool toys?

:biggrin:

John

nwobhm
September 03, 2009, 14:09
Originally posted by DSARep
DSA wants to provide customers with a magazine that has the sorts of features modern rifle magazines come with, such as environment resistant finishes, anti-tilt followers, quality springs that resist setting, etc. Why should the AR guys have all the cool toys?

:biggrin:

John

AR's suck. If DSA were wanting to provide customers with something they desire I would have a very hard time believing any of us here would turn away current production 20, 25 & 30 round aluminum magazines built using the original design characteristics of the std steel mags. It's a no brainer. Building something new from scratch just because the AR guys have them is kinda silly unless you have another purpose for the hole in the side....:wink:

preston1026
September 03, 2009, 15:30
Originally posted by nwobhm


AR's suck. If DSA were wanting to provide customers with something they desire I would have a very hard time believing any of us here would turn away current production 20, 25 & 30 round aluminum magazines built using the original design characteristics of the std steel mags. It's a no brainer. Building something new from scratch just because the AR guys have them is kinda silly unless you have another purpose for the hole in the side....:wink:

No kidding, 6 months overtime is too much. Let's do this already!

DSARep
September 04, 2009, 07:52
Sounds like I may have some in hand as early as next week. The wait is almost over guys, hang in there!

John

nwobhm
September 04, 2009, 20:07
Originally posted by BruceS
I've had ten 25 rounders on order since MAY.
I still can't believe how little they are going to cost.

Take your time and get them right, as you are doing.

The people rushing you are the same ones who will post that "DSA sucks and rushed the mags out before they were ready, just to make a quick profit, blah,blah,blah." if one of the new mags fails to feed some crusty ol' 1970's S.African ammo into some cobbled together POS rifle.

Very compelling.... NOT :|


DSA is well known for quality NOT speed. The point is why reinvent the wheel when you already had one that worked perfectly.

tuck0411
September 04, 2009, 22:51
Originally posted by BruceS

Take your time and get them right, as you are doing.



+1

I would prefer a modern magazine with the improvements DSA is building into them than the same old design, well-proven though it may be. There's always room for improvement even in proven designs and I'm willing to wait as long as needed for it. If there were a hicap mag ban on the near-term horizon, that would be one reason to hurry, but there's not, so let's be patient.

Krunch
September 11, 2009, 11:57
THEY'RE SHIPPING!!! [insert happy dance]

nwobhm
September 12, 2009, 13:00
Originally posted by Krunch
THEY'RE SHIPPING!!! [insert happy dance]

20 or 25? I was the 3rd order for 25's and I don't see an invoice in my email.

W.E.G.
September 12, 2009, 13:27
Originally posted by Krunch
THEY'RE SHIPPING!!! [insert happy dance]

Copy of shipping notice or pics, or it didn't happen.

I got excited yesterday when i got a shipping notice for $89.80, without any description of the product.
Then I ran the math.
Looks like I must have ordered a scope mount some ages ago, and now its finally shipping.

CTW
September 13, 2009, 08:20
Must be getting close because they charged my credit card yesterday for the five I ordered. Woo hoo!

Krunch
September 13, 2009, 11:14
Spoke to DSA over phone on Friday. My order of 20-rounders will ship Monday. Credit card pinged.

richbug
September 13, 2009, 12:39
Nothing on my card

platinumdude
September 13, 2009, 16:36
Originally posted by Krunch
Spoke to DSA over phone on Friday. My order of 20-rounders will ship Monday. Credit card pinged.

Oh so the other sizes haven't gone through yet? I ordered 5 20s and 2 30s but it seems like only the 20s got charged.

W.E.G.
September 14, 2009, 17:23
So, out of all the people who ordered these mags, we only have TWO people willing to post so far that they got shipping notices???

Dirt1042
September 14, 2009, 18:05
Originally posted by DSARep
Gang,

The new mags are close enough now that DSA has decide to accept back orders. Of course you will not be billed until they are ready to ship, and that is expected in late April. The price is $20 for the 20 rounder, and $25 for the 25 or 30 rounders. A little different than our original estimates but we had to make some changes to springs. They are not on the web site yet so this is exclusive info for forum members first. Call to order at (847) 277-7258, and mention my post when ordering. Please leave a few for me!

:D

Thank you!

