Pics of the twins.....

[AR-45ACP]

I think even Mister Hefner would be jelous of these two! :D :D
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=270647&a=9702665&p=49902733&Sequence=0&res
http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?u=270647&a=9702665&p=49902915&Sequence=0&res

[hsp223]

Nice Babes, must be a set of fraternal twins as I see some differences. Concieved at the same time, Born at the same time but of two seperate guns not from one that subsequently divided into two.

[RRotz]

I love my .223 FAL. RatFAL i call it.

[Bruce Allen]

What kind of accuracy does the .223 FAL produce??

I did not know there were such a thing as a .223 FAL until about 6 months ago.

[TROJAN]

Bruce,
Springfield Armory supposedly imported 1500-3000 units....Early rifles were marked Colona,IL and later rifles had Genesco, IL on the right side of the reciver...Early rifles had threaded bbls with a fake flash supp like the one on AR-45ACP's rifle...Later rifles came with a non threaded bbl and had a slip over fake flash hider(looks better than the earlier version)held on by a slotted set screw....There is a rifle for sale for 1300 and comes with a bipod..look on the for sale board...Good luck!

[AR-45ACP]

Well on the first time out I couldn't keep it on paper at 100yds I about defacated myself :eek: till I changed mags apparently this thing has a 1-12bbl cause it hates SS109.anyhow using South African my best 5rd group is .75" @100yds average is about 1.5-2"

[Richard Bird]

AR-45ACP,
Your slings are on backwards. The metal should be inboard so contact won't clang against anything.

[TROJAN]

Correction,...per Springfield's Catalog:

The SAR 4800 .308 caliber/7.62mm with 21" bbl has a 1:12 RH four groove

The SAR 4800 2.23 caliber/5.56mm with 18" bbl has a 1:10 RH six-groove

[AR-45ACP]

Originally posted by Richard Bird:
<STRONG>AR-45ACP,
Your slings are on backwards. The metal should be inboard so contact won't clang against anything.</STRONG>

Richard, I put them on backwards so they don't clang against the rifle and scratch up the finish.

[AR-45ACP]

Originally posted by TROJAN:
<STRONG>Correction,...per Springfield's Catalog:

The SAR 4800 .308 caliber/7.62mm with 21" bbl has a 1:12 RH four groove

The SAR 4800 2.23 caliber/5.56mm with 18" bbl has a 1:10 RH six-groove</STRONG>

Trojan,Thanks for the info.You would think that the ss109 ammo would have performed a little better than it did considering that a 1:9 or faster is recomended for that type of ammo,Oh well atleast it works well out of my AR

[FALshot]

A nice pair 45/ACP.

My .223 FAL is my favorite too. I wish the pictures on my little web site could do more justice to the finish George Gouger put on it.

Bill Woodward
FALshot
Portland, OR.
http://members.home.net/deanrich/falshot.htm

[ June 09, 2001: Message edited by: FALshot ]

[bpstyle007]

What type of carry handle do you have on the 7.62, and where did you get it?

[jimmyjoebob]

bp-
looks like a stg58 go to gunthings.com I think they are around $20.
HTH
James

[AR-45ACP]

Originally posted by bpstyle007:
<STRONG>What type of carry handle do you have on the 7.62, and where did you get it?</STRONG>

Actually it is a Israeli HB carry handle that has been twisted 180 degrees.

I swapped this out when I put the DSA mount on, as anyone who has a mount and a standard carry handle knows that combo equals bleeding knuckles.

[tunashark]

I see that your .223 has the flared style muzzle attachment. Mine has the straight traditional AR look alike muzzle attachment. I'm thinking of putting something else on it to protect the crown. There is a small set screw on the bottom. I do not want to do any irreparable damage to this. What is the next step in removing the old faux attachment? I don't want to make an unsuccessful attempt and have a buggered barrel. TIA :confused:

P.S. How did you go about bending the Izzy HB carry handle, brute force or some heat application? I like it a lot.

[ June 24, 2001: Message edited by: tunashark ]

[FootLongCuban]

TunaSandwich, That Izzy carry handle isnt bent. Its just on backwards.

Now why would you want to remove that clever looking birdcage muzzle device from your .223 FAL? Are we thinking of replacing it with a post-ban legal Moses style break or something like that...Hmmmmmm??????


"Friends dont let friends build on a Hesse receiver."

[AR-45ACP]

Originally posted by tunashark:
<STRONG>I see that your .223 has the flared style muzzle attachment. Mine has the straight traditional AR look alike muzzle attachment. I'm thinking of putting something else on it to protect the crown. There is a small set screw on the bottom. I do not want to do any irreparable damage to this. What is the next step in removing the old faux attachment? I don't want to make an unsuccessful attempt and have a buggered barrel. TIA :confused:

P.S. How did you go about bending the Izzy HB carry handle, brute force or some heat application? I like it a lot.

[ June 24, 2001: Message edited by: tunashark ]</STRONG>

Tuna, I don't know how the later fake FH were installed or how you would get aeay with replacing without a refinish anyway so I personally would send it out and have it done.

On the carry handle you put the loop end in a vise or other device, heat stem near loop quickly with oxy/ace or mapp gas as with propane you risk loosing the plastic handle :( then when red twist handle 180 degrees and voila.DSA has HB handles new $5

[AR-45ACP]

Originally posted by FootLongCuban:
<STRONG>TunaSandwich, That Izzy carry handle isnt bent. Its just on backwards.

Now why would you want to remove that clever looking birdcage muzzle device from your .223 FAL? Are we thinking of replacing it with a post-ban legal Moses style break or something like that...Hmmmmmm??????


"Friends dont let friends build on a Hesse receiver."</STRONG>

FLC, the HB handle is twisted.If you just put it on backwards it will not fold down against the reciever and sticks just about straight out.