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Incognito
February 24, 2001, 16:11
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I bought this Israeli combat harness and it was everything I have come to expect from the Israeli's. It is made of heavey duty nylon webbing and condura. All of the pouches on this unit are made of a very strong nylon material that I would say is much thougher than the condura. It is padded on the inside, and the pads are made of what I would call normal condura. The pads are very large and make it very comfortable even when laying on the ground. The shoulder straps are not padded, but are made of 1 1/2 - 2" nylon webbing.

There are four mag pouches, each one will hold 2 mags. There are two grenade puches, each one of them will hold 2 15rd. 9mm pistol mags almost like they were made for them. These grenade pouches will also hold a motorola radio very nicely. There is one smoke grenade pouch which is bigger than the other two grenade pouches. This pouch would hold a larger radio, or maybe a GI angle head flashlight. There is also one other very small pouch which would hold a pair of multipliers, a compass, or other smaller items. There are two canteens, and then there is the small butt pack. All of these pouches have sturdy velcro closures, which I didn't think I would like. But now I see that with the velcro you can pull the pouch flaps down tight and fasten the velcro, and then you don't get any rattle from the mag pouches. Even the 9mm mags do not make any noise when I pull the flap down tight and fasten it. The buttpack is very small, maybe 10" square, and pretty slim, which makes it out of the way if you want to wear another backpack. I have a medium ALICE pack and a large load bearing pack, and they both work very well with this harness.

One of the nice suprise features about this harness is that it works very well with FAL mags. The 20 round FAL mags come almost to the top of the mag pouch, because of the way the mag pouch is cut low in the front. They do not fit too tight at all. In fact they fit perfect. With two FAL mags in the mag pouches, I can slip my index finger into the pouch and easiliy grab the mag. You could put something in the bottom of the pouch to make the FAL mags come up further, but they come out so easily I don't think that would even be necessary. Since the mag pouches fit the 20 rd FAL mags so perfectly, you would think that the 35 rd .223 mags would fit loose and rattle. But with the velcro flap closures I was mentioning above, that is not the case. Just fasten the flap tight and there is no rattle.

This harness is very comfortable in whatever position I am in. I have a 32" waist and it just fits me. It could go smaller if I removed one, or both of the canteens. It will adjust much larger also. It is very easy to get into and even easier to get out of. There is a pull cord, just pull it and the harness unfastens and you can slip out of it.

In conclusion...I would say that this is the best combat harness/load bearing vest setup I've ever seen. its not like a vest, it uses straps so it is very cool and air flows through around your chest and back unlike a vest. My experience with vest is they cause sweat in those areas. I have never owned a South African pattern 83 vest, but I have handled one at a show once. It seemed like a very nice rig, but in my opinion does not compare to this one. However, the price of this one does not begin to compare with the SA gear either. This gear will cost about 2-3 times more than the standard SA 83 pattern set. On a scale of 1-10 I would give this one 11. I have several pictures of this vest on this web site: www.amacominc.com/~anomalos/idf.html (http://www.amacominc.com/~anomalos/idf.html)


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av8tor
February 24, 2001, 18:19
Incognito, did you get this at israelmilitary.com?

Incognito
February 24, 2001, 18:52
No, I got this one through a private individul who used to deal in surplus. He is checking into what kind of price we can get if we ordered a quantity of these items. I don't have an exact figure yet, but I think it will be under $120, or very close to that price. That is about a $25 savings from the cheapest place I have found on the internet. So its still rather expensive. I am going to post something in the group purchases forum just as soon as I know the final price.

RRotz
February 25, 2001, 01:36
great set of web gear! i'd like a set when you can secure some. thanks,
jerrod

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Enquiring Minds
February 26, 2001, 00:44
Incognito, good score on the equipment... http://www.fnfal.com/forums/cool.gif

)It appears most of the pouches have drain holes, to let water out, but not the butt pouch?
)Looks like NO dividers in the mag pouches?
)Where the shoulder straps Y together at the upper back, is that a specialized fixture to attach a matching ruck/pack?
)With your arms always folded in front, I cannot tell what attach points/loops/clips IF ANY are on the front/chest portion of the shoulder straps...?
)What COLORS does it come in? (Brown above, OD on the web site...)

Oh, which LARGE pack is that in your photos, CFP90, Dutch, er whut?

Overall it looks like a clean, well thought out rig.

p.s. we have re-constructed your face just by scanning your ears, and have determined you were NOT at the recent SuperBowl game. Comrade, you must do a better job of supporting mass spectator public sporting events. This msg. brought to you by Big Brother. http://www.fnfal.com/forums/eek.gif

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Incognito
February 26, 2001, 11:13
Questions Questions who's got the answers...oh I guess I do. Or at least some of them.

You are correct, there are drain holes in all pouches except the butt pouch.

You are correct again, there are no dividers in the mag pouches.

Where the shoulder straps Y togher, there is a piece of webbing attached with 2 eyelets in it. I dont' know what it is for. I am not aware of any other packs or rucksacks that attach to this.

On the front chest portion of the straps, there aren't any D rings or anything like that, but there is a piece of wbbing sewen on each strap about 2"wide up near the shoulders. This 2" piece of webbing is sewn vertically in three places, so there are 2 vertical loops. I don't know what it is for. You could slip ALICE connectors through thses loops.

The picture I have posted in my original message came from IMP's web site. The harness only comes in OD Green as my other pictures show. I changed the picture so that it is now a picture of my actual harness. It looks gray in the picture because of the light, but it is OD Green.

I don't know what this large pack is that I have actually. My wife piced it up for me at a garage sale of all places for 3 bucks. Needless to say I was very pleased. Its extremely comfortalbe and well padded and has an internal frame. I actually thought about asking in my original post if anyone could help me identify it. My only complaint about it is that its woodland camo. I hate woodland camo. I wish it was OD green.

Do you think they would have let me show up at the SuerBowl decked out in this gear? Maybe sporting a Galil...you know, for protection. I hear them there large spectator sporting event thingies can get kinda rowdy.



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