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Jen
September 04, 2000, 10:34
Saw a post in the ammo area and thought 'we need a faq on this' http://www.fnfal.com/forums/smile.gif

For information on headstamps from a whole bunch of countires: http://members.home.net/cstein0/uscenter.htm

Please correct any that are not right, and feel free to add to the list. This is just based off one board users mixed lot of milsurp.

MilSurp Ammo:<TABLE BORDER="1"><TR><TD WIDTH="30%" ALIGN="RIGHT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">TZ, TZZ: **</TD><TD WIDTH="70%"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">Israeli</TD></TR>
<TR><TD ALIGN="RIGHT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">SMI: **</TD><TD><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">Italian</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN="RIGHT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">IVI (upside down): **</TD><TD><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">Canadian</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN="RIGHT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">A plus the nato sign plus year: **</TD><TD><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">Aquila? [PMP, South Africa]</TD></TR><TR><TD ALIGN="RIGHT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">ZV: **</TD><TD><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">Chech</TD></TR>
<TR><TD ALIGN="RIGHT"><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">UK, in kind of an arab script: **</TD><TD><FONT FACE="Tahoma" SIZE="-1">Egyptian?</TD></TR>
</TABLE>

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recce
September 04, 2000, 11:27
IVI isn't upside down on the casing (unless you read it from the wrong angle of course)

EMDII
September 08, 2000, 02:04
ACP

Arms Corporation of the Philippines

Will have year of manufacture and caliber in metric (7.62 or 5.56).
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HXP

Greek (Hellenic?)
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POF
7 66

Pakistani Ordnance Factory

British .303 Ammunition, usually. Last two digits mean date of manufacture. Single digit apparently refers to 'Mark 7'.
(Many thanks for the post w/ info)
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MAL
7.62 8-83

Malaysian, calibver and month/year of manufacture
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NATO cross-in-circle
FNM 81-39

Portuguese
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.308 WIN
CBC

Brazilian, non-MilSpec
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NATO cross-in-circle
RG 89

British Radway Green w/ year of manufacture
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IMI
.308 WIN

Israeli Military Industries is what I thought, too. Have any seen an American firm using this name for pull-down reloads?
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80
*7,62x51*

?????
NO NATO cross-in-circle! Hirtenberger?
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NATO cross-in-circle
BF 79 55

?
Hirtenberger again?
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CAVIM
91

Venezuelan w/ year of manufacture
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recce
September 08, 2000, 08:37
IMI is from Isreal and POF stands for Pakistan Ordinace Factory.

EMDII
September 08, 2000, 11:48
Thanks, recce

NZ L1A1 Collector
September 24, 2000, 18:39
From top left to right then down.

*NOTE* '+' symbol represents NATO cross in circle

MARKINGS:

FN 63 + (FN, Grenade Blank)
MF F1A1 70 (Australian, Blank)
YN 74 (Israeli, Grenade Blank)
DAG 7.62 x 51 (German, Blank)
OFN 73 7.62 (??, Blank)
DAG 7.62 x 52 (German, Special blow back Blank)
MEN-86 (German, Ball)
RG 58 7.62 L3A1 (British, Inspectors Round)
(Iraqi, Tracer)
(Iraqi, Ball)
TZ 76 (Israeli, Ball)
ZV 7,62 70 (Czechoslovak, Ball)
CAC 65 L2A2 (New Zealand, Ball)
HF 7.62 (Austrian, Ball)
MF F4 80 (Australian, Ball)
MF F3 7.62 69 (Australian, Tracer)
LC 68 + (USA, Ball)
WRA 68 + (USA, Ball)
TW 68 + (USA, Ball)
RG 59 L2A2 + (British, Ball)

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=nzl1a1collector&album_id=25857&image_id=9&courtesy=1

http://www.printroom.com/_vti_bin/ViewImage.dll?userid=nzl1a1collector&album_id=25857&image_id=1&courtesy=1

2nd Pic top Left to Right;

