View Full Version : Why a revolver!
skeeterbay
April 02, 2008, 13:34
I like auto's well enough and I have had a couple that shot dang nice over the years. But for me revolvers have always been more accurate!
I started out in LE being issued old 38 cal revolvers. Then came the 357 mag's and finally the semi auto's. Funny but I recall us having to qualify with revolvers and having part of the course shot supported at the 50 yrd mark. I don't know about all agencies but I think now days most are doing everything at the 25 yrd and under mark.
Yep I like auto's they sure are nice. But when it comes time to hit a Skoal can at 50 yds I still reach for a revolver!;)
Skeeter!
davedude
April 02, 2008, 15:00
Dude! you are exactly right! My first revolver back in the day was a blackhawk 7.25" in .30carbine. wow, talk about 50yrd accuracy, that thing was freakin amazing. whatever you could see you could hit.....50yrds was easy with that piece. I handloaded custom stuff for it too--round ball and shot as well as spire point 130g stuff that would not go in the carbine....wish I'd never sold that revolver.....
hmmmmm I have yet to try my 686 at 50......have to add it to my "play" list:wink:
Dave Dude
icwells
April 02, 2008, 15:55
Originally posted by davedude
hmmmmm I have yet to try my 686 at 50......have to add it to my "play" list:wink:
The second time I took my 686 with 4' barrel to the range, my brother hit a coffee can at about 70 yd. unsupported. I'm still trying to outdo that....
skeeterbay
April 02, 2008, 16:07
Dave: I have had a batch of the blackhawks but I have never owned one in 30 carbine. Don't know why I guess I never found one for sale when I had the cash.
On your 686 I think you better give it a try. I have had a couple of 586's that were real shooters. One old 6" nickle that shot so good I used it with factory irons on coyotes and foxes with with a call. I had another blued 4" that was dang near as good.
If you want to make the old Skoal can dance load it with some hollow base wad cutters and a low end charge of 700X. Most of my 38 cal Smith's shot 700x better with hollow base wad cutters.
Skeeter!
Temp
April 02, 2008, 16:10
Why?
Load an old style, large frame, short barreled Ruger Vaquero birdshead .45 Colt up with LBT 300 grain cast bullets over a copious quantity ofWW296 and you won't have to ask "why".
Just make sure to locktite the grip frame screws before you do it very much.
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skeeterbay
April 02, 2008, 16:43
Temp: My normal bear gun is a 4" 44mag blackhawk loaded with 300 grain WFNGC and a healthy charge of 296 or 2400. I have taken a fair amount of bear with that load and dispatched more than a few that were rifle wounded. I have also used that load on moose. I like the big lead bullets and 296.
FWIW: I always liked hunting with a revolver. It always gave me a bit of a charge for some reason. I guess bow hunters get the same thing. There's nothing like crawling into the brush on a bear at dusk with your flashlight and a revolver. It will make you feel alive!
Skeeter!
GW870
April 02, 2008, 17:01
Skeeter? Are you remembering what I'm remembering?
50 yards, prone, on a PPC target, with a 4" Smith and wadcutters?
GW
Temp
April 02, 2008, 17:05
I was camping in Glacier National Park in 1980 when two people were killed by a Griz about 1.5 miles from my camp. It left an impression on me. There's been a big bore heavy duty revolver of some sort around the house ever since.
There's no Griz where I live,... but ya just never know when you might need to punch a big hole through something,.. and a compact, big bore, heavy duty single action revolver is a very handy thing to do it with.
When Ruger started making these short barreled birdshead Vaqueros, I knew I'd have to get one. With the .45 Colt heavy bullet loads,.. it's got about the best power to weight ratio you can find without going the custom route.
The 4" S&W .44 mags are lighter and put out about the same energy,.. and I had one of them for many years,...but they're just not in the same class as a Ruger single action when it comes to shootability and durability with hard charging loads.
skeeterbay
April 02, 2008, 20:17
GW870: Prone and over barricade. Man what grease marks those hollow based wad cutters would make on a car windshield. :eek:
Temp: I have said it before you have great taste in guns. Griz now I take a slightly different out look on them. When I lived in Griz country I made sure I had a rifle with me.
