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Dawgtraxx
August 28, 2007, 16:19
just picked one of these up...i have a wasr 10..i know just enough about ak's to be dangerous..although i am learning..are these chinese ak's decent?..better than the romy?...i am only going to keep one...what should i look for on the norinco?
thanks in advance
Ed

hockeysew
August 28, 2007, 19:30
Damn arguably the best example of a classic AK47 platform. Good quality,good shooters.
I remember when you could score them all day at any show for $200-250
What did you pick it up for if you dont mind. I looked at a couple last gun show but didnt have that kind of change to play with.

Keep the WASR and send the Norinco to me:devil: :devil:

Dawgtraxx
August 28, 2007, 19:46
i ended up taking it in trade..after the dust settles i'll have about 350.00 in it.
shoots very well...ahhhhhhh no trigger slap...no rattling mags


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5508.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5511.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5513.jpg

hockeysew
August 28, 2007, 19:57
Originally posted by Dawgtraxx
i ended up taking it in trade..after the dust settles i'll have about 350.00 in it.
shoots very well...ahhhhhhh no trigger slap...no rattling mags


http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5508.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5511.jpg

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5513.jpg

Damn!
That is a helluva a deal. Last show here in CO the couple that I saw were pushing close to twice that.

Dawgtraxx
August 28, 2007, 20:14
well i guess the romy goes bye bye

Vorpal_weapon
August 29, 2007, 09:37
I've had many AKs over the last 20 yrs. The early Sile import Norinco rifles are among my favorites. I think they are presently undervalued, mostly due to the vast number of inexpensive Century AKs (which are in no way equal). The Polytechs seem to command a slight premium, but I don't see it (I never liked the permanent bayonet attachment) – the Legend models are pretty awesome however.

Of all my AKs, I have a Sile import 56S (nice finish and truly a very good shooter) that is my overall favorite. I replaced the furniture with a late Russian laminated AKM set (bakelite grip) – just my taste (I keep the old furniture in my spares chest).

I figure that 350 for that rifle is a STEAL - I wouldn't take a grand for mine. You better hang on to it – It goes in the chest marked “Break Only in Case of War.”

MACV
August 29, 2007, 09:46
Probably the best AK ever imported. I had one years ago.

chet
August 29, 2007, 11:04
I grew up shooting my brother's underfolder 56S-1 and I still think it's one of the best out there. Some have said the Chinese didn't heat treat the receivers like others did and that may be true, but that 56S-1 has untold rounds through it and I can't see any problems with the receiver nor have I ever heard a complaint about the 56. Pull trigger=bang every time.
I'd love to have one myself, if nothing else to remember my childhood days shooting with my little brother. Doesn't every home need a Chinese AK?
Classic weapon.
Chet

Dawgtraxx
August 29, 2007, 21:40
i went and put a couple hundred rounds through it today....not one hiccup..however the frt sight seems to be adjusted to rt of center,,no cant on the gas block that i can see..it seems to shoot dead on at 50 yards.. i just dont like the way the frt sight is moved over, any ideas?

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e311/dawgtraxx/100_5545.jpg

Abominog
August 29, 2007, 22:17
Mr. Dawg,

Don't worry about the sight, that's why they are adjustable. That is the way manmade (chinese) things are.

In case it's not obvious, this is far superior to your Romy...at least as a financial investment. If it were me, I'd toss the 56s in the safe and shoot the shi* out of the Romy.

Note that these are blued, not parked, so will wear faster. Watch the slings swivels and hardware, and (if you're A.R.) wipe it down with a silicon cloth when you're done.

You got a good deal. Don't treat it like a $300 rifle...well, unless you can, then have fun!

Dawgtraxx
August 29, 2007, 22:44
oh i am very AR,,it will be taken very good care of...i will usually shoot a couple of carbine matches a month i love takin this thing out against all them high dolllar ar's..it will run with em all day long..and my mags dont fall out...lol....are the barrels chrome lined on these?

izaakb
August 30, 2007, 05:56
I have several chinese AKs -- 2 Norincos, a Polytech and one 56s just like yours. Overall, they are the best of the commercial AKs. Check the thickness of the receiver metal -- they are 1.5mm instead of 1mm on the Romanians, just slightly heavier.

I've found no issues whatsoever with stiffness or hardness of the metal. My early import Norinco has blasted tens of thousands of rounds with no noticeable difference in the pin holes and it still goes fine. I can't remember how many times I've bump fired a 50 round drum empty from it.

I don't know why the Sile, NY models are so nice, but they seem to be the best of the lot in various ways. Cosmetically, they are the nicest and the furniture seems to be Chinese birch (they have like 40 different varieties of birch) which have some of the hardest wood of the birch family.

My Norinco shoots like clockwork, but the finish is so-so. The Sile 56s (which I believe is from a Polytech factory) is much nicer.

I bought one NIB 3 years ago for 850. You got a great price.

indy_Muaddib
August 30, 2007, 13:53
gotta get you a spike bayonet and chicom hand guard on that thing now.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/type56.jpg

Windustsearch
August 30, 2007, 22:23
I had a Sile 56S-1, loved it. I wish I still had it.

Dawgtraxx
August 30, 2007, 23:14
thanks ya'll scout...very very nice

izaakb
August 31, 2007, 07:54
Originally posted by indy_Muaddib
gotta get you a spike bayonet and chicom hand guard on that thing now.

spike bayonets were only on a few chinese models and requires a different sight assembly.

i prefer the knife bayonet anyhow, esp the soviet multi-tool types with the wire cutters.

Windustsearch
August 31, 2007, 10:38
Yep, the folding bayos were at least mostly on the Poly Tech AKS-7.62 models, which are their stamped guns. There was a lot of variability in what got imported though and it wouldn't surprise me to see a Norinco with one. I am about dead sure I once saw a milled Norinco with the typical orange wood, before they began importing the Poly Tech AK-47/S and Legend models.

Dawgtraxx
August 31, 2007, 10:49
it came with a blade type bayo..will post some new pics tonight

Vorpal_weapon
August 31, 2007, 15:23
On your todo list, you may want to make a note to get some of the copper-washed, steel-core Chinese ammo - just for the war chest. My 56S really seems to like it.

Dawgtraxx
August 31, 2007, 15:39
Originally posted by Vorpal_weapon
On your todo list, you may want to make a note to get some of the copper-washed, steel-core Chinese ammo - just for the war chest. My 56S really seems to like it.

i would like to get some..any ideas where i might get my hands on some?

Dawgtraxx
September 02, 2007, 17:47
how can you tell if it is a pre or post ban ?

izaakb
September 02, 2007, 18:06
Originally posted by Dawgtraxx
how can you tell if it is a pre or post ban ?

all of the Chinese stuff is pre-ban due to the '89 ban which banned anything without "sporting purpose" (which is why you have the MAK90) and the later changes which banned imports from PLA-owned companies.

pretty much anything norinco or polytech makes is banned now.

Windustsearch
September 03, 2007, 01:46
Your rifle is a preban (pre-89). The MAK90s do not have bayonet lugs like yours (AKM lug on the gas block and AK-47 front sight). A standard AKM bayonet will work with it. The value would be something like $700 or $800.