View Full Version : I had wanted a AA 22 LR conversion for my 1911 . . . . . .
ratas calientes
October 21, 2008, 23:05
I had my money saved up, and I had been waiting for the latest production run of the Advantage Arms .22LR conversions for my 1911. Then I found a post over at M1911.org where someone had their AA conversion blow up. I was waiting on the standard AA conversion, not the target version like the one that blew up, but it did make me think. I found it interesting how it split the slide into two. Unfortunately the slide is aluminum. I am now considering one of the few .22 conversions that are all steel instead of aluminum.
Full story here (http://forum.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=57573)
Take a look at this photo from the above post. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif
vmtz
October 21, 2008, 23:38
Looks like a slam fire. My UZI does it all the time.
Fr. Vince
ratas calientes
October 22, 2008, 10:42
Originally posted by vmtz
Looks like a slam fire. My UZI does it all the time.
Fr. Vince Vince - when this happens to your UZI, does it damage the action? Split the bolt into two pieces? I doubt it.
I have had out-of-battery firings of my Ceiner .22LR adapter in my AR before. They sound funny, and there is extra smoke that comes out of the action. But the Ceiner is made from steel, not aluminum, and it has yet to be damaged. A check of the action and the bore, and then shooting can continue.
What is spooky about this one is that it cracked the entire slide, almost all of which is located behind the round. I would hate to spend ~$400 on a .22LR adapter for a 1911, and then have this happen. I am now looking into the Tactical Solutions .22LR adapter. Theirs is made from steel, and it has the last round hold open which I want. Drawback is that I also wanted one that had an action more like the 1911, where the entire slide reciprocates, not just a portion of the slide as in most conversions. I had wanted both a 1911-type action and the last round hold open, but it looks like both of these in the same package might not be available.
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vmtz
October 23, 2008, 23:46
Buy a Ruger 22/45 or whatever they call it. 1911 feel and steel.
Fr. Vince
vmtz
October 23, 2008, 23:47
Oh, yeah. No, beer for you. BTW that is a comma and not a period.
Fr. Vince
Stranger
October 24, 2008, 08:14
That is frickin' weird. There are a lot of Al 22 LR receivers out there and I haven't ever heard of one splitting. I would think it would take a lot more energy than a 22 LR round could muster in order to split 2.5" of aluminum plate lengthwise.
vmtz
October 24, 2008, 08:17
That's what I was thinking? To bad we don't know anyone who could do the math to figure out how much stress is required to bust that slide?
Fr. Vince
Stranger
October 24, 2008, 08:47
Originally posted by vmtz
That's what I was thinking? To bad we don't know anyone who could do the math to figure out how much stress is required to bust that slide?
Fr. Vince
Get started on that and let us know when you finish crunching numbers.
ratas calientes
October 24, 2008, 12:08
Originally posted by vmtz
Oh, yeah. No, beer for you. BTW that is a comma and not a period.
Fr. Vince Properly phrased it needs no comma. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif
ratas calientes
October 24, 2008, 12:10
Originally posted by vmtz
Buy a Ruger 22/45 or whatever they call it. 1911 feel and steel.
Fr. Vince I have a 22/45. It really has no 1911 feel. Grip shaped different. Manual of arms different. Safety not the same. Sights different. Not much is the same. Sorry. I don't buy it. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif
bykerhd
October 24, 2008, 14:58
I would have to agree with ratas on the 22/45.
Nice pistol, but Ruger's copy of the 1911 isn't even close.
If they had gotten the grip right, I would have bought one. I've owned enough Ruger autos that the rest of the differences wouldn't have bothered me.
Is that slide split common ?
I had a Ceiner 1911 .22 top end that had a bad chamber right from Ceiner. The cases were very visibly bulged right by the rim.
Ceiner replaced the barrel, but I always wondered what a blown case might have done to the slide.
whirlibird
October 25, 2008, 04:58
Check out the Marvel conversion unit.
Marvel Precision (http://www.marvelprecision.com/)
Of course there's the old Colt units but they're pricey and will lead up the floating chamber in @200 rounds of lead bullet loads.
vmtz
October 25, 2008, 08:15
Originally posted by ratas calientes
Properly phrased it needs no comma. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif
Correct, but a comma is for a pause. So you have time to process the "no."
Let us do it this way: No.............Beer for you!
Better?
Fr. Vince
vmtz
October 25, 2008, 08:18
Originally posted by ratas calientes
I have a 22/45. It really has no 1911 feel. Grip shaped different. Manual of arms different. Safety not the same. Sights different. Not much is the same. Sorry. I don't buy it. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif
Well you could spend twenty-five-million dollars on one of those special made Kimber 22's?
Fr. Vince
bykerhd
October 25, 2008, 08:46
vmtz, the Kimber .22 top end looks to be made by Ceiner.
Could be wrong on that.
I'm not sure on what Kimber is using for a frame on the .22.
Probably just their standard version of 1911, I would think.
akjaeger
November 02, 2008, 22:24
I just picked up a Kimber conversion kit.
It seems a little stiff, only works 100% with the better 40gr high velocity rounds, like CCI mini-mags, but it seems to be loosening up. Hopefully it will eventually run those Wal-Mart Federal loads.
Ssarge
November 03, 2008, 03:22
I bought the Kimber rimfire target .22lr pistol. It's a hoot to shoot, and it works!
If you don't want to go all the way and just get an upper, Kimber makes a good one.
newagesmythie
November 20, 2008, 14:59
I have the Colt unit I use on mine. love it,you just have to be a little picky about your ammo. It has the last round lock back,kicks similiar to .45 ,made of steel with nice blueing and has that name that maks it cost more. Yes mags are more expensive the unit costs more and you get to do more cleaning. Colts gota love em. But a 200.00 conversion 10 year ago is worth 200.00 today a 250.00 Colt conversion 10 years ago is worth 500.00 today. Realy the key to a Colt unit is clean burning ammo, cleaning and a small tad of axle grease on the floating chamber.
bladeaholic
December 20, 2008, 01:01
Ciener makes the Kimber units for them!!!.:eek:
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