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April 22, 2008, 15:57
I have an Imbel Brazilian parts kit that I plan on doing a build with. I am planning on ordering an Entreprise Receiver, and had a few questions:
Type 1 or Type 3 receiver? Which would be like the original Brazilian receiver?
I am planning on ordering a furniture set from DSA. I'm assuming this is made in USA furniture....
So if this furniture is made in US and will count as US parts, what will be my cheapest method to get the rest of the compliance parts? Any links to these parts would be greatly appreciated.
April 22, 2008, 16:48
Try Falcon Arms.
April 22, 2008, 16:56
Most Imbel's were produced with type III receivers. FN made Fals for Brazil in 1964 on Type I receivers, but not aware of any type made by Imbel other than type III
DSA's plastics are US made.
You could do with a H/T/S set if you remove or replace the flashhider with a US made device. If you wish to keep the flashhider, just add a US made gas piston to the list.
These guys have most of the stuff you need.
Also, see Ratas (Fal Files member) for a barrel vice and receiver wrench that works. Court in Fla has a nice barrel timing tool.
April 22, 2008, 21:06
There were a very few IMBEL FALS built on type 2 receivers, I saw 2 out of thousands of kits I looked at. Probably 99%+ of the IMBEL FAL kits I looked over were type 3 (look at the cuts on the lower). The receiver really does not matter to build a shooter, the build does. I helped build maybe 30 kits on Entreprize receivers, and THEY ALL SHOT WELL, but usually required a slightly larger locking shoulder than DSA or FN (to build correctly). But they all functioned perfectly (my builds) and I advised as decent receivers.
As advised earlier, great advice. But Chile seems to have imported quite a few type 1 rifles and a few type 2 rifles as they did evaluations of the future choices. They decided the most x for the least $. I believe a type 3 receiver is most likely going to fit your choice, but you need to put a few minutes into this choice. Look at the recoil plate, look at the cut differences. A type 1 or 2 look very similar, you will not mistake a type 3 strait cut for any other.
The type 3 lower is tougher, and cheaper to build. I helped build many FALs on Entreprize receivers even as the Gunplumber and me exchanged barbs. He built for a living, me as a hobbiest. I never got a bad Entreprize build (altho all of mine required larger cut locking shoulders to correct headspace). All functioned perfectly then, and still do.
I think I may buy 2-3 more for some cherry kits
April 22, 2008, 22:44
so I have to have a US h/s/t and piston ALONG with US handguards, grip, and stock to be compliant???? Geeze that seems like a lot of parts.
April 22, 2008, 23:10
It's better than a lot of years in prison
April 23, 2008, 08:31
You should be grateful that your government is looking out for you and protecting you from them evil foreign gun parts!! :tongue:
NO more than 10 evil parts please! :D
Also, 27 C.F.R. Section 478.39 states
“…(a) No person shall assemble a semiautomatic rifle or any shotgun using more than 10 of the imported parts listed in paragraph (c) of this section if the assembled firearm is prohibited from importation under section 925(d)(3) as not being particularly suitable for or readily adaptable to sporting purposes.
(b) The provisions of this section shall not apply to:
(1) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for sale or distribution by a licensed manufacturer to the United States or any department or agency thereof or to any State or any department, agency, or political subdivision thereof or (2) The assembly of such rifle or shotgun for the purposes of testing or experimentation authorized by the Director under the provisions of [§478.151(formerly 178.151)]; or (3) The repair of any rifle or shotgun which had been imported into or assembled in the United States prior to November 30, 1990, or the replacement of any part of such firearm.
(c) For purposes of this section, the term imported parts [tabulated below] are.
(1) Frames, receivers, receiver castings, forgings, or castings.
(3) Barrel extensions.
(4) Mounting blocks (trunnions).
(5) Muzzle attachments.
(7) Bolt carriers.
(8) Operating rods.
(9) Gas pistons.
(10) Trigger housings.
(16) Pistol grips.
(17) Forearms, handguards.
(18) Magazine bodies.
(20) Floor plates.
April 24, 2008, 00:23
Yup, you need at least 7 U.S. made parts. Furniture is 3 parts, and a hammer/trigger/sear combo is 3 more. Your receiver is your 7th part.
I believe Falcon Arms does have a H/T/S set, and that is a good way to go. We only make a hammer and sear, but no trigger, so we have to use a muzzle brake that we make as our 7th part.
Btw, DSA furniture is nice, and I have a pair of DSA handguards on one of my own Fals :wink:
Btw, we are only making Type 3 receivers these days, to it makes your choice easier for you :bigangel:
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