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gcc
September 21, 2000, 14:12
Since there is currently so much interest in African FALs, I went and dug up some old pictures:

These FALs in the hands of the Rhodesian African Rifles have the grenade launching sight and paint. Note that the handguards are not cut for bipod. Hey! Maybe some of our R1s are in this picture!

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1155903&a=8494508&p=28910897&Sequence=0&res=high

These Rhodesian troops are engaging ZANLA guerillas at the border with Mozambique. Note the paint on the magazine. The mags on my R1 kits don't have the paint. Were any of yours painted?

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1155903&a=8494508&p=28911588&Sequence=0&res=high

Ahh my favorite pic: Grey's Scouts on recon in the bush. I wonder where these guys are today.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1155903&a=8494508&p=28914004&Sequence=0&res=high

Jerrod
September 21, 2000, 14:23
Great Pics! ITN news always shows lots of film footage down in africa with those marine commandos training african army squaddies on the finer points of FAL handling! GREAT STUFF!

BTW, i'd hate to be on the receiving end of that grenade volley!

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Mildot
September 21, 2000, 14:33
Hey I see mine!! Its the 5th one in line in the top pic. http://www.fnfal.com/forums/smile.gif

Great pics, keep em coming.

mildot

Paul.S
September 21, 2000, 15:18
Thanks for the great pics gcc! The ugly camo looks a lot better when you see it being used to good effect. Iím doing a gun with the original camo for sure now! After seeing the camo on these guns Iím wondering if they are the guns FA and Wholesale are selling.

MacAleese
September 21, 2000, 17:22
Cool beans!!! Always like to see pictures of Rhodesia in conflict!

Jerrod
September 21, 2000, 17:24
HEY! Its Phillips again! j/k foghorn!

gcc
September 21, 2000, 20:10
These are Rhodesian African Rifles investigating suspected ZAPU activities in their AO. I wasn't expecting to see them carrying SLRs. From time to time, I do come across unusual pictures. I'm trying to find one that shows a British trooper carrying what looks like an Aussie L1A1.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1155903&a=8494508&p=28914499&Sequence=0&res=high

....and moving North to Central Africa, these are mercenaries involved in the Katangan conflict in the Belgian Congo. I don't know if those rockets/grenades are for these FALs. The FAL on the left can launch grenades. To me, the most interesting aspect of the rifle on the right is the metal cocking handle. Only one of the R1s I received from Harlan has a metal cocking handle. Man, except for the missing flash hider, that one looks just like my R1! {I have the goosebumps}

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1155903&a=8494508&p=28912267&Sequence=0&res=high

BigOne
September 22, 2000, 20:13
In a lot of the picture that are taken later in the conflict, you will find that the carry handles have been removed from Rhodesian army FN's. This was due to the fact that in bush conflicts, too many guys were killed because they were carrying by the carry handle and did not have the gun at ready.

Yes, this is fact. Right from the mouth of a white Rhodesian army officer. Also, I saw them removed when there, right near the end.

gcc
September 22, 2000, 20:34
BigOne, it has just dawned on me that I have never seen a picture of these guys with their FALs slung over their shoulder. It is usually cradled in the "non aggressive stance." Really professional bunch.

EMDII
September 23, 2000, 07:16
I briefly visited an American serving in Selous Scouts. All their FALs had 'missing' handles, IIRC. Sadly, I declined the offer of employment- I was a guest of the Saudi Arabians at the time.

Great Pics gcc! Thanks for refurbishing a fond memory. Love those RGs!

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gcc
September 23, 2000, 12:42
OK I know this isn't in Africa. This is an Argentine conscript in the Falklands just prior to the Royal paras disembarking at San Carlos. Note that his FAL sports the open front sight similar to the L1A1. According to the Stevens book, this is a post 1965 FMAP FAL. I wonder when FMAP reverted to the closed sight. My Argie LSR "Modelo IV" has a closed sight.

http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=1155903&a=8494508&p=28914503&Sequence=0&res=high

Do you guys think that this is a good carry position? It does allow for pretty quick target acquisition, even though it projects an impression of sloppy soldiering, imo.

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Paul.S
September 23, 2000, 13:05
Originally posted by gcc:
OK I know this isn't in Africa. This is an Argentine conscript in the Falklands.....

Is that a 30 round mag???? -Paul

gcc
September 23, 2000, 15:38
Looks like a 20 rounder to me.

Mildot
September 23, 2000, 16:03
Yep thats a 20rd. mag.

Thanks for the pics!! Sure is great to see some pics of FAL's in action.

Brian in MN
September 25, 2000, 18:55
That looks like an "FAL Canada", no flash suppressor and a bayonet lug on the barrel.

gcc
September 25, 2000, 20:16
I'm quite sure its an argie. This FAL looks like it did have a flash hider at one time.

Mr pogo
September 26, 2000, 02:27
And now for something different http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net7/icon_smile_lachuh.gif http://smilecwm.tripod.com/net6/laugh2.gif

http://www.mazoe.com/TheGuys.jpg


And something less bizarre http://www.fnfal.com/forums/wink.gif

http://www.mazoe.com/bishop2.jpg

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Charlie14
September 26, 2000, 07:28
Some of you folks might already be aware of this site, but take a look at-- www.mindzeye.co.za/war.html. Browse around, there's a bunch of photos, mostly Rhodesian. I'd give you a hot link but for some reason this board won't allow me to cut and paste links.

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