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Bret
August 22, 2000, 07:59
I see that the Steyr StG58 Combo Wrench that DS Arms sells can be used to adjust the gas regulator and for assembly/disassembly of the gas tube nut. What else does it do? Even if it doesn't do something else, it's cheaper than the regular gas regulator wrench, but is it as good? Thanks in advance for your help.

- Bret

EMDII
August 22, 2000, 08:46
The little flat at the aft end makes a decent screwdriver.
It can also be used to press out pins, say in the lower.
You can pick carbon off gas-system components w/ the pointy end.

A Canadian combination tool has a BUNCH of neat things and attachments, but is very rare.

Imagination, Watson!
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EMDII
August 22, 2000, 14:53
Eya!

The d-Camera lies at the bottom of Brest Harbor, France. I'll check to see if'n I've a picture.

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E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II

NZ L1A1 Collector
August 22, 2000, 21:58
I don't really want to steal T2's thunder, but I've but together a pic and description for you about 'INCH' Combination Tools

Legend
A: Extractor Removal Stud
B: Chamber Brush Stud
C: Gas Regulator Key
D: Foresight Adjustment Tool
E: Screwdriver for foresight screw
F: Screwdriver for large screws
G: Gas Port Scraper
H: Wrench for loosening the Gas Plug
I: Scraper for the inside of the Gas Block
J: Scraper for the groove in the Gas Plug

http://www.falfiles.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=372720

The Australian and British Combination Tools are Basically the same, there are a couple of modifications to the design of the screwdrivers, as evident in this pic The AUST is the 1st pattern and the UK one is the late pattern. UK Tools are marked with their part No's. AUST Tools arn't.

The New Zealand made tool is crap, made of poor quality material, the foresight adjustment tool slot is too narrow to fit over the foresight blade! These NZ tools weren't generaly issue due to these faults although we must of purchased 1000's of them!

You will find AUST & UK combo tools mixed up in AUST & UK cleaning kits if they have been in service, as a combo tool is a combo tool.

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Kevin Adams
Rifle, 7.62 mm, L1A1 Collector & Researcher.
NEW ZEALAND

[This message has been edited by NZ L1A1 Collector (edited January 29, 2001).]

ProGun1
August 22, 2000, 23:10
NZ L1A1Collector,
I think it's safe to say that no one here doubts you couldn't come up with such detailed info as you just posted on combo tools. I'm, for one, very impressed with your collection and knowledge of slings, locking shoulders, and now combo tools for starters. Do you have a book out yet? Truly amazing. My hat's off to you.

Ted,
You do have a penchant for losing expensive things in your travels. A person would be wise to follow behind you with a metal detector or a very long string with a magnet attached. http://www.fnfal.com/forums/biggrin.gif

NZ L1A1 Collector
August 23, 2000, 00:19
Thanks ProGun1 for the comments, I was asked recently if I would look at making a CD with all the pics and detail information that I have posted. I will look at the idea, work has a commercial CD burner so that side of it wouldn’t be a problem. Although there would be a charge involved to recoup the costs of the CD/postage etc.

I’m a compulsive and dedicated collector of L1A1’s and related items weather it be parts, manuals, posters, Armourers Instructions or rifles I collect them………. I might have 20,000 rear sight assemblies for the L1A1, but if I sell one I will then only have 19, 999…… it’s the curse of the true collector, they never want to part with ANYTHING (they might need it one day).

I would willingly SWAP parts and items if it meant that the new item would enhance my collection, but selling things really goes against the grain ;-).

I’m always looking for items to add to the collection and am always glad to share my knowledge with those who are willing to receive it. Before I got on the Internet I use to think I was alone in this big bad world, I collect rifles & history the general populous think are BAD and within New Zealand I AM the only dedicated L1A1 collector. Which means I have very few people to amaze with my butt ugly rifles (like the SAF Target Rifle) or the extremely rare Australian X5 serial numbered pre-production L2A1 that was sent to New Zealand in 1961.

The Internet has opened up a whole new world of contacts all over the world from Australia, Italy, Canada, UK to the USA and all sorts of places in between. The only real drawback is the value of the New Zealand dollar currently still on a downslide making buying ANYTHING in US$ extremely expensive (US$100.00 = NZ$227.27) and things don’t look like they will improve in the near future :-(.