John

richbug
September 15, 2009, 05:58
Originally posted by Krunch
Spoke to DSA over phone on Friday. My order of 20-rounders will ship Monday. Credit card pinged.

What Monday?

W.E.G.
September 15, 2009, 14:57
FOR REAL!!!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/FAL/DSAmagsshipped_Page_1-2.jpg

Hebrew Battle Rifle
September 15, 2009, 21:08
Originally posted by W.E.G.
FOR REAL!!!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:


http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/rifle%20pics/FAL/DSAmagsshipped_Page_1-2.jpg

4 mags shipped cost $89.80?

DSARep
September 17, 2009, 12:46
Post some pics when you get them! I think you may have actually beat me getting them.

And you guys think I get special treatment!

:biggrin:

John

tuck0411
September 17, 2009, 14:31
So, for those of us who haven't heard anything yet, does that mean we need to re-submit our orders?

platinumdude
September 17, 2009, 15:07
Originally posted by tuck0411
So, for those of us who haven't heard anything yet, does that mean we need to re-submit our orders?

It probably means you didn't order the 20's. Or maybe you didn't order enough where it warrants a separate shipping.

tuck0411
September 17, 2009, 15:11
That could be. I don't remember exactly what I ordered, but I know I had at least one 25 and one 30 and, I think, a few of the 20s. They're probably filling the largest orders for 20s first.

W.E.G.
September 17, 2009, 16:32
new US-Made DSA FAL magazines!

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/FAL%20parts%20pics/DSA%20magazines/DSAmag5.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/FAL%20parts%20pics/DSA%20magazines/DSAmag4.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/FAL%20parts%20pics/DSA%20magazines/DSAmag2.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/FAL%20parts%20pics/DSA%20magazines/DSAmag3.jpg

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd7/rkba2da/FAL%20parts%20pics/DSA%20magazines/DSAmag1.jpg

copenhagen
September 17, 2009, 19:07
W.E.G., I got my 4 yesterday, and there is that odd little notch cut in 3 of them, but not in the 4th one. Any idea what this is about?

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/enj0i2001/DSAMAGS.jpg

RPBII
September 17, 2009, 19:18
The missing notch is for the mag catch. That isn't going to stay in your rifle. Youn eed to get that mag replaced.

copenhagen
September 17, 2009, 19:31
Haha, nice. I thought it might be something of that nature. I hadn't had the time to check any of them out yet in my rifle. I wonder if they will send me one without me having to pay out of pocket to send that back, as that seems to be a QC issue. Do you know DSA Rep?

maxhush
September 17, 2009, 21:21
The two I received today both had the mag catch (I just double-checked).
You could hang on to the notchless one against the day it might be considered the rare early screwed up version (stranger things have become valuable -- witness the counterfit liberty head nickels, counterfit for the next years production, before which the switch was made to the buffalo head nickel, which are just wrong on so many levels :rofl: )

DSARep
September 18, 2009, 08:41
I am not seeing what you are referring to in the above pics. I am sorry, I may just be getting dense in my old age. :D Can you give me more info? I can check with DSA on it.

There are several things that are different about the mag for many good reasons. DSA has been entirely focused on producing magazines that are improved over the originals. Harder steel was used to prevent deformation or damage. The magazines have an enhanced feed lip geometry to be more tolerant of modern commercial ammunition that has different characteristics than traditional military ammo. Obviously the finish is greatly improved. We all know that many military finished FAL magazines rust quickly unless stored in low humidity, and also scratch quite easily. The mag dimensions were adjusted to still be tight fitting after heavy use. DSA did a thorough study of a new Steyr mag and how much it changed as it was inserted many times into a rifle. Using this information DSA was able to tighten the fit up so that after you insert the mag a lot it will not get sloppy. Some military mags have thick paint finishes and fit tight when new, but as the magazines wear the loss of finish material causes them to become loose. The end result is a product improved magazine that shooters will find superior under long term use. Despite all of these changes, the magazines have still been priced at a very reasonable figure. That alone is a great improvement over what some other makers have considered a fair price for their new production battle rifle magazines.

John

richbug
September 18, 2009, 08:47
Originally posted by DSARep
I am not seeing what you are referring to in the above pics. I am sorry, I may just be getting dense in my old age. :D Can you give me more info? I can check with DSA on it.

There are several things that are different about the mag for many good reasons. DSA has been entirely focused on producing magazines that are improved over the originals. Harder steel was used to prevent deformation or damage. The magazines have an enhanced feed lip geometry to be more tolerant of modern commercial ammunition that has different characteristics than traditional military ammo. Obviously the finish is greatly improved. We all know that many military finished FAL magazines rust quickly unless stored in low humidity, and also scratch quite easily. The mag dimensions were adjusted to still be tight fitting after heavy use. DSA did a thorough study of a new Steyr mag and how much it changed as it was inserted many times into a rifle. Using this information DSA was able to tighten the fit up so that after you insert the mag a lot it will not get sloppy. Some military mags have thick paint finishes and fit tight when new, but as the magazines wear the loss of finish material causes them to become loose. The end result is a product improved magazine that shooters will find superior under long term use. Despite all of these changes, the magazines have still been priced at a very reasonable figure. That alone is a great improvement over what some other makers have considered a fair price for their new production battle rifle magazines.

John

The mag on the far right of the picture has no mag catch cut into it.

OK, so the wheel has been reinvented, faster, stronger, better.... So how about the 25's and 30's?

tuck0411
September 18, 2009, 08:53
Originally posted by tuck0411
So, for those of us who haven't heard anything yet, does that mean we need to re-submit our orders?

I take that back - I see my card has been charged, so maybe I'll find these in my P.O. box tonight.

copenhagen
September 18, 2009, 08:55
DSARep,

If you look at the picture I posted of 4 magazines, you will note that the magazine on the very right does not have a notch cut under the stamped notch at the top right hand corner of it as all the other 3 magazines I received had this notch cut under the stamped notch. Evidently this is the mag catch, 1 of my 4 that I received Wednesday was missing it.

See the far right mag, compare the notches to the first 3 mags on the left:

http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m105/enj0i2001/DSAMAGS.jpg

DSARep
September 18, 2009, 11:53
You are right, I am blind. I will let the boss know and please call DSA on this. Not sure how that happened but I am sure they will take care of you.

Thanks!

John

MBR29
September 18, 2009, 12:01
Looks like that one wss not ground

jimmbob
September 18, 2009, 19:54
copenhagen, will ya take $300.- for that counterfeit liberty head nickel mag?

copenhagen
September 18, 2009, 20:43
Are you serious?

platinumdude
September 18, 2009, 23:16
I hear the 30s will be shipped out in October.

platinumdude
September 19, 2009, 00:38
So with this tight fit it takes me longer to switch out magazines. I guess that's ok for target shooting, but for military use, would the shooters really like that? Or will they loosen up after a bit?

Edit. I needed to practice a little bit on removing them. I needed to pull more down than twisting it. Now I need to see how it works at the range.

maxhush
September 19, 2009, 11:20
Originally posted by copenhagen
Are you serious?

I think he was joking, if not....someone needs a mental health day off methinks :rolleyes: :rofl:

copenhagen
September 20, 2009, 07:51
or a roll of duct tape...

Steve in Allentown, PA
September 20, 2009, 12:31
Originally posted by copenhagen
DSARep,

If you look at the picture I posted of 4 magazines, you will note that the magazine on the very right does not have a notch cut under the stamped notch at the top right hand corner of it as all the other 3 magazines I received had this notch cut under the stamped notch. Evidently this is the mag catch, 1 of my 4 that I received Wednesday was missing it.

See the far right mag, compare the notches to the first 3 mags on the left:


Looks like a batch of mags made it through QC without this error getting caught. I have a magazine with the same problem dicovered by copenhagen. I ordered five magazines. Four out the five are perfect. The fifth one doesn't have a mag notch. See my pics below.

You can see the manufacturing flub on the left most magazine.

http://www.guthsville.com/images/DSA_mags3.gif

Trying hard to follow the dictates of the forum I manged to get a piece of my feet in the pic and some concrete but there was no room for booze.

http://www.guthsville.com/images/DSA_mags5.gif

jimmbob
September 20, 2009, 23:58
Cope, heck no, I was just funnin. :beer: ,JB

tracyballard
September 21, 2009, 00:14
they must have got thru on a Monday. or Friday. Always try to buy stuff built on a Wednesday around 2:30 in the afternoon.

richbug
September 21, 2009, 06:55
So has anybody got around to function testing them yet?

