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Heat
October 13, 2008, 00:24
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/permits-carona-concealed-2186181-county-department#
God I am glad I no longer live in Califiornia...I would go nuts living like this..begging for the 'right' to carry
Thursday, October 9, 2008
Sheriff begins taking away concealed weapons permits
Hundreds of letters have been sent out advising current permit holders of impending revocation.
BY NORBERTO SANTANA JR.
The Orange County Register

The Sheriff's Department has begun the process of revoking hundreds of concealed weapon permits across Orange County.

This week, department officials confirmed that 146 letters have been sent out advising current license holders that their permits to carry firearms in public – called CCWs – are being revoked. There are currently 1,024 permit holders.

"The Department has determined that your identified risk does not meet the good cause threshold as required under the new CCW policy based upon the information you provided. As a result of this determination, the Department's present intention is to revoke your CCW license," reads the form letter sent out this month.

The letter, sent out under the signature of Captain Dave Nighswonger, advises current holders that if they feel that additional information should be considered they have roughly one month to provide additional good cause information for the department to consider before the revocation becomes final.

This week, county supervisors grilled Sheriff Sandra Hutchens during her 120-day update on the reorganization of the agency about the status of the concealed weapons review.

Hutchens acknowledged to supervisors that she had indeed tightened requirements for the permits but highlighted the fact that no current license had yet been revoked.

But it seems unlikely that those who are getting the letters won't be revoked.

"Most of them are not coming back with the information we need," said Nighswonger. "A lot of them are arguing the second amendment (to the U.S. Constitution)," he said.

Nighswonger said many of the current revocations listed their reason for having a concealed gun as "avid shooter."

That no longer qualifies under Hutchen's new standards.

Under state law, a Sheriff has discretion to issue concealed weapons permits. And under the administration of former Sheriff Mike Carona – whose federal corruption trial starts on Oct. 28 – guidelines for issuing concealed weapons permits were loosened.

Records reviewed by the Orange County Register show that concealed weapon permits soared under Carona, from 38 in 1998 to 468 the next year. By 2006, it was up to 1,400, a four-fold increase.

When Carona took over in 1998, Orange County ranked 34th in terms of the numbers of permits granted. By 2006, Orange County was ranked number nine.

However, the Register also found numerous instances where campaign donors received the permits. A Register analysis of Carona campaign contributions from 1996 to the end of 2001 shows that at least 95 contributors – who gave at least $68,000 - got licenses.

Indeed, the federal indictment against Carona details one specific instance where a wealthy contributor was granted a license under questionable circumstances.

Hutchens has said that connection prompted her to review the policies and tighten the standards.

Her revisions, and the revocation letters, have enraged gun activists who are pressing county supervisors to take action.

"There's a lot of business owners and a lot of gun owners that have had CCWs that have never met Mike Carona or contributed," said Greg Block, a Huntington Beach-based firearms instructor and activist.

He and many activists suggest a different standard: "If you are not a convicted felon, you should be able to get able to get a CCW in California," Block said.

renaissance_warrior
October 13, 2008, 02:12
Old news from a politically appointed bitch that had a hard-on against the supposed 'politically connected people' that had carry permits from the prior sheriff.

I would say that state is ripe for a Heller suit. They don't have the money to defend it, and if they did, it would be a no-win for them. The people there are fed up with the crime.

V guy
October 14, 2008, 11:05
In NYS the policy is generally worse.....but depending upon the county you live in, they stamp your CCW with the applicable restrictions.

Mine says "hunting, camping, hiking, target.........plus carry on your property is unrestricted as always.......those restrictions cover a multitude of sins so to speak........

thedrickel
October 15, 2008, 22:10
Incorporation of Heller is coming soon via the Nordyke case, this kind of BS will probably take another 1-3 years to resolve. When they realize that loaded open carry is legal they are going to be begging us to CCW ;)

WannaFal
October 19, 2008, 11:15
Maybe the sheriff is just getting an early start on the first step Obama will make against gun owners in January?
Mybe he's trying to score points with Obama so as to become the BATFE chief?

mosbysmen
October 19, 2008, 13:04
i think someone in commiefornia should start a recall against the sheriff

Heat
October 19, 2008, 13:36
Originally posted by WannaFal
Maybe the sheriff is just getting an early start on the first step Obama will make against gun owners in January?
Mybe he's trying to score points with Obama so as to become the BATFE chief?
Its a she...but thats irrelavant..California is polluted with beuracrats and politicians..and that is essentially what a sheriff is
California is lost

thedrickel
October 20, 2008, 00:24
Originally posted by mosbysmen
i think someone in commiefornia should start a recall against the sheriff

Orange Country residents have already formed a PAC to fight against her in the next election. I also heard the Board of Supervisors gave her an earful at their last meeting.