? about form 4 and classIII dealers

[jaykden]

ok, i'm beginning to get into NFA. i have one approved form 1 for a SBR and have a form 1 pending for a SBS.

now my problem is submitting a form 4.

i live in sitka, alaska. its a small town on an island down in the southeast. there are no class III dealers in sitka, and as far as i know, none in the whole of the southeast (juneau, ketchican, ect...)

now, there are several dealers up north, but what do i do if i want to submit a form 4 (or have a dealer submit a F4)? i am really wanting a silencer or 2 and would like to know how to do a transfer while in sitka? what i'm worried about is having to fly up north to anchorage to do the transfer? thats an expensive plane ticket from sitka.

or.... hopefully, can i have a dealer in alaska do a transfer and send the NFA item to me in sitka?

driving is out of the question as you have to drive through canada to get up north from southeast, besides the fact that i would have to take the state ferry to the mainland anyway.

[S. Fisher]

According to this site http://www.triplebreakproducts.com/FAQ/nfa_-_who_can_sign.htm

AST would do the sign off. If its in state I think that a class III dealer in here in Alaska can just transfer it to you. If you find it out of state you need an FFL in your town to do the transfer, ether way you need AST to sign off on your form 4.
This is my understanding, but I would check w/ AST first.

[jaykden]

i'm bypassing the signature/ fingerprints/ photos as all NFA items i did the F1's for are done as a trust, not individual

[S. Fisher]

jaykden, if you decide to get a couple of cans, as long as they are in state, and two Form 4's are submitted and approved, one from you and one from dealer or individual in state. The dealer or individual can ship item directly to you. You would only have to travel to the dealer if item was coming from outside of the state.


http://www.beltfedmachineguns.com/how%20to%20buy.html


If the gun is owned by someone in your state, you can do the transfer yourself without going through a dealer. This is done by filling out a Form 4 and sending it to the BATF.

Let's assume you've found a gun on the Internet you want and a dealer transfers it for you. After it arrives you will need to get with your dealer and fill out a Form 4.

Have fun with the F1's
-Jason

[AlaskanMBR]

Jake, how easy was doing the F1 as a trust? You've got me thinking about it again... I want a can but don't want the CLEO BS.

[jaykden]

well, i just set up a trust using quicken willmaker.

i added the AR with the serial number and transfered in into the trust on paper the same day i sent off the form 1

did the same thing with the shotty last week (made up my own serial #s after i spoke with ATF)

the reason i went the trust route was that i had been trying to set up a meeting with the CLEO here but we wasnt returning my calls and it just wasn't happening. i don't know if he just won't sign or if he was too busy at the time.

as far as i'm concerned, going the trust route is the way to go.


do you know of any class III dealers here in AK that have cans for sale?

[S. Fisher]

I could only find 5 dealers in the state Jake this link shows six
http://www.tacticalinc.com/alaskabrclass-dealers-c-21_199_213_214.html?osCsid=ec53b1f252e2e4855ca8571 f360fdfa7
However down under guns in Fairbanks, closed their doors last august. I don't know if any of the remaining guys have any cans in stock, but the site lists their phone #'s. It would suck for you to have to travel to get one. With the price of tickets now, it would be like buying two and only getting one. Hope you find one.
- Jason

[jaykden]

great info, thanks!

i would like to use the $600 tax rebate for a can. i also did some more checking and B&B firearms in anchorage is a gemtech dealer.

[AlaskanMBR]

Chris Mannino of Arms & Equipment is the only class 3 in the interior anymore. He has some cans on hand, and is a dealer for several suppressor companies.

He's got some SWEET stuff in stock right now.

His # is 474-0636

Tell him Preston sent ya.