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June 22, 2007, 15:57
I've never built a FAL before but would like to try, came across this kit & would like any info you more experienced folks could share. It will be a while before I have the funds to buy one but any idea on what reciever I will need? I don't have a thread gauge at the moment or I would include the pitch.
Stamp on leg of bi-pod, same stamp on butt plate.
June 22, 2007, 16:11
That would be an Isreali Heavy barrel kit.
I believe it would need a Type 2 metric receiver.
Those more knowledgable will be here shortly with lots more information .
June 22, 2007, 16:41
If the barrel is decent, that is a very good score.
This would be a "correct" receiver I believe.
Entreprise Israeli Receiver (http://www.entreprise.com/IsraeliM.htm)
Unfortunately, Entreprise has had some quality control issues in the past. And, whether this particular receiver will ever actually be available from them is an issue.
DSA makes a really good quality receiver. Probably your best bet.
June 22, 2007, 17:38
I think that the Israeli barrels have a slightly different thread to the 16x1" on 'regular' FAL barrels. Maybe 1.5x25mm ? Something like that..
Anyway, the point I am trying to make is that if you buy a DSA receiver it will be threaded 16x1" for the barrel. You might need to spin a 16x1" die on the barrel threads to get them to match up with the receiver.
I don't think you will have that issue with the Entreprise. Other problems, maybe. That problem. No. :)
June 22, 2007, 18:41
That is indeed an Izzy HB (Heavy Barrel) kit. The bipod coupler has been raped and murdered, however. You have the carrying handle in the opposite orientation, it should be pointed forward. The correct receiver for this kit would be a Type-I, not a Type-II. Your rear sight should be a 700-meter version. None of your pics show the rear of the buttstock but it should have a flip-up buttplate. Looks like everything could use a good cleaning up, particularly the wood, and most or all the metal needs refinishing.
The barrel thread problem is that Metric and Inch versions used an SAE standard of 1" diameter threading with 16 threads per inch, while the Israelis used a true metric version of these threads. The difference is ever so slight, but will cause some interference about five threads into the receiver. A quick pass with a 1x16 die will clean up the barrel threads, or you can use some valve-grinding compound on the barrel/receiver threads and work the barrel in and out, in and out until the threads match, somewhere in between true SAE and true Metric.
June 22, 2007, 18:51
Originally posted by Radio
The bipod coupler has been raped and murdered,
Actually that bead weld is common on those izzies. I have seen several come through like that.
June 22, 2007, 18:57
So sorry for you. I've got two that came through complete.
June 22, 2007, 18:58
Thanks for the timely responses folks.
Radio, you are correct on both the flip-up buttplate & the 700m sight. Thanks for the heads up on the carry handle I just assumed they all pointed to the rear. I plan to work on cleaning up & refinishing both the metal & wood while gathering the info, tools, & funds I'll need. The condition of the bipod coupler irritates me, I'll probably just try to smooth it out, have no idea what a pristine one even looks like.
June 22, 2007, 22:47
SARCO was listing some parts for the Israeli Heavy Barrels in their ads.
They may have the couplers. The couplers are not cheap, as I recall.
June 24, 2007, 15:34
Pm sent about stock and handguard
June 24, 2007, 15:48
Originally posted by alcova
Pm sent about stock and handguard
I forgot to ask in my reply, does your stock have the hinged buttplate?
June 24, 2007, 18:54
wamba, read above posts, your question has been asked and answered.
June 24, 2007, 19:04
Radio, wamba and I are discussing something related to but differnt about his stuff, and he was sending me an addendum to his PM
June 24, 2007, 20:36
June 24, 2007, 20:44
wamba, read above posts, but your question has absolutely nothing to do with what has been asked and answered above. We now return you to your previous series of PMs, already in progress. Do not adjust your set.
Sometimes it appears I'm simply an ass,
June 25, 2007, 12:21
Not a problem Radio.:wink: After I had signed out I wondered if that post should be edited for clarity.
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