Heavy Barrels

[davesrb]

Well, finally my collection of heavy barrels is finished. Well, not all I'd like to have, but all I can afford!!
Thanks to all who helped in my search for parts....
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And the whole family out for the afternoon...
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Davesrb

[torquemada055]

How GLORIOUS it is to see a whole family together!!!

And not a single plastic handguard or butt in the the pictures!!!

Simply fantastic looking grouping.

This is worthy of at least a keg!! :beer: :biggrin:

[darkknight9]

Excellent Pictures!

What wood is on the one in the family pic, third one from the top on the right?

[goodorbit]

Very nice collection!

You know, one more would make a nice even dozen. :wink:

[davesrb]

Originally posted by darkknight9
Excellent Pictures!

What wood is on the one in the family pic, third one from the top on the right?

The 2nd from the top right (STG) and the third (G1) are both Blue Monster's fantastic creations. IMHO the nicest wood you can get.:bow:
Davesrb

[tiblow]

That's a nice set there mate!! :bow:

[Blue Monster]

You know, if you adopted me, fed me mega doses of Jamaican North slope Blue and let me fondle those on occasion I'd be your Stock carving biatch. :tongue:

Until then I shall just live vicariously here on the files.

Thanks for the nod bro.

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Blue Monster
You know, if you adopted me, fed me mega doses of Jamaican North slope Blue and let me fondle those on occasion I'd be your Stock carving biatch. :tongue:

Until then I shall just live vicariously here on the files.

Thanks for the nod bro.

Ya know, I've always wanted my own stock carving biatch! Just don't think I can afford mega doses of North Slope Blue.....

Give DunkRD a few weeks and you will see what we are doing with that type "A" stock you made me and the other type "B"!!(Hows that for a teaser?)
I was looking at the fantastic stock you have up for grabs, thinking "I need that...!" Of course, then I'd have to buy another kit to put it on. Then a receiver to build the kit...Ya already did that to me with the Type "A" stock damn it! I got three girls at home! I can't afford that kind of inspiration anymore!!

How is the "magic carving hand" healing up? Ya know, if you'd stop fondling the FAL's so much, you might heal faster:uhoh:
Davesrb

[Lee Carpentieri]

Dave, You need two more to make it a bakers dozen:biggrin: :biggrin: :fal:
Birthdays and Christmas must play hell on your bank account with three girls,wife and 11 fals to buy gifts for.:uhoh: Very nice collection you have going there.

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Lee Carpentieri
Dave, You need two more to make it a bakers dozen:biggrin: :biggrin: :fal:
Birthdays and Christmas must play hell on your bank account with three girls,wife and 11 fals to buy gifts for.:uhoh: Very nice collection you have going there.

Bank account? What's that?:rofl:

Oh yeah, birthdays and Christmas are exciting. Actually I have 2 kids, a 9 month old and a 7 year old step daughter. The reference to raising 3 girls is kind of an inside joke, referring to the fact that my wife is 14 years younger than I am. She's 30 and I'm 44.

Thanks for the compliment on the FAL collection. There are a few more builds in progress, them I'm done. I wish I had started building a lot sooner, as I would have loved to have put together an M1 clone. I was busy collecting WWII stuff during the FAL building hey days!
Davesrb

[Blue Monster]

Hmmmm younger wives, I approve and also subscribe:wink:

[Lee Carpentieri]

What you and BM do, Graduate at the top of charm school classes with the younger wifes. Told my wife I was going to trade her in when she turned 40 about 9 years ago for 2 twenty year olds, Then she reminded me how dumb they are at that age even then.:biggrin: :wink:

[Dunk RD]

Dave , You have one devil of a collection there. Next Batch comeing up.
Ya all stay tuned Ya hear
Dunk RD

[Blue Monster]

Lee it's not like we get actually get l**d more... but the scenery is so nice.

Cheers Dave:wink:

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Blue Monster
Lee it's not like we get actually get l**d more... but the scenery is so nice.

Cheers Dave:wink:

We don't? Oh, ok..that's the story your sticking with!.:rofl: Yeah, scenery is great!
Davesrb

[Blue Monster]

I was trying to make him feel better

[Andy the Aussie]

Dave, either of the long green slings you have on the SLRs come from Pat ??

