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goodorbit
March 06, 2008, 05:22
Does anybody have detailed info on the T-48 Pistol grip?
Detailed Photos?
Blueprints?
An actual example?

And what is the pin on the H&R guns? It does not show up on the FN examples.

Douglas Wozny
March 06, 2008, 08:24
This is the information I have: Grip, Pistol, Assembly dwg no. B7267566 is composed of Grip, Pistol dwg no. C7267434, Rivet, Truss Head BMCX1.3 and Washer, Plan, Light Series BEBX1. This came for "Notes on Development Type Material for Rifle, Caliber .30, T48 Report SA-NM11-3000". If you would like a copy PM me for price and shipping info.

Scott S
March 06, 2008, 11:54
Are you talking about the pin by the carry handle? If so, there's another pin on the other side of the receiver at the same location. Together, the two pins as as a stripper clip guide. Someone here on the 'Files posted a pic of an original H&R stripper clip. IIRC, it was kinda horseshoe shaped.

goodorbit
March 06, 2008, 17:34
Originally posted by Scott S
Are you talking about the pin by the carry handle? If so, there's another pin on the other side of the receiver at the same location. Together, the two pins as as a stripper clip guide. Someone here on the 'Files posted a pic of an original H&R stripper clip. IIRC, it was kinda horseshoe shaped.

Nope, the metal pin in the pistol grip 1/3 of the way up from the bottom. I'm guessing this is at the bottom of the mortise for the trigger guard to fold into. Maybe H&R added it as a reinforcement?

Falcon
March 06, 2008, 20:29
Here's a pic of the type "B" I used to own, sold it to a Fal'er in Texas. The open slot area was for storing the trigger guard which allowed it to be fired in arctic conditions while wearing thick gloves.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/HR.jpg

Falcon
March 06, 2008, 20:39
....and a pic of a stripper clip in use.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/t48gunnerinsertt16charger.jpg

Falcon
March 06, 2008, 20:46
Another pic...

Lee Carpentieri
March 06, 2008, 21:04
The trigger guard holding pin was a request of the US Army. It'the reason the 3100 T48,s that FN made didn't have one. I have a H+R T48 lower complete and no its not for sale. I'LL post pics as soon as I can figure out how to, I'm old school when it comes to electronics and computers.

goodorbit
March 06, 2008, 21:23
Thanks for the pics Falcon. They're going in the file. Notice the last one is ann FN. no pin.

Originally posted by Lee Carpentieri
The trigger guard holding pin was a request of the US Army. It'the reason the 3100 T48,s that FN made didn't have one.

So it's a removable pin? Pull pin, stow triggerguard, replace pin to keep TG in place.

I have a H+R T48 lower complete and no its not for sale. I'LL post pics as soon as I can figure out how to, I'm old school when it comes to electronics and computers.

Send it to me, I'll photograph it for you.

Worth a try, right?

101ABN327
March 07, 2008, 21:09
Originally posted by Falcon
....and a pic of a stripper clip in use.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/t48gunnerinsertt16charger.jpg

Interesting! Looks like L1A1 handguards.

dieudonne
March 08, 2008, 09:55
I never knew "shrek" ----see name tag------- carried a t-48



no wonder they say ogre's are dangerous..................

Falcon
March 08, 2008, 12:12
Besides the hole in the PG for the trigger guard retaining pin, I understand the other way to tell if the T-48 is manufactured from FN (or FN derived blueprints) is by the shape of the trigger itself. FN and High Standard (because HS used these blueprints derived from FN) T-48 triggers were much longer and had a straighter profile, whereas H&R triggers were shorter with a rounder profile.

FN T-48 rifles are also generally recognized by the handguard style. FN's had the front sling swivel located on the mid-section of the round and triangular style wood handguards instead of the the traditional barrel mounted swivel.

Those handguards on the H&R T-48 are the same as those supplied on the early Canadian C1 rifles.

goodorbit
March 11, 2008, 10:42
EX1 generously provided these photos of an actual Belgian T-48 PG:

goodorbit
March 11, 2008, 10:44
other side:

goodorbit
March 11, 2008, 10:47
Top front:

goodorbit
March 11, 2008, 10:47
Top Rear:

paladin
March 12, 2008, 14:03
That sure is purdy......Andy:wink:

goodorbit
March 12, 2008, 16:47
Originally posted by paladin
That sure is purdy......Andy:wink:


Hope to see it on a nice T-48 real soon....

Falcon
March 12, 2008, 21:50
more...

http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/HR_T48_R.jpg


http://www.hunt101.com/data/500/HR_T48_L.jpg

moses
March 13, 2008, 15:56
Falcon, where are you getting those pics?

Falcon
March 13, 2008, 17:47
John, the last set are pics of a rifle an aquaintance of mine bought. I'm hoping to get more detailed pics and info soon and when I do, I'll post them.

moses
March 13, 2008, 18:59
So it's an NFA weapon I assume? That's awesome that an Individual has one!
I was lucky enough to be able to go in the basement at the Quantico museum and fondle the 75 T-48's they have there for an entire afternoon about 6 years ago.
I took some video and pictures with a 35mm film camera
I guess I should try to hook that up on youtube soon as I get the time.

Falcon
March 13, 2008, 21:30
Yes, it's classified as NFA.

It would be nice to see the film you have, please let us know when its available.:bow:

goodorbit
March 14, 2008, 10:36
Very nice Falcon! Thank you.

dieudonne
March 16, 2008, 07:05
okay please...............the t-48 looks like an inch variant

from the pistol grip and trigger guard thing

but the buttstock and other things look metric

we were testing FN type rifles???? so why the commonwealth features?

goodorbit
March 16, 2008, 07:37
dieudonne-
T-48 is a metric rifle, the pistol grip & folding trigger guard are unique to the breed. AFAIK
According to L/FN there are two variations of the assembly.

fal fiend
August 03, 2008, 12:15
i think i;d trade all my fals for a semi auto H & R,lol

SIG552
September 02, 2008, 10:41
Originally posted by dieudonne


we were testing FN type rifles???? so why the commonwealth features?

The features you see in the T-48 aren't actually "inch" features but features FN, H&R and High Standard added to the basic FAL model at the request of US Army Ordnance while they tested the FAL, a battle it was destined to lose unfortunately, to the M-14.

At the same time approximately, the UK, Canada and Australian governments had made an agreement on a basic common spec which included some of the features of the T-48 and some unique, new features.

The fact that the T-48 has tabs on the top cover is because without them, the tc would be able to slide foward. It's shorter than the normal tc's and doesn't extend all the way forward to the hole the piston lives in.

HTH,

SIG552