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womsterr
August 08, 2008, 12:35
Are there any suggestions on where to find one? Whats the going price? I've buillt ARs.AKs and FALs and I'd very much like to build as close to a GI standard issue and would love a gov't kit to start from. Any suggestions sincerely appreciated.

gunshack
August 08, 2008, 13:41
Most kits you'll find for sale today are being sold by private individuals. A member here, 2barearms had one listed for a very good price not too long ago. Maybe you can contact him, or search for his posts.

If you want a rifle as close to USGI issue as possible, consider buying a complete LRB with all surplus GI parts. Odds are it's only going to cost you about one or two hundred $$ more than if you were to purchase all the parts or a kit and a receiver separately. Then you'll still have to pay a gunsmith to assemble it, or buy/make the tooling to do it yourself. In the long run you'll spend more money (and a lot of time) if your intention is to have just one rifle.

I've only bought one complete kit in my time, but I've put together 6 or 7 in recent years. Adding up the cost of the parts (not to mention the investment in time to scan the forums for deals) I'm not much better off financially than I would have been if I just bought complete rifles.

RRotz
August 08, 2008, 14:31
it's hard to find complete kits from a demilled rifle, ie numbers don't match. best way for me has been to buy parts NIW seperately from the same maker.

womsterr
August 08, 2008, 15:00
I see Sarco has some listed. Any experience there?

I like those LRBs but man $2000k plus good lord! thats a little out of my range.

ledbetterblu
August 08, 2008, 17:54
I ordered a kit from SARCO in Febuary 08. It came in about a week. It was without some of the parts, ie: mag catch, gas cylinder and the spring guide.
I was told that the parts would be sent to me in 60days. 120 days later I called and was told that the parts were basically on back order forever. I asked for a refund of the cost of parts, so I could get them from some one else. Despite the fact that they had the parts posted on their site for about $160 they refunded me only $35. "because when you buy a kit we already discount everything so much." The parts I did receive where awesome and looked like they were never used. long story short excellent parts crappy customer service. Good luck I plan on having lrb build my next m14.

1MOR
August 08, 2008, 18:58
Best deal is to find an already assembled rifle that is all USGI components on a Armscorp or SA receiver. I have done the parts route and purchased assembled rifles. After you do the math, assembled is cheaper. You could always do the all NOS parts build, but that is really expensive. I have just sent out a NOS set of HR parts for build on a new Armscorp custom marked receiver. I have had the parts since the mid 90s when a complete kit could be had for around $300. Those days are long gone.

2barearms
August 08, 2008, 19:26
As of right now I've not seen a complete demill for sale in 5 years or so. I've been collecting, building and packaging kits for a while now and the current pressure on parts prices has pretty much killed it for me. To go the USGI build route you are going to spend a couple grand and there's no way around it. The demills from time gone by were not cheap either $750 was about as cheap a kit as I recall. The real difference between a "kit" and and a parts "set" is that the parts are selected for function as well as appearance. If you look at what's for sale on Gunbroker for instance you'll notice a lot of NIW "new in wrapper" parts, these generally would be the way to go although painful, it's hard to build a new rifle from used parts. Many of the parts in the sets I've sold have mostly new small parts which will generally make for a nicer rifle than refinished used stuff. I've done it both ways and in the end the newer the parts the better.

Your other option is to seek a build for sale with the parts you want and generally these will sell for 2 to 4 hundred less than building one from scratch.

V guy
August 14, 2008, 15:54
Bill Clinton demilled 500,000 M-14's......he sent 300,000 out to nato allies and we have about 125,000 left....so where did all the parts go??? Sure as hell people have not built 500,000 rifles from the parts that must have gotten into the system somewhere to maintain the rest...I'll bet that at most only about 10,000 M1a's have been built from all mfg's...

DABTL
August 19, 2008, 06:54
Parts were available from CMP until the government recalled all of them.

Loaned M14's were recalled at the same time.

They have all been recycled for use in Iraq and Afghanistan.

MBR29
August 19, 2008, 09:06
SA INC is in the 180,000 range I verified this with Bob Reese last year.

womsterr
August 19, 2008, 11:53
Sarco is sold out. Haven't found a parts kit around...bummer...I'll keep looking!

1MOR
August 19, 2008, 18:25
You may need to start buying individual pieces, op rod, T/group, bolt. Stocks and other parts are more readily available. I would also camp out on the Jouster and Hawk's M14 boards.

akdennis
August 19, 2008, 18:45
Just buy an M1A.. you can't have an full auto M-14 out of parts anyway..

:rolleyes: