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Truckinmike
July 27, 2007, 08:10
I'm going to try my hand at making a stock for my T48 clone. I cut 4 blanks out of a tree(mesquite) that I cut down about three years ago..its hard and dry.

I partially shaped and sanded one blank just to see what it would look like. I think it turned out ok... But then again, i really don't know what i'm doing. Can anybody tell me if I cut the blanks with grain in the correct direction? Any ideas on cutting the blanks to make the grain look better?

Also are there any tips on drilling the hole? I do not have a drill press.

I'm by no means a craftsman. Tinkerer at best. But the tree was there...so why not use it??

Note: the blanks were cut with with the receiver end facing up. As if you carved a rifle out of the tree with the butt on the ground.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1157/910411072_eaa1e19b83_o.jpg

Truckinmike
July 27, 2007, 22:03
Well, I made it. However I destroyed one stock blank in the process. Warning: If you do not have a drill press, do not try drilling one long hole all the way through. And start from the receiver side. I came out 1/2" off target. Drill from both sides, its much easier.

I have shaped the stock just to get an idea of what the grain is going to look like...I still have a lot of material to remove.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1010/922198503_a58b629c1e_b.jpg

BJS
July 27, 2007, 22:19
It looks like your off to a good start. The mesquite is very pretty. Keep us posted on your progress. Good luck!

elbo
July 28, 2007, 18:45
:bow:
Hole drilled and it looks like the inletting went well. Very nice.
The hard part is done. Go slow, it's hard to add back!

Is the destroyed blank fit to make a pistol grip?

Truckinmike
July 28, 2007, 19:25
Pistol Grip?... I don't see why not... However, I still have the stump in the ground. I was thinking of digging it up for more wood. I burned the rest in my burn pile... I think satan had ahold of me that day...:cry:.. I thought about not burning it... but that didn't get me anywhere. Actually, as it was burning I grabbed my chainsaw and wacked off the bottom 3 feet of the tree and pulled it out of the fire still burning.

And thus begins 922r compliant stock.

Here is the latest pic from this afternoon. I still have a lot of material to remove. And you will notice the high hump... I cut it for perfect cheek weld. The hard part is going to be shaping the wood to the receivers complex profile. Thats next.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1192/932501165_608be5abff_o.jpg

Truckinmike
July 28, 2007, 21:54
A better shot of the grain...

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1238/934627028_77d5f48c57_b.jpg

Truckinmike
July 29, 2007, 00:48
Getting Closer.. I've made a couple of 30 degree tapers off the receiver to give it a smooth transition from the metal to the thicker wood. I also gave it a better waist. But I still need to work on the butt pad area... Almost done:biggrin:

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1199/934969559_00c61a6f9c_o.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/936101330_0776b2e4bb_o.jpg

Truckinmike
July 29, 2007, 08:13
Since you've seen this stock from start to finish I thought I should at least show you the slab from which it came.

NOTE: When cutting blanks, cut them 3"plus thick. If I would have done that, I could have salvaged the blank that I destroyed while trying to drill the hole(w/ a hand drill). In fact salvage is not even the correct word. It would have been A-OK just the way it was... and I would not have had to do ANY extra gouging or reaming... I would have simply formed the stock around the perfectly uniform hole. There is MORE room for error when you use a thick piece of wood. Lesson learned.:p

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1253/910411128_c033d1f432_b.jpg

Racer
July 29, 2007, 18:16
Nice looking stock!

I never realized that Mesquite was so pretty. All that I've ever used it for is BBQ.

Now you've given me an idea what to use that piece of Persimmon for thats sitting on the wood rack.

What angle did you drill the hole?

Carl

Truckinmike
July 29, 2007, 19:56
you've given me an idea what to use that piece of Persimmon for thats sitting on the wood rack.

heck yeah... carve it up.

I found out that there is a company about 2 miles from my house that makes Pool tables out of everything...They like the exotic colors and textures. They had two pool tables made of mesquite when I went in to ask about grain direction strength, and staining/oiling. One had the real rustic look ..as if they cut slabs off the tree, sanded and oiled with worm holes and all. The other was completely milled... very clean and refined. They both looked good. So the point is ask around, maybe persimmon is a good hard wood.

And..... Angle, whats that?...It was eyeballed in there. I drew a line that represented the hole on top of the blank and tried to stay with it as I drilled.

From this experience, my next project will get drilled on a Press. Use a 3" thick chunk of wood . Then attach it to the receiver and shape to fit. That way you have a perfect hole. No wollering of the hole, or difficult fitting required. just shape to fit.---Helpful hint: install the butt pad very early in the game

Truckinmike

bykerhd
July 30, 2007, 07:22
I tried the drill press thing for an FAL stock. Didnt work at all. My press anyway. Ended up drilling by hand and drilling that walnut is MEAN !

Unless you are setting up for production purposes, drill the hole, and then work from there. You can usually get two FAL buttstocks and a couple pistol grips out of most unshaped wood rifle gunstock blanks. Something to keep in mind as you wander around gun shows.
I've been tempted to try cranking out a stock set out of a laminated blank. Numrich occasionally offers some for sale at pretty low prices. I should have bought some last time they did.

daveocme
March 03, 2011, 20:27
Good stuff there.

I tried my luck with walnut.

Furniture (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=296357&highlight=wood)

and if you scroll down this one you will find links to the pistol grip and stock.

hand Guard (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=296596)

Hebrew Battle Rifle
March 03, 2011, 21:05
Cool thread. I have been tinkering with F A Ls fro about 8 years or so. I have often considered making my own wooden furniture, but always decided against it just before getting started. Every time that some resourceful FALer makes a thread like this, I get inspired to fire up the band saw. I'll bet that if I had a hunk of that mesquite laying around that I would have made one funky looking stick of firewood out of it:biggrin:

mountainman
March 03, 2011, 21:17
I am wondering if a bridgeport could accomodate drilling such a long hole? I'd start with a jobber drill first then go to a boring bit, but am wondering if teh saddle will go low enough?

daveocme
March 03, 2011, 23:04
The 12" bit I used on the stock was just long enough. I have just got a few more pieces of walnut so I will start my third set soon. The best part is that each set counts as 3 US parts.

def90
March 07, 2011, 16:00
Use an auger bit like the following picture. You can drill the hole first, the long shaft of the auger bit will keep it from wandering and the threaded tip of the auger bit will pull it through the wood without having to push on it. Auger bits drill a rough hole however so you will probably want to drill a slightly undersized hole with an auger and then finish it up with the correct size standard wood drill bit.

Once the hole is drilled then you can orient your stock layout according to the hole.

Auger:
http://drillbitwarehouse.com/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/42d76568435321494776f1ab5c00c7f1.jpg

idsubgun
March 08, 2011, 13:24
Originally posted by mountainman
I am wondering if a bridgeport could accomodate drilling such a long hole? I'd start with a jobber drill first then go to a boring bit, but am wondering if teh saddle will go low enough?

You can clamp it to the side of the table and drill it but remember, you only have about 6" of quill travel so you'll need to use the table to lower the drill (raise the table) into the wood after that.

daveocme
March 08, 2011, 15:17
I have had success into 2" thick stock. Both I use standard length bills of the correct diameter. I have done one on a drill press, and one with a friend to help sight and insure the bit was parallel to the long axis. Once I have drilled in 5-6" I use the 12' aircraft bit in a hand drill and the original hole is enough of a guide in hardwood to make sure you come out straight at the other end.

Dave

mountainman
March 08, 2011, 16:42
So I would spot the hole on my mill then move off to that auger with the threaded tip ( Is that thing capable of maintaining center with hand drill?) and follow up with long drill to clean up the hole. Sounds good.