View Full Version : Just got my Type 3 Entreprise receiver.
August 12, 2001, 11:06
My first impression is that the receiver looks great. There are a few "swirling" machine marks but nothing that is ugly or a problem.
I have the Gun Plumbers video and I was pleased to find that none of the problems he mentioned were present.
I was excited to learn that they have machined out the spot where the etractor moves out when seating on the bullet. Now I don't have to worry about getting in there with the dremel like GP did on the IMBEL which is a huge plus IMO.
The extractor shelf lines up fine without sticking up like the GP says they do. The sides of the receiver look nice and straight too.
I will let you know how the build comes through but it certainly seems like many of Gun plumbers listed "faults" simply do not ring true anymore.
Maybe the build will have some problems but I will be surprised.
August 12, 2001, 12:22
I built one on an Entreprise Type III a few weeks ago. Everything went together great for the most part. There was one minor issue though. The place where the bolt hold open device went in needed a very small amount of filing to remove a burr that it was hanging up on. Other than that, it was perfect.
August 12, 2001, 17:35
Just built up a Entreprise type one,easy money, absolutely flawless,I have a type 3i built a couple years ago had a few minor
problems but Lawrence helped me out.They
back what they sell. :cool:
October 29, 2001, 17:48
where and how much for the entreprise recievers
October 30, 2001, 10:00
Just a note...I just got an STG58 kit, with an Imbel, and comparing the cut reciever to the Imbel, they look pretty much Identical...anyone know if Imbel corrected their receivers as well??
October 30, 2001, 11:57
Originally posted by email@example.com:
<STRONG>where and how much for the entreprise recievers</STRONG>
If you hustle on over to the Marketplace section, you'll see that they are running a special now - type 3 for $179, Type 1 (metric or inch) for $279. They are a bargain, IMO.
I've built 10 this year already on all Entreprise types and they have gone together well.
[ October 30, 2001: Message edited by: Gaspipe ]
October 31, 2001, 11:13
Very happy for you that your E receiver turned out so well. I am sure that the Gunplumber will work on another one and may change his diagnosis. But until that happens, I will defer to his expertise. I believe his review was honest and I also believe that he could increase his business by working on E. receivers. However, he shared his honest evaluation with us, probably to his financial detriment. That type of honesty must be admired. IMHO.
October 31, 2001, 11:35
A big thanks to all of you!
October 31, 2001, 11:40
I put one together Saturday, 2 probs.
One was teh bolt hold open stuck (no biggie), the other was the Ej. block stuck back too far, and caused the locking shoulder to bind whilst being driven in (a little more of a problem, but solved easily)
October 31, 2001, 12:50
Nothing personal but I won't buy one until Gunplumber or Century Gun Works will build on them.
October 31, 2001, 17:10
it wasn't mine... it was a friends.
BUT, the Inch receiver I built my Aussie L1 kit on, was 100%!
October 31, 2001, 19:01
Originally posted by AZ Rocketeer:
<STRONG>Just a note...I just got an STG58 kit, with an Imbel, and comparing the cut reciever to the Imbel, they look pretty much Identical...anyone know if Imbel corrected their receivers as well??</STRONG>
What was wrong with the Imbel's???
October 31, 2001, 22:13
Originally posted by Rifleman44:
<STRONG>by working on E. receivers. However, he shared his honest evaluation with us, probably to his financial detriment. That type of honesty must be admired. IMHO.</STRONG>
Nothing at all against Mark G., his honesty, and his in depth evaulation and experience with Entreprise, but others here have nothing to gain, nor lose, by posting honest evaluations of products, be they from any number of vendors that offer services and tangibles in this forum, either.
For one to unilaterally declare in general that "..unless [so-and-so] uses it, endorses it or sells it, it must not be any good.." is, IMHO, somewhat non-sensical. Unless you are implying that there are some unhonest evaluations being posted in this forum.
In life, you generally get just what you pay for, but every now and again, you come across a bargain. And at $179, a type 3 Entreprise is just that - a bargain. And it counts as a US made part.
And that is my opinion.
October 31, 2001, 22:27
I agree with Gaspipe, for 179.00 might as well try it. I have a STG kit that does not have the best brl. Going to try and make a truck gun out of it. It will be my first build and I would rather have a cheap learning curve that an expensive one.
October 31, 2001, 23:02
Originally posted by WiFAL:
<STRONG>Nothing personal but I won't buy one until Gunplumber or Century Gun Works will build on them.</STRONG>
Hell, I bought a Hesse to see for myself what all the commotion was about. It needs a little fluffing and buffing, but is quite servicable. I suppose GP won't build on one of those either.
Who really cares? I usually encourage thinking for myself.
:eek: :eek: :rolleyes:
[ November 01, 2001: Message edited by: idsubgun ]
November 01, 2001, 10:29
Originally posted by Bruce Allen:
What was wrong with the Imbel's???</STRONG>
Bruce, It wasn't necessarily the Imbels, but in Gumplumbers video, he deburs and slightly relieves the inside of the extractor cutout on the inside of the receiver, because SOMETIMES, with SOME ammo, the extractor when it's opening up to snap around the base of the cartridge, hits this area on the receiver, and causes the bolt not to close fully. Mark (gunplumber)decided to just go ahead and do it on ALL of the receivers he works on, because to to it right, you have to do it with the barrel removed. I left mine alone at this point (mainly because I don't have a flex shaft for my dremel yet
November 02, 2001, 13:20
It's Your American right to do what everyone says you can't. I always go in through the out door whenever possible!?..
November 02, 2001, 13:31
Which one of you is Quick Draw McGraw?
I have two Entreprise receivers: a Type 1 and an Inch. I love both. Good luck w/ your buildup!
November 03, 2001, 15:22
AZ's statement about burring in the extractor relief inside of the receiver made me go get my new DSA and have a look. The DSA has already been deburred so no problem,.. but it seems to me that a small half round needle file and 5 minutes of careful work would be all that was necessary to deburr and relieve that area.
November 03, 2001, 21:49
I have a Type 1 Entreprise and it went together and functioned flawlessly!
Had Albert work on my Hesse for inch mags and to endmill some cast anomalies. Came back looking like a FAL instead of a caramel candy! Thank Laurence and Albert for the great work that you did!! :cool:
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