Cytoviper
September 22, 2009, 00:46
Not been able to test my 5 new ones yet either, but after reading this thread just check and mine are all good to go.

copenhagen
September 22, 2009, 08:36
tracyballard:

they must have got thru on a Monday. or Friday. Always try to buy stuff built on a Wednesday around 2:30 in the afternoon.

Sounds like Commie Russia. Hello Amerika! DSA? I know we're better than this guys.

nwobhm
September 23, 2009, 17:14
Originally posted by Steve in Allentown, PA


Looks like a batch of mags made it through QC without this error getting caught. I have a magazine with the same problem dicovered by copenhagen. I ordered five magazines. Four out the five are perfect. The fifth one doesn't have a mag notch.


That sucks..... Now GP can't claim it's surplus refinished STG mags.:D

DSARep
September 24, 2009, 07:58
Just call DSA and they will take care of it. I am sorry for the mistake. I would like to say that never happens, but with the last year of rushing to keep up with demand some glitches occur in the system. I got mine in yesterday and am hoping to get to the range this weekend. I have a little expendable .308 available to run and have not had my Para out in a while.

John

DSARep
September 29, 2009, 13:20
I know some posters have said that they had functioning issues hand cycling. Again let me say these mags are tighter for a reason. Hand cycling offers no indicator of whether these magazines will worked when the rifle is actually fired. When live firing rifles using these magazines, DSA did not experience any function issues in the thousands of rounds we have fired through FALs, including a prototype 7 barreled rifle.

Thanks!

John

CTW
October 01, 2009, 11:26
Well I finally got to the range yesterday with mine and I was not real impressed with them. I took all five that I ordered with me. Only one did not jam while loading five rounds in each of them. Every time it happened I had to pull back on the charging handle and let it go foward and it would rechamber the next round. I am gonna try shooting them again in my inch pattern with Imbel receiver and see if I have different results. The gun I used yesterday was an Imbel kit built on an Imbel logo receiver. If they dont work I will be calling DSA. I hope they get em right because it's nice having 3 U.S. made parts with them.

jimmbob
October 02, 2009, 14:00
:confused:

W.E.G.
October 02, 2009, 14:37
Originally posted by CTW
Only one did not jam while loading five rounds in each of them. Every time it happened I had to pull back on the charging handle and let it go foward and it would rechamber the next round.

That doesn't sound like a "jam."

Sounds more like short-cycling to me.

If the new mag is pressing harder against the bottom of the bolt than some old loosey-goosey mag, you gotta account for that friction.

Wonder if all you need to do is turn up the gas to account for the "tightness" of the mag?

jimmbob
October 02, 2009, 17:58
For those of you wondering about the 25 and 30 rd. mags. I called DSA today and was told 4-6 weeks out for the 25 rd. and 8+weeks for the 30 rd. :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

richbug
October 02, 2009, 18:42
Originally posted by jimmbob
For those of you wondering about the 25 and 30 rd. mags. I called DSA today and was told 4-6 weeks out for the 25 rd. and 8+weeks for the 30 rd. :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

They said that in April.

tracyballard
October 02, 2009, 18:44
that's what she said

tuck0411
October 02, 2009, 21:30
Originally posted by tracyballard
that's what she said

I suspect you're responding to this: "turn up the gas to account for the "tightness" of the mag?" :biggrin: :bow:

nwobhm
October 02, 2009, 21:34
Originally posted by jimmbob
For those of you wondering about the 25 and 30 rd. mags. I called DSA today and was told 4-6 weeks out for the 25 rd. and 8+weeks for the 30 rd. :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

I think I'm going to cancel my order until they work the bugs out. I don't need 25 or 30 rounders that come with problems when I have enough surplus 20's to last a lifetime.

jimmbob
October 02, 2009, 22:44
richbug, yes they did. That's why I'm thinking I'll be happy to get 'em just before Christmas-maybe

nwobhm-Exactly why I called DSA and then posted the dates. I ordered 25 of each of the 25 & 30 rounders and don't want to be stuck with junk. I figure I'll wait a good 2-3 weeks and see how it all washes out. If it still does'nt look good I'll cancel and be happy with my 7 30 rd. converted inch to metric curved mags and my 30 20 rd. German ones. It's all good in the end.

:beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer: :beer:

DSARep
October 05, 2009, 07:53
The mags are selling fast, so just keep in mind if you wait there may not be any in stock. The above post sounds like a gas issue to me as well. I would hate to see you guys not buy due to one or two negative posts, then be after me down the road asking "when will the mags be in stock again?" Just don't say I did not warn you if that happens.