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Blue Monster
I was trying to make him feel better

Oh crap! Sorry...yeah, listen to BM. I don't know what I'm talking about...
Davesrb

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Andy the Aussie
Dave, either of the long green slings you have on the SLRs come from Pat ??

Yep, they both did.

[Andy the Aussie]

Originally posted by davesrb


Yep, they both did. ....just wondering.... I *may* have had them in my grubby little hands one one point is all... ;)

[davesrb]

Hey guys, bear with me . Here is some additional information for those who have pm'd or emailed me concerning some of these builds...

Blue Monster turned out the fantastic wood on the STG 58 (second from the top right) and the G1 right below it. Fit and finish are superlative. I have 2 more sets of wood from him being built onto kits now, so yes, I think he turns out the nicest product you can buy.

DunkRD built the Imbel with Israeli wood right below the G1. He refinished the wood to that color. You will have to ask him as to how he did it. Might be a "trade secret"!

DunkRD built the Belgian FALO, the Stg58 (second from the top right), the G1 below it, the Imbel with Israeli wood furniture, and the Israeli light barrel on the bottom. Obviously, I am a great fan of his work, as I have 4 more being built as we speak! No, I don't know if he is "the best" FAL smith out there, but his work and attention to detail is 1st rate!

EX1 and Rooster have been the sources of the "hard to find" items.

I built the 1st STG, the parked Imbel, and the Israeli HB.

The camera used is a Nikon D40. I'm just learning to use it:biggrin:

OK, back to your regularly scheduled program!!

Davesrb

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Andy the Aussie
....just wondering.... I *may* have had them in my grubby little hands one one point is all... ;)

Hey Andy, these long slings, are they actually intended for L1A1's or for L2's?

Davesrb

[Andy the Aussie]

L2s (and F1 SMG), but most people preferred them on the L1s to the shorter version. By the end of service here there was no real standards for such things. I found those mixed in with a stack of the shorter slings.

Andy :bigangel:

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Andy the Aussie
L2s (and F1 SMG), but most people preferred them on the L1s to the shorter version. By the end of service here there was no real standards for such things. I found those mixed in with a stack of the shorter slings.

Andy :bigangel:

Thanks for the information. I have ordered the shorter one's so I'll have the correct sling, but I do prefer these longer ones to actually use.

If you ever run across any more Leader stocks PLEASE keep me in mind! Ya know, NO proper gun collection is complete without a Leader :rolleyes:

Davesrb

[Dunk RD]

Hey there Dave
How about showing us some groups shot out of the FALO. I'll beleive
ya if no one else does.
Dunk

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Dunk RD
Hey there Dave
How about showing us some groups shot out of the FALO. I'll beleive
ya if no one else does.
Dunk

Well, I won't have pictures until I get some batteries for the camera, but I have the targets in the range bag for when I do and I'll get a picture up.

What Dunk is referring to is this p.m. I sent him after my range trip with the new Belgian FALO:

Hey Roger, you have built my most accurate FAL ever!! I just took the Belgian FALO out and put i on the bench with rests. Using Lake City match I got a 5 shot group at slightly more than 1.45 inches (best group) second best was 4 shots at just a hair over 1.25 inch..then a flier (my fault) opened it up to 2.15 on the fifth shot.

What was different on this build? The new barrel probably helped, but was anything different with the build, or just luck of the draw?

I hesitate to post this on the forum, as they would probably all tell me I'm full of shit! But it sure is nice to have an accurate FAL!

Thanks!!!!!!

For the record, After adjusting the sights a bit I ran 10, 5 shot groups through two good 20 round mags. The 1.45 inch group above was the best, the rest averaged out at just under 2".

Needless to say, I am very happy with this build! I have plenty of other FAL's, all plenty accurate for battle rifles, but most are at best 3"-4"+ rifles. I don't hold out hope that I will ever have a 1 moa FAL, but a 2 moa works for me.
Davesrb

[Lee Carpentieri]

Considering its a heavy barrel which helps stabilize it the second the trigger is pulled, Plus the match ammo and a New barrel? and not some surplus used barrel and just maybe the SHOOTER HIMSELF? Ever wonder why the Israelis employed alot of thier Heavy barrel Fals with the air gauged barrels as snipers during the mid 1960's and into the early 1970's.
With this one it sounds like Dunk got the barrel lined up just right. Way to go guys.

