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February 16, 2001, 08:07
If you rate on a scale 1(bad)- 100(good). What would they be? cents per round.
Portuguese - 15rd
German - 13.5rd
Argentine - 13.5rd
Chili - 13rd
Radway - 13.5rd
February 16, 2001, 10:31
Portugese FNM; Argentine; RG; Maylasian; Hirtenberg; Belgian FN; Italian SMI: all good (100)
Cavim: Size is variable. I can't detect this in my FALs or M1A; only bolt guns (90)
Israeli mixed headstamp, loose pack; TZ80 new in box: Case head splits Bad (1)
No experience: Chilean, German DAG
February 16, 2001, 11:49
I'm going to add to your list a bit, as these are what I have used.
Federal Match 168gr. Top of the scale, reloadable, typically cited as the product by which all others are measured.
I have experience with Radway Green and Hirtenberger; both shot well, were similarly accurate in my rifle, and both were clean.
I have also used CAVIM, and it is reasonably inaccurate, with a group size at least twice as large as RG or Hirt. It is reloadable, but there are many posts regarding the brass being soft and somewhat inconsistant in length, etc. Likely to take a little more time in preparation for the first loading.
The Hirtenberger I have recieved is VERY clean ammo; looks like it was made last week. The reloadability of the cases was a point in it's favor, in my estimation.
So, on my scale:
Federal 168gr Match 100
Hirtenberger '79 95
Radway Green '89 90
CAVIM '90 & '91 80
February 20, 2001, 07:54
I have used Israeli IMI (TZ?? I think it was 79) and I have had no problems with case-head separation or split cases. Maybe it's just the place where I have been buying my ammo... local gunshop (So Cal. Guns). I have fired Hirtenberg and RG as well. I liked the Hirtenberg very much but the RG, while it fired well tended to be very dirty. I have a case of Portugese I can't wait to open up.
[This message has been edited by Ratlord (edited February 20, 2001).]
February 20, 2001, 10:52
Do yourself a favor; buy american.
Look, Grab, Look, Grab, Pull, Pull, Arch, Check.
February 21, 2001, 21:35
I have been srugling with Calvim for 5 years.
Those cases never wear out, they are meant to provide inaccuracy for genrerations.
Federal Gold is better.
February 22, 2001, 02:43
Ratlord- if you're buying your Hirt in SoCal you're paying WAY too much. If you want to go in with a 1/2 case or just the 200 round battle packs let me know and I'll sell it to you from my stash for cost and shipping. I will not make any money, I just hate to see guys get gouged for 200 rounds at $45 or so and it will help out a bro (SKS $350 and other stupid shit). I have several different kinds and am in San Diego area.
[This message has been edited by Wrangler100 (edited February 22, 2001).]
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