I have made the offer in the past …….If there is anything that you guys would like to see a pic of I will do my best to fulfil your wishes (as long as I have the parts/items to do the pic with). I’ve recently been trying to gather up some new gear, but it has gone missing in the post on the slow boat to New Zealand :-( ………probably US$200 worth……. It’s not the money I’m worried about it’s the items… which included the L1A1-F1 Flash Eliminator & Canadian Muzzle covers I got from Larry/FN (I hope I got it round the right way) a complete M17A1 respirator and a L1A2 Grenade Launcher that came out of Canada. Ooohhh well that’s enough of my problems.

Like I said earlier let me know if there are any pics you would like to see :-)

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Kevin Adams
Rifle, 7.62 mm, L1A1 Collector & Researcher.
NEW ZEALAND

NZ L1A1 Collector
August 23, 2000, 03:46
red rider,

If you do manage to find some C1A1 tools could you let me know I'm looking for the C1A1 tool it dosn't have the 'D' tool on it, hopefully they will de at a decent price http://www.fnfal.com/forums/wink.gif

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Kevin Adams
Rifle, 7.62 mm, L1A1 Collector & Researcher.
NEW ZEALAND

EMDII
August 23, 2000, 07:40
Kevin, you aNZac, you. What a great picture, much better than I could have done! You really must have an entire basement full of this tuff.
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Dan- you don't want to hear the half of it. It's a great beer-drinking yarn, though! But that's why I had a 1st Sergeant and 3 Platoon leaders. They were pretty hard to loose, and they more or less kept me squared away! Especially the 1st shirt!
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For the record, I never lost an M1A1 MBT or an M829A1 SABOT round! For my last change of command inventory, I only paid for the Nomex tanker's coveralls I kept, er, lost!
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1*...........Train Like You Fight: Second Place is NOT an Option.

E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II

[This message has been edited by EMDII (edited August 23, 2000).]

EMDII
August 23, 2000, 07:45
IMA, at www.ima-usa.com (http://www.ima-usa.com) (IIRC) had Brit cleaning kits. These came complete w/ c-tool, pull-through, brush, and some other stuff. I don't recall the price.

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1*...........Train Like You Fight: Second Place is NOT an Option.

E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II

W.E.G.
August 03, 2001, 21:24
moved to FAQ

1feral1
July 14, 2002, 03:23
Found this, and I thought it might come in handy for anyone who has the tool, and has not yet quite figured out it's '1001' uses.

Cheers,
1feral1

1feral1
July 14, 2002, 03:26
At the tip of No.3, there is front sight adjuster. A different tool from its cousin UK tool.

cadillac
July 14, 2002, 10:25
1feral1

How about a diagram for the UK/Aussie Tool?

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 15, 2002, 00:11
Here's a replacement pic to replace the red X

Legend
A: Extractor Removal Stud
B: Chamber Brush Stud
C: Gas Regulator Key
D: Foresight Adjustment Tool
E: Screwdriver for foresight screw
F: Screwdriver for large screws
G: Gas Port Scraper
H: Wrench for loosening the Gas Plug
I: Scraper for the inside of the Gas Block
J: Scraper for the groove in the Gas Plug

NZ L1A1 Collector
July 15, 2002, 00:16
Here's what each function does :)

Legend
A: Extractor Removal Stud
B: Chamber Brush Stud
C: Gas Regulator Key
D: Foresight Adjustment Tool
E: Screwdriver for foresight screw
F: Screwdriver for large screws
G: Gas Port Scraper
H: Wrench for loosening the Gas Plug
I: Scraper for the inside of the Gas Block
J: Scraper for the groove in the Gas Plug

RRotz
July 16, 2002, 08:47
Where are the can openers?

:love:

Waldo1
July 16, 2002, 08:53
Item 'D', the 'Foreskin Adjustment Tool', sounds pretty painful!! There has GOT to be some other.... just re-read the post... sorry...

Waldo1:rofl:

Sergeant
July 20, 2002, 11:19
So where can I get one of the Canuck tools? Anybody got them out there for sale?

Sergeant