[davesrb]

Lee,
Yes I think the brand new barrel is probably the main contributor. The 1966 Lake City match is the most accurate ammo I have. All my FAL's perform best with it. (173 grain bullets) But I'm down to under 3000 rounds of it now, so I shoot it more sparingly.
And Dunk always gets the barrels timed exactly right, or at least has on all of mine!!

Davesrb

Hey, the lower arrived today! Looks fantastic! Thanks again...

Davesrb

[Abominog]

Not for Nuthin' I'd rip that Imbel off the L2 and sell it and replace it with a DSA L1A1. Figure, sell the Imbel for $400 and buy a DSA L1A1 for $650, and for $250 OOP you have it right.

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Abominog
Not for Nuthin' I'd rip that Imbel off the L2 and sell it and replace it with a DSA L1A1. Figure, sell the Imbel for $400 and buy a DSA L1A1 for $650, and for $250 OOP you have it right.

I have thought about that, just haven't found a L1A1 receiver yet. Well, and I am always reluctant to tear down a nice shooting rifle:biggrin:

Davesrb:

[Rosstradamus]

Originally posted by Lee Carpentieri
Dave, You need two more to make it a bakers dozen.

Yes, a 50.63 and a 50.64. All that FALness and no Paras. Your work is not yet done.

[davesrb]

Originally posted by Rosstradamus


Yes, a 50.63 and a 50.64. All that FALness and no Paras. Your work is not yet done.

Gotcha covered. Check back in a few weeks....
Davesrb

[AGG]

Dave,

As elsewhere stated, you have one of the most awesome HBar collections around!!!! :eek:

Tony

[TS 2]

Damn, thats a nice collection.

[Barbcue]

in 5-10 years those rifle will be worth there weight in gold..

and that's at 1000 an once !

i might mention that isreali HB kits are a relative bargin these days considering what they will be worth down the road.

you will be able to pick a house for the price that set will be worth IMHO.

very nice collection of pretty much unobtainable kits.

well done DAVE !

:bow:

[BlackWell Industries]

You had me at Heavy Barrels:biggrin: Very Very nice!

[davesrb]

Thanks for the nice comments everyone! As you can tell, I love these rifles.



Originally posted by Barbcue
in 5-10 years those rifle will be worth there weight in gold..

and that's at 1000 an once !

i might mention that isreali HB kits are a relative bargin these days considering what they will be worth down the road.

you will be able to pick a house for the price that set will be worth IMHO.

very nice collection of pretty much unobtainable kits.

well done DAVE !

:bow:

Yes, it is incredible how quickly the price of some of these kits has increased over the last few years! If I had started any later I wouldn't have been able to get what I have. I agree with you on the Israeli Heavies, they are still around (L/FN has one for sale now!) and somewhat affordable. Soon they will be neither!

Davesrb

[davesrb]

Bumping back up for a friend to find. Here you go Max.

Davesrb

[dirtyrice]

Man those are nice, Im an inch guy mostly but that falo on the bottom is BEAUTIFUL. I love that flashhider.

[Chalk_2]

Nice! Also Pic #4 makes a great wall paper.:beer:

[homelandprotector]

Originally posted by Blue Monster
Lee it's not like we get actually get l**d more... but the scenery is so nice.

Cheers Dave:wink:
I found this chart to be a good guide line.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5097/pooncurverm4.png

[davesrb]

Originally posted by dirtyrice
Man those are nice, Im an inch guy mostly but that falo on the bottom is BEAUTIFUL. I love that flashhider.

Funny, as I think the G1 is my favorite FAL variant, but I agree with you, the FALO is probably my favorite in the collection. I absolutely love this rifle. EX1 and DunkRD really came through on this one. A truly classic design.

Davesrb

[davesrb]

Originally posted by homelandprotector

I found this chart to be a good guide line.

http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/5097/pooncurverm4.png

Hey Homelandprotector, nice graph, but I don't think it applies to second wives, and definitely not to younger second wives!

Davesrb

[Stranger]

Originally posted by homelandprotector

I found this chart to be a good guide line.



Thank you for posting that. :biggrin:

[187]

Sweet :biggrin:

[chrsdwns]

Now, the real question here is - does the steep drop off after the intersection represent a cause or effect:? :devil:

My guess is that depends upon who pays the bills