:D

John

platinumdude
October 05, 2009, 23:19
I should add in this thread, the two mags I tested out worked fine. but I did polish the lip so it wouldn't scratch the brass. I didn't have to increase the gas, I have it set at 6.5 and I was using soft points.

platinumdude
October 29, 2009, 23:39
Any updates on when the 30's will be out?

jimmbob
October 30, 2009, 10:27
Platinumdude, I called DSA two days ago and the 25's will be out in about 3 weeks. Sound like it'll be awhile yet for the 30's. JB

preston1026
November 05, 2009, 19:39
3 weeks has been the reply for awhile! I'm ready to see them already

prosecond
December 03, 2009, 11:39
Any news? Are any of the mags available?

rubicon923
December 05, 2009, 04:11
Can someone summarize the current magazine situation at DSA?

The DSA website (as of a few minutes ago) states that the Steyr 20-round mags are "temporarily unavailable". Does anyone know when the Steyr mags will become available again?

This thread began with a posting from DSA that newly manufactured mags would be available April, 2009. It appears these mags were not available until September and some were defective. The DSA website says the newly manufactured mags are "coming soon"?

W.E.G.
December 05, 2009, 11:00
Originally posted by rubicon923
...and some were defective.


Were ANY of the 20-rounders NOT defective?

platinumdude
December 06, 2009, 22:53
Originally posted by W.E.G.



Were ANY of the 20-rounders NOT defective?

Maybe ones that you have that you manually sand down the rough edges?

W.E.G.
December 07, 2009, 01:30
Originally posted by platinumdude


Maybe ones that you have that you manually sand down the rough edges?

Those didn't even work after the burr was removed.
There was something definitely wrong with the die for forming those 20-round mags.
Last I heard, they were back to nearly square-one on that project.

Which is too bad... 'cause I think they gave it their best effort.
At least the eventual drying-up of surplus mags is driving them to find the solution at some point.

I think they are keeping their fingers crossed that the 25 and 30 round mags will turn out OK. I sure hope they TEST those mags better than they tested the 20's.

MBR29
December 07, 2009, 10:04
All mods are done and product is back up and running.

5000 rounds thru a couple mags and still going strong we will continue to test but we know NOW what had to be done to make a 50s era semi hand made mag on modern stamping machines without the need of hand filing like the FN made mags did.:fal:

W.E.G.
December 07, 2009, 10:23
Originally posted by MBR29
All mods are done and product is back up and running.

Does this mean the 20-round mags are now available for sale to the general public?

...or are the version 2.0 twenty-rounders still in the testing phase?

MBR29
December 07, 2009, 11:33
Testing 2.0 is over

25 round gets run first them 30 round then back to the 20 round, 2-3 weeks run time on each type.

instr8
December 07, 2009, 19:38
I have 5 20rd v1.0 mags that I haven't even shoved in a gun. In the event those don't work whenever I get around to testing, are they gonna be replaced?

platinumdude
December 08, 2009, 22:43
Originally posted by instr8
I have 5 20rd v1.0 mags that I haven't even shoved in a gun. In the event those don't work whenever I get around to testing, are they gonna be replaced?

Hopefully 2.0 isn't as tight as fit as the 1.0s, and hopefully they have some exchange plan.

MBR29
December 09, 2009, 10:25
Not all 1.0 are bad but if ours are we will exchange them.

Mid Jan all 25rd mags will ship

W.E.G.
December 09, 2009, 11:07
Originally posted by MBR29
Not all 1.0 are bad but if ours are we will exchange them.

Mid Jan all 25rd mags will ship

I bought four 1.0's.

I gave two of them away after they were 100% fail.

I still have two 1.0's that have never been in a gun.
I can only assume the remaining two are every bit as defective as the two I tested.

Do you have FUNCTIONAL US-made 20-round mags available now to exchange for the defective mags?

tracyballard
December 09, 2009, 12:50
Dibs on one of your other 2 if you give them away.:cool:

CTW
December 18, 2009, 15:30
Originally posted by W.E.G.

I bought four 1.0's.

I gave two of them away after they were 100% fail.

I still have two 1.0's that have never been in a gun.
I can only assume the remaining two are every bit as defective as the two I tested.

