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easttex
August 31, 2006, 20:16
My resident AR expert didn't think all that much of Stag Arms last time I talked to him. He didn't give any specific reason - just kinda thought they were of lesser quality somehow. However, they have an upper that I've been eyeballing for a while.

How does Stag Arms rank in terms of function, fit, and general accuracy? Anybody dislike them? And if so, why?

Beepy
August 31, 2006, 23:13
Only bad thing about them some say is the cheesy deer head on the side. Other than that it is the same lower as Rock River Arms..... and unless your resident AR guru has something against them??? (I wouldn't think so)

I have built 3 rifles of various configs on stag lowers, all worked outstandingly (is that a word?)

bigant
August 31, 2006, 23:14
Originally posted by easttex
My resident AR expert didn't think all that much of Stag Arms last time I talked to him. He didn't give any specific reason - just kinda thought they were of lesser quality somehow. However, they have an upper that I've been eyeballing for a while.

How does Stag Arms rank in terms of function, fit, and general accuracy? Anybody dislike them? And if so, why?

Stag is CMT and they make alot of stuff for other companies.....They just put that ugly Logo on the Receiver. Oh and they are top notch! Dont feel like you have spent your money foolishly if you go that route.

ant

easttex
August 31, 2006, 23:36
My buddy is a Marine who's spent some quality time with various AR's in his hands. He was trying to convince me to buy a Rock River tactical entry model last time he was home on leave, but he just couldn't sell me on all the whistles and bells. I'm guessing that since he couldn't give me a straight answer on what was wrong with a Stag, he didn't like the deer head either.

But I am glad to get some good feedback on them. I am looking at the Model 2, but I do think I could assemble one for less than what they have listed on their website.

Thanks,

Jason

RT
August 31, 2006, 23:37
go to DB and look at my Boy's #1 is a stag with an ARMS Stock.Stag is the sister co to Colt., same family from what i am told. and the ugly deer head. bigdeal it is a top notch lower~Richard i have built on 4 stags for the guy's at the PD and S.O

heron163
September 01, 2006, 06:10
Sta is absolutely top notch stuff - they also make a true Left Hand AR - and I like the deer head:tongue:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/heron163/Staghead.jpg

K.O.A.M.
September 01, 2006, 06:33
I have very little desire to build an AR, having 2 Colts already. That being said, I may spring for one of those Tom Sawyer manufactured lowers with the Pirate stuff on them, simply because I think they're hilarious.

Flamehead
September 01, 2006, 07:17
Seriously, I don't get it. WHY would they put the rediculous deer head on an AR lower? Personally, if I were in the market for a lower, I wouldn't buy a stag simply because of the deer head. No doubt they are high quality but..... damn. If I wont buy one because of it, rest assured there are others. Probably many sales lost because of the 'deer head'.

It's pretty funny if you think about it (the deer head).:D

firefuzz
September 01, 2006, 07:40
I'm kinda like you, I don't like the emblem, but I can live with the deer head for the price you have to pay for them. Very high quality, I've got one under a RRA upper with at least one other in the plan.

I've helped friends assemble 3 others on Stag receivers and no problems with any of them, period.

Rob

tvone
September 01, 2006, 09:15
Google CMT. You'll find many companies that use their lowers as the basis for custom builds.

I have several lowers and one upper. Fits everythings I have in stock.

If you think they are not high quality, try to find some in stock. Everyone seems to be for at least another 3 weeks.

SHARPSHOOTER
September 04, 2006, 03:47
I know tons of people who will not use their lowers because of that deers head and the name stag. CMT does make awesome stuff and it is sold under many names. But I would much rather buy a plain jane High Standard lower(CMT manufactured) than one that has that damn head on it. Outside of the internet where things sell differently. I watched one of these high quality lowers with that damn deer head sit for 6 months because no one wants a AR with a deer head the shop owner finally reduced it down to his cost to get it out of the store. I have heard people say " RRA used to be the same way" NOT TRUE! RRA never used a silly ass deer head. A bad logo and name can be a killer and Stag is a bad brand name and a deer head is a silly logo. CMT should have stuck with their old CMT lower which just had CMT inside a little globe. A much nicer looking lower. Oh well there is a customer for everything but I am not buying a deer head lower.

RANT OFF!

Mebsuta
September 04, 2006, 04:56
Stag is respected over on arfcom. Stag is good.

DougW
September 04, 2006, 08:24
I hav 2 rifles that I built on Stag lowers. I usually spend my time looking through the sights and not at the logo when I am shooting. Guess it's just me though.

M2MG
September 04, 2006, 08:34
Everything I have seen or heard about Stag is that their AR parts are all very high quality. I agree the deer head logo is the only thing that keepes me from buying one of their lowers too. Since this is a commonly know reason that Stag doesn't sell more of their receivers, I have to wonder why the company doesn't change it.

If the ONLY reason my company didn't sell more of its product was because of my logo, I would scrap the logo in a New York minute, then tell everyone of my new "new and improved" design.

Who ever owns Stag has a clear cut case of super ego being more important than making a profit. Good thing for the owner that Stag isn't publicly traded, or he would be out on his ear.

