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June 09, 2008, 12:15
I am new to AR's and have a 20" 1:9 A2 and just purchased a Bushmaster V-Match with 24" barrel, 1:9. I picked 500 rnds of Federal XM193, 500 rnds of Winchester Q3131A and have 500 rnds of Radway Green on the way. I wanted to get some different ammo to try and found some Black Hills blue box. Is this as good as advertised? It is supposed to be remanufactured but very accurate. Anyone with experience with Black Hills ammo?
June 09, 2008, 12:58
My experience with Black Hills is limited to .308.
I have never seen it out shoot Federal Gold Medal Match.
Though often touted as equal to or greater than the groups don't lie.
Their .223 may be a different case.
You'll need a taste test to find out.
June 09, 2008, 16:25
The PIC I sent you of that 200 Yard Group from my H/BAR was shot with the Black Hills 75 Gr Match Bullet (Molly) BLUE Box..
I would Not call it MATCH grade ammo as it is remanufactured but it does seem to shoot pretty well.. I have NOT tried it in the H/BAR A2 YET but will next range trip..
Although the two US brands that you mention are good 55 gr fodder, your 1:9 twist may very well be happier with a Heavier bullets.. I bet it likes the 62 Grain (or heavier) bullets better.. I would try the 68, 69, and the 75 Gr bullets fer sher....
Surely NOT a fantastic group but it's decent..
June 09, 2008, 17:50
I've got a few choices for ammo. I have 62gr Radway Green on the way and was looking at the Privi M855 at Wideners and the Privi 75gr match ammo they have. I wasn't sure that the 1:9 barrel would shoot the 75gr that well. I don't want to get too much of a particular ammo until I have a chance to try it out. I should have my Bushmaster V-match early next week. I have the 1 LRB receiver left and was looking at a varmint kit with stainless steel barrel 1:8, not sure 20" or 24".
Anyway I read a few posts about the Black Hills and found a decent deal, 500 rnds of blue box 55gr FMJ for $230 delivered. AIM has/had 1K of 55FMJ that was rated as excellent on AR15.com for $339 per K, $356 to my door.
I need to put a scope on the AR's, I just can't see well enough to make a judgement on the accuracy of the ammo without one. I did find the Federal XM193 was dirty compared to the Winchester Q3131A and it shoot better.
June 09, 2008, 19:10
I agree Ken, not investing big $$ in a Bunch of UN-Tested ammo is Smart.. ...
The AR's as with Most other guns need to be tested with several types of ammo and bullet weights..
Finding that SWEET Combo makes a Good Gun a GREAT gun IMHO, and the Testing is half the Fun...
As far as Glass YES it helps a LOT... I only have a VXII 3X9 on the Colt H/Bar and would very much like to get a Higher XX Optic as well as a New mount for the same gun.. The One I have (Mount) works fine but I think it's pretty Fugly..
As far as the Twist i'm not convinced that that shit is etched in Stone?
1:9 Might not be the BEST for the 75 Grainers but I say try it and see.. You may be surprised, you may be dissapointed who knows.. NO Shortage of EXPERTS just look around.. :tongue:
I still say find out in EACH gun and then you'll know for yourself one way or the other..
I have been told that LIGHT bullets (Under 55 gr) shoot great out of the 1:9 and I plan on trying that with some Handloads... It may be that Over 60 Gr, & Under 75 might shoot the Best but that's what we need to find out.. Personally ALL My Guns are 1:9 so this is something that's on my mind as well... The group I shot aint one to Brag on but it did give me enough info that I would shoot the 75 Grain bullets again and try a Little harder next time..
Hell if I could get 10 Rounds in 2" I would call that Pretty Damn Good and would load some 75's for myself and see what happens... :wink: :beer:
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