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armedpeasant
November 18, 2001, 17:38
Took the new TZ-99 to the range, today, and I have a mixed review.

First, the good.

The pistol was at least as accurate as my Glock 17. With my target placed half of the way down the pistol range (however far that is), I was able to keep all of my shots in the black circle of a standard slow-fire pistol target, with most of the shots going into one, big, ragged hole. That is as good as I can shoot, so the pistol seems capable of better accuracy than I am. The ergonomics are very nice. I have medium-sized hands, and the gun fit them very well. I didn't find myself shifting my grip in order to find a more comfortable position. The single action trigger seemed crisp and light, but I don't have any other DA/SA semi-autos, so I really don't have much to compare it to. I would rate the recoil as being similar to my Glock. The pistol really fills up a medium-sized hand, and that probably helps with recoil control.

Now for the bad.

One of the mags failed to engage the slide lock after the last round was fired. This happened the first two or three times that I used that mag. For some reason, it worked fine after that. If anyone has any thoughts on why that happened, I'm all ears. The pistol has a tendency to chuck its empty shells back at your head. Anyone who shoots a Glock should be familiar with this situation. I like to tell myself that getting hit in the head with empty brass, while shooting, conditions me to be able focus on the shooting through distractions.

The big problem was the three failures to extract, out of the 150 rounds I fired. Each time, the mouth of the empty case was still inside the chamber, with the rest of the shell sitting on top of the live round in the magazine. I was using Wolf 115 gr FMJ. I don't know if the FTE's were caused by the ammo, if they were the fault of the gun, or if they were caused by a combination of the two. The extractor claw did not look damaged or worn, and it did not look as if there was any build-up or plating on the claw that would cause this.

The next time I go to the range, I'll put some more Wolf through it, and see if the FTE's continue. I'm hoping that it just needs to be broken-in, or that it just doesn't like Wolf. If the initial bugs go away, I will consider this an excellent purchase for the $270 I paid for it, as it is a nice, comfortable, controllable, accurate shooter. We'll see.

GridSpot
November 18, 2001, 18:42
AP,
Thanks for the review, I'll bet your ammo trouble is due to the wolf ammo. I have some green box russian LVE 9mm ammo which gets stuck in the chamber of a FEG P9RZ pistol I own, in the manner as you describe. When I switched to brass cased ammo (several different brands, including hollowpoints) the problem disappeared. BTW: CDNN Investments sells new TZ-99 15 round mags for $30. Dave.

Cummins_4x4
November 18, 2001, 20:32
I also purchased a TZ99 about a month ago. I am extremly happy with mine and it is as accurate a weapon as have shot. No failure to feed or fire in many boxes of rounds fired. I was shooting Winchester white box from the local WalMart. Armedpeasant break that gun in with some acceptable brass cased ammo and then after about 300rds the Wolf should shoot well. Or buy the Silver Bear Russian with the nickeled case. Its available for less than $6 a box of 50 in 145gr HP. Very good ammo all that nickel cased Russian. Clean up your TZ well after about 250 rounds as it has a paint finish and the paint chips tend to mess things up. Good dousing with Breakfree and all will be well afterwards. Enjoy, these pistols are a bargain.

armedpeasant
November 18, 2001, 22:31
My case of Wolf is getting low, and I've been thinking about switching to brass-cased ammo, anyway. I've read posts on some of the gun boards, where people claim that Wolf 9mm is causing chamber and extractor damage in their pistols. I have no idea if that's true, but it does case a little cocern. PMP 9mm is priced pretty reasonably. Has anyone tried that stuff?

armedpeasant
November 18, 2001, 22:38
GridSpot,

Have you noticed the LVE 9mm to be really corrosive? I've never used the 9mm, but I fed some LVE green box 7.62x54R to an M39 Mosin, and it left a good deal of rust in the barrel, even though the stuff is marked as being non-corrosive.

[ November 18, 2001: Message edited by: armedpeasant ]

Dan's
November 19, 2001, 06:09
Armed Peasant,
If your interested, I have some (3) factory
TZ-99 15 rd magazines for sell. $25 ea.
[the LVE 54r does have a corrosive primer.]

armedpeasant
November 19, 2001, 08:13
Thanks for the offer on the mags. If they're new, that's a good price, but I need to let my credit card cool off for a little while.

sesh
November 19, 2001, 10:40
Armedpeasant,
Thanks for the review. I was thinking of getting one of these since my only SA pistols currently are two CZ-52s and I wanted something a little newer. Yours is the first review I've noticed for the TZ99 and it sounds like a good gun for the money.

GridSpot
November 19, 2001, 13:25
AP,
Nope, the LVE pistol ammo is non-corrosive, but I've heard several reports about the 54R being very corrosive, as you stated. I assume all the ammo going through my M-39s, M-91s, and M-44s to be corrosive and clean with a mixture of ammonia and water first to dissolve the salts. Then a shot of a water displacing lube like WD-40, then a normal cleaning with Hoppes, Sweets etc. I know the LVE 9mm is non-corrosive since I didn't clean the gun for several weeks after shooting it, and when I did, no rust could be found. Since the LVE cost me $97 delivered, I'd rather spend $110 @ Century for the PMP brassed cased stuff. Sesh, www.cruffler.com (http://www.cruffler.com) has a good review of the TZ-99, look under the Gun review of the month archive. Dave.

sesh
November 20, 2001, 09:28
Thanks Gridspot,
I must have missed that one mixed in with all the other great reviews. Cruffler is the culprit that got me hooked on FALs with their R1 building article. They are also to blame for my posession of the CETME, CZ-52, Star Model B and SAR2.