Just my .02

M2MG

SHARPSHOOTER
September 04, 2006, 08:52
CMT the owners of the Stag Brand Name, clearly do not really care about selling a lot of lowers under their own brand name mainly because they make almost everyone else's lowers and that is where their money really comes from. However I do not really consider their own branded lower to be that great of a deal considering I can get another lower brand (made by them) that does not have the silly ass logo. Also I can get very nice Mil Spec lowers or $77 a peice instaed of $100 before the dealer transfer fee. Which makes the $100 goto $120 for me and the $77 goto about $97

ftierson
September 04, 2006, 12:04
As most all have said, the Stag lowers are high quality.

However, when it comes to questions of aesthetics, all bets are off...

Personally, I don't much care for the stag head logo.

But, then again, I have a couple of rifles that I assembled on Doublestar/J&T Distributing lowers, which have an even lamer winged dragon logo (which I happen to like).

When all (or most) of the AR lowers are belong to you, I guess that it really doesn't matter much...

Forrest

PowderDriver
September 05, 2006, 11:50
Oklahoma legalized Bambi hunting with the .223 last season, so...I think my deer head will be appropriate this fall.

Seriously, I don't spend alot of time looking at it or thinking about it, and I am clinically diagnosed with OCD. Maybe the meds help? I really don't care. All I know is that I have one on my model1 and it works. Everytime I pull the trigger it goes *BANG!* unless I use wolf ammo, but I'm getting sidetracked now and that is a subject for another thread.

bigant
September 06, 2006, 02:30
This is made by Stag/CMT
WWW.GLOBALTACTICAL.COM (:Denny's Guns
http://globaltactical.com/_img.upload/GTS%20LOWERS%202%20LEFT%20SIDE.jpg

I believe RRA is made by CMT, could be wrong!

chestnut101
September 07, 2006, 14:11
ive had 3 stags a rockriver and an olympic arms. stag makes a great lower
and all i care about is function! they fit great and work 100% anything else is dumb. the best military m16 i ever had was a hydromatic. the best xm177e2 i ever had was a parts gun built in the SF armroom from parts ordered through
3rd shop. so if the stag bothers you please feel free to buy whatever makes you happy. if you just want it to WORK buy a stag /CMT.
just my 2 cents. chestnut101

black sheep
September 11, 2006, 13:58
i have to admit, i wouldn't care if the logo was a saggy set of testicles :eek: :eek: :eek: as long as it functioned properly!!!!

b :shades:

mj2evans
September 11, 2006, 17:18
Well.........I don't own an AR15 but I think I will get a Stag receiver. Looks like I have another build in the future.

Lextech
September 11, 2006, 22:19
I got a Stag lower with a Model1 upper and no problems. Im not fighten for my life with it, just maken noise at the local lines. That uppers actualy pretty good on the 100 yard line, which is as far as my range goes so im happy with my cheapy CAR. I just wish that the stag deer came with a cross behind it like the Jagermister logo!

ce
September 12, 2006, 16:15
Yeah, I want me wunna them Jaegermeister Stags, with a big saggy sack of nuts hangin' down, right in yer face, whuch choo lookin' at, you don't like my Ar 15?

I already got a Stag, and it don't hardly look queer at all.
I got it from Vince, though.

euripides
September 13, 2006, 13:28
I picked up A STAG in the A2 configuration yeaterday, has the removable handle and fixed front sight. The quality is excellent; it is the same lower they make for Rock River. I ran some ammo through it today at my club, no malfs, nice accuracy.

mj2evans
September 18, 2006, 11:10
I plan to get a Stag receiver. After looking that the "snake" on a Bushmaster the Stag looks even better. No offense to anyone but that snake logo is lame. If Stag is same as RRA/CMT then I think its a very good deal.

TaylorWSO
September 18, 2006, 11:30
The sad thing is most people care more for what's on the side of the reciever vs how well they can shoot it.

BTW- I have now started stocking up on Stag products. They are great quality and excellent value.

ftierson
September 18, 2006, 12:38
Originally posted by TaylorWSO
The sad thing is most people care more for what's on the side of the reciever vs how well they can shoot it.

BTW- I have now started stocking up on Stag products. They are great quality and excellent value.

While this is true, keep in mind that many companies have failed for smaller 'problems'...

Since the number of manufacturers of AR lowers is somewhat limited and almost all of the lowers produced today are of quite high quality, there is no reason to put up with something that you don't like on the side of your receiver. Well, perhaps the only reason might be that you can get something that you don't care about that much for quite a bit less money. But, then again, it probably won't be for that much less money anyway.

Get a lower with a logo that you like. It'll work just as well as a lower with a logo that you don't like.

By the way, nothing of what I say here is directed at Stag lowers directly. I, personally, think that the Stag lowers are very well made and it wouldn't bother me too much to have their logo on the side of my rifle.

But I do like some other logos better...

And, as TaylorWSO says, how well you shoot it is a function of shooting it, no matter what the logo...

Forrest

bykerhd
September 18, 2006, 22:57
I grabbed a Stag Arms stripped lower at the last fun show I attended a couple weeks ago. $ 105 out the door was too good to pass up. One of the supposedly brand new Colt Factory SP1/M16 A-1 Upper Assemblies is on order for it from CDNN now. It'll make a nice little A1 sort-of clone when finished. The Stag logo doesn't bother me, but I may have to refinish it to match the color of the upper.

diana-ar15
September 19, 2006, 20:50
CE .. YOU are funny!

by the way .. not a DAMN thing wrong with Stag!