2400 and 7.62 x 39

[owlcreekok]

I found a few load recipes for AK feed on the web a few weeks ago. One of them calls for 13-15 grains of 2400. Velocity is down around 1900 for it. I believe I am going to try 14.0 in a few and see what happens. Anyone else tried this powder ?

I got some Winchester 123 grain pellets I plan to use. I am hoping for a little lighter load. The data I downloaded seems to call most factory loads to be around 22-2300 fps with a pressure of around 33,000. (Max pressure is listed at 50,000) My AK knocks the hell outta the brass. Going to tweak the ejector a bit more. I also note a ding in the case rim from the ejector. I am hoping that I can find a load that will run the thing but be a little more friendly to my brass.

All the stick powders run up in the mid to upper 20's for powder charge. Seems to me if I can get 2400 to run it, I will save a bit on the old powder keg.

Thoughts ?

[gunsmith_tony]

All I've used is AA1680. Made for it.

[Brush511]

2400 seems a little fast to be optimal but the cost savings would be significant if it will function reliably. Give it a try and let us know how it works. All I've used was AA 1680 and I only loaded around 50 (just to see if I could). Now I wish I had more brass. I see Jeff Bartlet has pulled bullets for $80/1000.

[owlcreekok]

I saw those bullets that Mr. Bartlett lists. I might pick some up.

AA1680, you say. What say you two on the comparison to factory fodder ? Are you loading to "duplicate" factory ? Or maybe a little lighter ?

With any luck, I will get some 2400 loaded and tested by the end of this weekend and will post up some results.

Interesting info that I found on that website with the loads. It tells of the ballistics on one of the loads. The sheet is out in the shack, but best I remember it shows the round holding a trajectory out to 250 yards that is pretty useable. I think only 10" drop at 250. I was pretty surprised at that. I would have guessed an AK would be completely out of gas by that range.

[DYNOMIKE]

Hootie~
Let me see what I have written down in my DATA.
I have a X39 Load that worked really well.
Thinking I used H-322 BUT I need to confirm.. I will check later and get back to you..


2400???
Damn Hootie, it aint no PISTOLA you CHEAP Fugger..:devil: :shades:

[owlcreekok]

An AK ain't much kin to a rifle either, so THERE !

[DYNOMIKE]

Originally posted by owlcreekok
An AK ain't much kin to a rifle either, so THERE !

Whata bout an SKS?:wink:

[owlcreekok]

Getting warmer.

:tongue:

[Sig220]

All this talk..................and no action.

Load em and shoot em.

If we see a small mushroom cloud to the West, we will know what happened:rofl:

If you make it through unscathed.....come on back and give us the details.

BTW, use a chrony of Slow's!!:rolleyes:

[DYNOMIKE]

Hey Capt. Jack you Don't write or call anymore where ya been??:devil:
I lost your Number... :uhoh:

HOOTIE, Make sure YOU use the CHRONY and NOT SLOW..
If'n he gets ahold of it, the CHRONY will most certainly no longer Function with Bullet Holes in it.. After he shot up the Target Stands a CHRONY would make a NICE target fer sher..:eek: :tongue:

[owlcreekok]

I lost your Number...

Just press "3".

hth

[Brush511]

When I did it, I was trying to duplicate factory loads with a 122-125 gr. SP. At the time all I had was Wolf FMJ and the only SP I could find was 154 gr. Was planning on using the AK as tractor gun for coyotes. I had about 20-25 cases I'd picked up at the range. Some were large primer, some small. I didn't do a lot of load development. I bought some Hornady 123 gr. SP and I had the AA1680 (.22 Hornet :smile: ). I can't find where I recorded the data, know I didn't shoot groups with it, and didn't even chrono it. I think my BIL has the last 20 rounds in a Hungarian mag. for him to carry on the tractor. Since then I bought some Wolf 12? gr SP. I need to get back to that project. I bought 100 rds. of brass about 6 mons. ago and haven't even opened the bag :sad:.

2400 might test the AK reputation for reliablity. It sure can be dirty shyte. Use to use it alot in .44 mag. Be sure and post your results.

[owlcreekok]

Went to the range with 11 rounds of the ammo;

125 gr Winchester (.311) SP

14 grains of 2400

FC and-or Winchester brass

WLR primer

This load runs the AK just fine. Very much a lighter load than factory stuff. (Winchester white box OR Wolf) (Wolf-Blech)

The rifle had ONE FTE and even so, it had chambered the next round properly, just the spent case did not clear the action. I would expect this light load to do that, but out of 11 rounds fired, this was the only failure of any kind.

IMPORTANT (to me): The brass is NOT dinged with this load like it is when I shoot any other ammo. Also, it is not flung almost as far as the bullet is travelling. :biggrin:

Accuracy: We are talking a fuggin AK, here,, M'kay ? :rolleyes:

I shot the 11 rounds at a rifle sight-in target place 100 yards away. Shooting off my elbows, sitting at a bench, all 11 rounds were easily minute of pie plate. I did not measure, but I will say they were under ten inches apart, many within six inches of each other.

Dirt: WHAT dirt ? This is burning as clean as the Winchester white box, I may have to say CLEANER. (haven't swabbed the bore out yet, just got back) I WOULD say it is a lot cleaner than Wolf, but you knew that already.

SO, for plinking around, I will be using this load some more.

YMMV and yer babies may be borned nekkid.