TW 68 + (USA, Ball)
LC 68 + (USA, Ball)
MF F4 80 (Australian, Ball)
CAC 65 L2A2 (New Zealand, Ball)
TZ 76 (Israeli, Ball)
(Iraqi, Tracer)
MEN-86 (German, Ball)
OFN 73 7.62 (??, Blank)
YN 74 (Israeli, Grenade Blank)
FN 63 + (FN, Grenade Blank)

Bottom Left to Right;

RG 59 L2A2 + (British, Ball)
WRA 68 + (USA, Ball)
MF F3 7.62 69 (Australian, Tracer)
HF 7.62 (Austrian, Ball)
ZV 7,62 70 (Czechoslovak, Ball)
(Iraqi, Ball)
RG 58 7.62 L3A1 (British, Inspectors Round)
DAG 7.62 x 52 (German, Special blow back Blank)
DAG 7.62 x 51 (German, Blank)
MF F1A1 70 (Australian, Blank)

If I've made any mistakes let me know and I will change the text


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Kevin Adams
Rifle, 7.62 mm, L1A1 Collector & Researcher.
NEW ZEALAND

[This message has been edited by NZ L1A1 Collector (edited October 27, 2000).]

EMDII
September 26, 2000, 06:55
Amazing! Keep this up and you're going to HAVE to write a book.

http://www.fnfal.com/forums/wink.gif

PS-

NZ this is EMDII, adjust fire
Two CI clips moving southwest from TRP1 vic Evans GA-
DPICM (dual purpose, intercontinental mail)
Fire!
*****
Shot, Over!

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1*.....Train Like You Fight: Second Place is NOT an Option.

E.M. (Ted) Dannemiller II

PhrogPhlyer
October 27, 2000, 12:31
Originally posted by NZ L1A1 Collector:
From top left to right then down.

*NOTE* '+' symbol represents NATO cross in circle

MARKINGS:

FN 63 + (FN, Grenade Blank)
MF F1A1 70 (Australian, Blank)
YN 74 (Israeli, Grenade Blank)
DAG 7.62 x 51 (German, Blank)
OFN 73 7.62 (??, Blank)
DAG 7.62 x 52 (German, Special blow back Blank)
MEN-86 (German, Ball)
RG 58 7.62 L3A1 (British, Inspectors Round)
(Iraqi, Tracer)
(Iraqi, Ball)
TZ 76 (Israeli, Ball)
ZV 7,62 70 (Czechoslovak, Ball)
CAC 65 L2A2 (New Zealand, Ball)
HF 7.62 (Austrian, Ball)
MF F4 80 (Australian, Ball)
MF F3 7.62 69 (Australian, Tracer)
LC 68 + (USA, Ball)
WRA 68 + (USA, Ball)
TW 68 + (?, Ball)
RG 59 L2A2 + (British, Ball)

2nd Pic top Left to Right;

TW 68 + (?, Ball)
LC 68 + (USA, Ball)
MF F4 80 (Australian, Ball)
CAC 65 L2A2 (New Zealand, Ball)
TZ 76 (Israeli, Ball)
(Iraqi, Tracer)
MEN-86 (German, Ball)
OFN 73 7.62 (??, Blank)
YN 74 (Israeli, Grenade Blank)
FN 63 + (FN, Grenade Blank)

Bottom Left to Right;

RG 59 L2A2 + (British, Ball)
WRA 68 + (USA, Ball)
MF F3 7.62 69 (Australian, Tracer)
HF 7.62 (Austrian, Ball)
ZV 7,62 70 (Czechoslovak, Ball)
(Iraqi, Ball)
RG 58 7.62 L3A1 (British, Inspectors Round)
DAG 7.62 x 52 (German, Special blow back Blank)
DAG 7.62 x 51 (German, Blank)
MF F1A1 70 (Australian, Blank)

If I've made any mistakes let me know and I will change the text



Ay NZ L1A1, FYI--- "TW" stands for Twin Cities Munitions Factory located in the USA. PhrogPhlyer, OUT.

Thanx for the info, I've removed the pics to save space

[This message has been edited by NZ L1A1 Collector (edited October 27, 2000).]