Skeeter!
Temp
April 02, 2008, 20:45
Originally posted by skeeterbay
Temp: I have said it before you have great taste in guns. Griz now I take a slightly different out look on them. When I lived in Griz country I made sure I had a rifle with me.
Skeeter!
Yeah,... I would prefer a rifle too,.... but the national park service frowns on firearms,... and it's hard to fit a 45-70 Marlin in a backpack.
I've been back to Glacier National Park 3 times since my original visit in 1980. Me and that little woman that I was married to at the time liked to hike up into the alpine meadows and camp.
Back then, the 7.5" Superblackhawks were the hardest hitting handguns available,... and one in your lap loaded with a hard cast 429421 over 22 grains of 2400 as we sat around the fire made the experience much more relaxing.
I've gotten a bit old and feeble for taking on Glacier,... but I still enjoy the Ruger thumbusters. I can't imagine not having one around.
skeeterbay
April 02, 2008, 21:19
Yes I never could understand why the park service doesn't allow guns. How could anyone expect someone to go out in the woods with out some sort of firearm. You can enforce game laws without banning guns.
I got a little 44mag with a lanyard ring on it. Makes camping and nap time nice. No feeling around for your gun in the tent. It's resting on your chest.
Skeeter!
Mason
April 02, 2008, 22:43
Revolvers are accurate, reliable, and durable.
And they don't leave a brass trail.
V guy
April 03, 2008, 13:55
You need a revolver in case the electricity goes out and the semi autos won't work..
I've owned quite a few single action .45 colt guns for cowboy action shooting...
I have three old style Vaqueros, and sold two old style SS vaqueros in the same cal.. I won't have any of the Italian replicas anymore..due to durability problems with the hand and bolt...although a Hawes I onwed was actually a Sig-Sauer mfg gun..I could load up the vaqueros with stout loads for hunting but I have a 44 mag SS super blackhawk 5 1/2 bbl that is great medicine for hunting..
I just picked up a S&W 581 .357 mag with 4" bbl in blue...great gun..keep it near the ketchup...
Deltaten
April 04, 2008, 15:15
Learn proper techniques of DA revolver shooting and evrything else is a piece of cake :D
What?? only 50 and 70 yds?!?!
Fun is once ya get past 100 m. Regular DA "clang" on the pig at 100m and then move up. Know one fella does it all the time w/a 2' S&W m.36!... not me,,, nuff trouble with the 4" -66 anymore:D
Best,
Paul
trucksurfer
April 07, 2008, 14:00
I have a few token autos, but like many here my true love is in wheel guns, here are a few of my favorites:
I have the ubiquitous Super Blackhawk, actually the Bisley Hunter model, it's got a bit of a front heavy balance, but that helps with the heavier loads.
I have a Stainless Blackhawk in 45 Colt that a previous owner sent off to Mr. Linebaugh for a bit of tweaking. Talk about smooth, and sweet! It is one nice peice, I'm still trying to find the ideal load for it, and that takes a bit of shooting...oh darn!
I have another 45, a Smith Mountain Gun in 45 Colt. This wheel gun is great! I don't shoot the heavy stuff in it, but I shoot it a lot, and love every minute of it.
My sole (hopefully not for long) .357 is a 6" 686 Deluxe Hunter, basically a Lew Hortons limited series with full lug barrel and unfluted cylinder, sweet gun!
These are a few of my favorite things....
owlcreekok
April 07, 2008, 17:17
First time I visited a IHMSA range all I was carryin' with was a 686, 5 - 7/8" with as hot a load under my 158 gr SWC's I dared. Chickens through pigs were fairly easy to hit (50 & 100 metres, respectively) The 150m turkeys took a bit of doing and the 200 m rams were a bee eye double itch, but I hit a few. The rams refused to fall when hit with the .357 shot, but they took a few splats lobbed mortar style.
The next few and many after trips to those ranges were with T/C Contenders and an old Super Blackhawk (still got the 'hawk, but it needs a trip to the factory).
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