Do you have FUNCTIONAL US-made 20-round mags available now to exchange for the defective mags? [/B]

[B]I bought five of them and cant get them to run for the life of me. Both of my rifles are built on imbel receivers and the mags lock up real tight in them. Ive tried more gas, less gas light sandind the lips on one and nothing. I hope they replace them when they get the time, otherwise I could of bought some surplus mag's.

W.E.G.
December 18, 2009, 16:22
Got my modified mags back from MBR29.

Cross-reference this thread:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2775132#post2775132

Steve in Allentown, PA
December 18, 2009, 17:21
Read the tale of my attempt to get a replacement for one of the new DSA 20 rnd mags. (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2775176#post2775176)

ormandj
December 20, 2009, 14:39
Originally posted by platinumdude


Hopefully 2.0 isn't as tight as fit as the 1.0s, and hopefully they have some exchange plan.

I am curious about this. DSA - are the version 2.0 magazines going to fit correctly? Surplus magazines drop beautifully, the DSA version 1 20rd magazines nearly wedged in place accordingly to multiple people who've used them.

Fredo Corleone
January 03, 2010, 15:26
I have been away from the files for a long time and I just figured out that DSA is selling new mags and 25 and 30 rounders at that, this is amazing!!! I have not been waiting in anticipation for years, I feel like I have been cheated from all the pain of years of "coming soon" and "by the end of the month". so how many members have taken delivery of mags? I am calling DSA monday to get on the list!

brownknees
January 03, 2010, 16:51
Originally posted by W.E.G.
Got my modified mags back from MBR29.

Cross-reference this thread:
http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2775132#post2775132

So do they work now? Or are you still diggin' out.:confused:

W.E.G.
January 03, 2010, 16:54
Originally posted by brownknees


So do they work now? Or are you still diggin' out.:confused:

Other projects active.

Hope to have an answer by the end of the month.

aezcur
January 03, 2010, 16:58
I think that the DSA magazines still not available.....I want the 20 rounds magazines!! please...made in USA....3 parts compliant :biggrin:

From their website:

''New DSArms Manufactured US Made .308 caliber 20, 25 & 30 rnd mags coming soon''

http://www.dsarms.com/SA58_FAL-Magazines/products/19/1/0

Regards,
Abel

richbug
January 19, 2010, 07:12
According to MBR29 the 25's are to start shipping directly. He has been totally straight with us to this point.

So, MBR what is the news?

DSARep
January 19, 2010, 08:54
He is at SHOT along with several other staff, so hang on until he can get back to you. I will post if I hear anything as well. 25s are on my must have list as well.

:D

John

aezcur
January 26, 2010, 01:18
:sleep: .......:cry:

2li
February 04, 2010, 14:46
Can you update us. Are the 25's 1) working 2) available for order?

Thanks.

MBR29
February 04, 2010, 15:07
We did a extra amount of testing after the issue we had with the first 20 round mag. They are ready to go we are waiting for more 1050 material for the 25rd mag then we will start a large batch of 25 round mags. Yes orders can be placed right now.

2li
February 04, 2010, 16:18
We did a extra amount of testing after the issue we had with the first 20 round mag......Yes orders can be placed right now.


Thanks for the reply. 'its nice to have such good commo response time from a manf. I'm a fan of your product.

Greg

MBR29
February 04, 2010, 16:53
Funny you asked I just shot 400 more through an SAR48 and 600 though a OSW.:wink:

moses
February 04, 2010, 19:41
So could you clarify a little........
Are the 20's ready and shipping now?
I also want some 25 rd'ers
Thanks!

Nodak
February 05, 2010, 19:00
I can't find these new 25 round mags on the DSA website.

Link???

Thanks.

moses
February 06, 2010, 10:03
Go here
















:devil:

Johnny787
February 07, 2010, 01:58
Originally posted by moses
Go here
















:devil:

link doesn't work.

aezcur
February 07, 2010, 02:14
Originally posted by Johnny787


link doesn't work.

Hi Johnny787,
I think that Moses post with a ''non-working'' link was on purpose...:rofl:
because we have been hearing about the DSA mags (20-25-30 rounds) from long-loooooong time ago and nothing happens.....

http://www.dsarms.com/Steyr-FAL-20-Round-Mag---117E/productinfo/117E/

It's been saying ''coming soon'' for months.... I also want the DSA 20 rounds in order to get 3 compliant parts....:(

Johnny787
February 07, 2010, 02:20
Originally posted by aezcur


Hi Johnny787,
I think that Moses post with a ''non-working'' link was on purpose...:rofl:
because we have been hearing about the DSA mags (20-25-30 rounds) from long-loooooong time ago and nothing happens.....

http://www.dsarms.com/Steyr-FAL-20-Round-Mag---117E/productinfo/117E/

It's been saying ''coming soon'' for months.... I also want the DSA 20 rounds in order to get 3 compliant parts....:(

the three parts is all im after. hopefully they can get their act together and ship some of these so we can test/try and if they work, buy a bunch of them.

moses
February 07, 2010, 08:42
Ding! Ding! Ding! :biggrin:

aezcur
February 15, 2010, 00:09
Y?? para cuando??

(i.e. when are we going to get those highly desired US made FAL magazines?):?

Johnny787
February 18, 2010, 14:32
updates please????

richbug
February 18, 2010, 16:20
2 more days and it will be a year since I ordered mine. I gave up holding my breath when I started to turn purple.

jar420
February 18, 2010, 20:12
I would likely give up on these and get some good surplus IMI mags, there seems to be a lot of those out right now.

platinumdude
February 18, 2010, 21:50
I hear that they will be out in about 2 to 3 years.

aezcur
February 18, 2010, 22:32
Originally posted by platinumdude
I hear that they will be out in about 2 to 3 years.

:uhoh:

http://i818.photobucket.com/albums/zz108/aezcur/fainted.jpg

trh53
February 19, 2010, 11:34
It's been so long I don't even remember what I ordered.

SUiTOR
February 19, 2010, 20:10
The three new 20 round mags I received each share the same problem. Rounds will not feed if fed from the right side of the mag. So I can only effectively fire off one round (if I'm that lucky) - so long as they're initially fed from the left side of the stack. Rounds repeatedly jam when chambering - both using the charging handle and using the bolt stop - to the point where my rifle is simply unusable. EVERY round has a chambering issue. This problem does NOT occur when using the factory mag my rifle shipped with.

In short: if it has "dsarms.com" stamped at the base of the mag it is likely defective or severely unreliable.

CTW
February 23, 2010, 19:11
I called DSA today about the five 20 rounders they sent me and they had me ship them back for a full refund with shipping paid. I cant really argue with that.

aezcur
February 27, 2010, 01:15
Hi MBR29,
Any update on the 20 round DSA FAL magazines?
thanks!

CTW
February 27, 2010, 17:43
If it makes any difference the guy that I talked with said that they are concentrating soley on the 25's now and that they wanted to have a quality product this time. They are making sure to work out the bug's etc this time and could not give any info on 20 rounders.

aezcur
February 27, 2010, 21:33
Originally posted by CTW
If it makes any difference the guy that I talked with said that they are concentrating soley on the 25's now and that they wanted to have a quality product this time. They are making sure to work out the bug's etc this time and could not give any info on 20 rounders.

Hi CTW,
Do you know if those 25 rounds Magazines will count also as 3 922r compliance parts?

CTW
March 13, 2010, 21:14
As far as I know the 25's will be fully made in the US counting as 3 U.S. parts.

aezcur
March 13, 2010, 21:27
Originally posted by CTW
As far as I know the 25's will be fully made in the US counting as 3 U.S. parts.

Thanks CTW...that is good to know.
How about the 5 rounds mags? are those also counting as 3 US parts?

CTW
March 15, 2010, 09:02
You know I have 2 five rounder's that I have procured somewhere along the way and dont even know if they count as US made parts. Good question.

goofytoof
March 20, 2010, 08:14
I want some mags! Any word?

Glocker #1
March 20, 2010, 12:59
^^^ +1 ^^^

1811GNR
March 22, 2010, 11:48
Called to update CC on my order today, ETA "looking at six more weeks". I ordered the 25 rounders.
Come to think of it, six weeks seems to be their standard answer...

tracyballard
March 22, 2010, 11:54
like on Seinfeld, when the chinese dude says "five, ten minutes..."?

richbug
March 22, 2010, 18:16
I think I have officially moved into the "I don't give a rats ass anymore" category. If ups shows up with a package and they work... great, if not ... that is just fine too(no offense intended towards the Thug).

I could only hold my breath so long. I passed out, then woke back up.