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[Blue Monster]

My recent purchase: a mark III Hi-power sucks.

I have tried different mags and various round fmj ammo and this sob miss feeds all.

Trigger is crap, even after a little work, the mag safety sucks too, you can decrease trigger pull by greasing it or pushing on the mag :S

After every shot you have to tug the slide back 1/4 to feed all rounds, the ramps appears polished, I gave it a little love, to no effect. My "guy" said he would not remove the mag safety for legal reasons.
200 rounds fired 200 issues... POS

Ideas?
or
Soon to be on GB.

[Rik]

send it back to Browning and let them fix it.

[Blue Monster]

Mil surp used


http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/bluemonster2003/101_0212.jpg

[MAINER]

"Legal reasons" ?

Don't know of any law that states "thou shalt not remove mag safety from thine BHP".

Lots of Auto pistols have no mag safety. I removed mine as a "Safety Precaution". I might want my pistol to shoot when the mag is lost, damaged or missing. :rolleyes:

The mag safety can wait untill or if your feeding problem is resolved, however.
Are the rounds jamming going into the chamber? I'm sure you've checked for burrs and such. Check for sharp edges or rough extractor. If it won't feed FMJ ammo, it won't feed anything.

I'd call Browning's Cust Service. They've done right by me.

Don't give up on it. I've had two BHP's and both ran great, even with cast bullet loads.

[AndyC]

Originally posted by MAINER
"Legal reasons" ?

Don't know of any law that states "thou shalt not remove mag safety from thine BHP".
Not a law, per se - but some prosecutors have apparently tried to strengthen their case against an owner by saying that, by deliberately removing a safety-device, the owner was obviously negligent - words to that effect, anyway.

[Blue Monster]

If it won't feed FMJ ammo, it won't feed anything.
Exactly!

The ramp is smooth polished and burr free. :(

I'll give browning a call too.

And yup Andy C is right, (did I say that!!) that's what my trigger guy told me.

Thanks!

[MAINER]

That Hp would really look great with a set fancy wood grips on it! :)

Lemmie know if you're interested, cause I know about a guy on the Files that's a gee-whiz wood whittler I'll try an remember his handle for ya! :biggrin:

[Blue Monster]

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r61/bluemonster2003/2W.jpg

It's what I did for ammo/parts before I got started on Fal stuff...:biggrin:
That BHP is an evil black gun and shall remain black if I can get it to work.

Browning gave me the number of 2 dealers in OH and suggested they look at it.

[newfalguy101]

Mil-surp??

I have an Inglis that I had a terrible time with.

I got to really watching and as the slide would go forward it would hesitate just before the the hammer would clear the end of the slide.

I looked at the underside of the slide and it was ever so slightly dished out which created a very slight hump just in front of the firing pin retainer plate.

My fix??

I cleaned the oil and such off, used a paint pen to mark the underside of the slide and used a sharp file and GENTLY removed the hump, only a few strokes at a time, check, file, check fit and so on till it closed with no hesitation.

Might be worth a look.

[AndyC]

I'm curious about this part of your description:

After every shot you have to tug the slide back 1/4 to feed all rounds

I'm assuming (correct me if I'm wrong) that the fired case ejects properly. Now, when you say you have to tug the slide back 1/4, do you mean a quarter of the total slide-travel or a 1/4 inch?

Either way, that distance won't be enough to feed a round from the mag, so I'm assuming the round is jammed on the feedramp or almost all the way chambered. If so, can you describe the jam?

See, I had a BHP which would fail-to-feed - and eventually I figured out that the inside of the chamber at the upper surface was as rough as a badger's bum. It would catch and jam the bullet at an upward 45-degree angle (more or less) before it was able to swivel downwards and go straight into the chamber.

[lew]

If you don't want it, I'll take it.

:D

I think Andy's appraisal of the situation might be your problem.

[TXscout]

I have one too, but haven't shot it yet--I know it's surplus, but just wondered if you have updated the springs yet? It might be in dire need of a new recoil spring, as we don't know how well these were maintained.

Just a thought:beer:

[Para Driver]

I had similar problems, FTF every 2-3 rounds, I replaced the spring and it runs fine.. Get the Wolff springs, comes with 5 IIRC. 16#, 17 std, 18.5, 20, 22
some like the 18.5, mine likes the 20 with Win White Box Ammo.. YMMV
Midway has the spring kit, or you can order from Wolff online for about $30

[Hawgleg44]

I guess I lucked out with mine. It's one of the "Made in Belgium, Assembled in Portugal" versions that I bought from my neighbor. He bought it new and fired about 400 rounds through it and I have at least twice that through it myself with one malfunction. It didn't like one shape of cast bullet I tried, but since I swapped over to a Lyman 147gr mould, no problems at all.

The trigger definately leaves a lot to be desired, though, just as all BHP's do. They aren't, and never will be, a tuned 1911. But, if you want a BHP to be the best it can be, send it to Karl Sokol at Chestnut Mountain Sports (http://chestnutmountainsports.com/). His work is top notch, and he's had customers send him work correcting mistakes made by some of the more well-known shops, with large advertising budgets and the owners in offices instead of at the workbench. Karl's a one-man shop and he takes pride in his work.

In an issue of Combat Handguns, or Custom Combat Handguns, or something like that, there was an article, last year I believe, comparing BHP's built by Karl, Cylinder and Slide and I think Novak.

If you're not satisfied with the local shop, give Karl a call. He'll turn your BHP into your favorite handgun. Mine's off to him next week!

[johnny.308]

The rounds may be hanging up on a rough spot on the breech face. I had this problem with an old .45 auto I had. After I polished the breech face the problem disappeared.

[Ned Flangers]

I'm hankerin' for a Hi-power. Which years/versions are the best?
(sorry for the hi-power-jack Blue!)

[lew]

Originally posted by Ned Flangers
I'm hankerin' for a Hi-power. Which years/versions are the best?
(sorry for the hi-power-jack Blue!)

If you can live without a genuine FN, an Argentine FM is an excellent deal, as well as a great shooter. All parts are interchangeable with the FN.

[Blue Monster]

Sorry everyone, been on the Rd.

Andy, yes the rounds are ramping up as they strip, when the round hits the top of the chamber it sticks at a 45 degree angle. The release is to tug the slide back approximately 1/8-1/4" just enough to allow the round to drop into alignment with the chamber. Then let the slide go and you now have a wonderful repeating BHP
:rofl: :rofl: Bang tug, bang tug, bang tug x 13 :rofl: :rofl:

I have considered the spring too, most of my stuff end up with Wolffs...

I will on filers advise, do some general polishing.

The top inside of the chamber seems OK, pretty smooth and I hesitate to do much if any polishing on any support area of a chamber but I'll check it out.

Seriously and I don't necessarily recommend this but: a little square of steel tape on the mag where it hits the mag safety with a drop of heavy grease on it does wonders for the trigger. Not very practical but fine at the range.

Excellent stuff all around, I love this sight!
Thanks guys.

Slainte,
RC