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Sanders
August 28, 2006, 12:53
My brother wants to sell me his Bushmaster Dissipator for $800...It looks like a 18" barrel with full length handguards on it. He's only shot it twice since he bought it brand new last year.

Is it a good deal, or is he trying to hose me?

mdcron
August 28, 2006, 21:48
A dissie is a 16" barrel with full length handguards, and there will be a gas block where the sight base for a 16" would normally be. People like the dissie since it gives you the full sight base.

$800 is about what one goes for new, maybe a little bit more in some areas, assuming it is the model with the collapsing stock.

-mdcron

Sanders
August 28, 2006, 21:55
Thanks. I'll probably pass. If I want a poodle popper, I'll probably build one. Building my own firearms has become addictive.

ratas calientes
September 02, 2006, 11:10
Here is my dissipator. They look funny, but I like the full-size handguards and the full-length sights.
http://chilirat.com/post_images/AR/dissy01.jpg

Built on an old pre-ban PWA receiver. Colt upper, bolt, bolt carrier. Bushmaster parts in the lower. Bushmaster barrel.
http://chilirat.com/post_images/AR/dissy02.jpg

The barrel on this one is a fluted. Can't see much here on the end, but there is some more under the handguards.
http://chilirat.com/post_images/AR/dissy03.jpg

http://chilirat.com/post_images/AR/dissy04.jpg

http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

Ssarge
September 02, 2006, 13:20
I really like the Bushy M4 dissipator barrel, it's like an A2 barrel that's cut off at 16". Light under the handguards, not a full heavy barrel. You still have the good gas block, full length handguards and most importantly full length sight radius.
I built on using an A1 upper, the light weight M4 dissipator barrel, a Diemaco C7A1 stock (M16A1 length using the better M16A2 materials) and an A1 pistol grip. This was my favorite CQB rifle. It shouldered fast, was about the same oal as an M4, had a much better gas system, way better iron sight's with a longer sight radius and sturdier stock with the shorter fixed A1 length stock that was much tougher than a standard A1 stock.
Damn, I wish I had held on to that one!

pr4mnce007
September 06, 2006, 12:39
Here's my DISSIPATOR with a bunch of junk on it:

http://www.hunt101.com/img/353348.jpg

I've since taken everything but the HOGUE forend/grip and REDI-MAG off of it.
I wanted it to be a lightweight, functional, and portable AR15 again.
It's one gun I'd never part with...:shades:

akfanatic
September 07, 2006, 11:25
Ahh! Dont be fooled by Bushmaster; their Dissipator is not really the full size A2 gas system. It is indeed just an M4 with a fake gas block up front. Just take the handguards off and look:eek:
If you want a dissipator I would suggest a build or pick up a DPMS upper; DPMS sells the real thing...

K.O.A.M.
September 07, 2006, 13:08
I'd pass. You can put one together yourself less than that.

pr4mnce007
September 07, 2006, 18:39
Don't be fooled by FAKES, either. :devil: ;)
Bushmaster is THE original Dissipator.
As far as the price goes, buy it. You'll be money ahead with the gun already put together.

The idea was to provide the shorter bbl. with full sight radius.
All the other mfg's. have done is modify the idea somewhat.
Get the 'Dissy' and be happy! :biggrin:

ratas calientes
September 07, 2006, 23:00
Originally posted by akfanatic
Ahh! Dont be fooled by Bushmaster; their Dissipator is not really the full size A2 gas system. It is indeed just an M4 with a fake gas block up front. Just take the handguards off and look:eek:
If you want a dissipator I would suggest a build or pick up a DPMS upper; DPMS sells the real thing... Does one really want the full size A2 gas system on a 16" barrel? My dissy upper actually started as a complete Colt upper that I picked up at a gun show. Some had already cut the barrel down to 16". When tested, it short stroked. I then read up on the dissipators, and learned that the Bushy dissy had the 16" gas system hidden under the handguards. I also saw other vendors that sold barrels with the full-length gas system on 16" barrels, but I didn't know what to make of them. I suspect that they had larger gas ports? I can't say for sure. I decided to go with a Bushy barrel, fluted, that I installed on the Colt upper. And my dissy, shown in the photos, was born. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif

OREGON FAL'ER
September 11, 2006, 00:03
Originally posted by ratas calientes
Does one really want the full size A2 gas system on a 16" barrel? My dissy upper actually started as a complete Colt upper that I picked up at a gun show. Some had already cut the barrel down to 16". When tested, it short stroked. I then read up on the dissipators, and learned that the Bushy dissy had the 16" gas system hidden under the handguards. I also saw other vendors that sold barrels with the full-length gas system on 16" barrels, but I didn't know what to make of them. I suspect that they had larger gas ports? I can't say for sure. I decided to go with a Bushy barrel, fluted, that I installed on the Colt upper. And my dissy, shown in the photos, was born. http://chilirat.com/emoticons/chilirat.gif
Amen brother its the full length sight radius we want not the full gas system.

OREGON FAL'ER
September 11, 2006, 00:48
And yes you could put one together for around $600 ish on the the cheap. you could do it with a "model 1 sales" complete kit minus the lower rec. then get yourself a stripped lower from any of a host of different companies.

TheOtherChris
September 11, 2006, 09:52
Originally posted by pr4mnce007
Don't be fooled by FAKES, either. :devil: ;)
Bushmaster is THE original Dissipator.
As far as the price goes, buy it. You'll be money ahead with the gun already put together.

The idea was to provide the shorter bbl. with full sight radius.
All the other mfg's. have done is modify the idea somewhat.
Get the 'Dissy' and be happy! :biggrin:

If you're talking about the shorty gas system under the handguard, they're the original.

If you're talking about a 16" barrel with full length handguards, they most definitely weren't the first.

I built several of them twenty years ago.
This one has an early M16 barrel so I could mount an Elbit Falcon sight. A "Dissy" gas block would have been in the way.

Of all the ones I built, I only had one that wouldn't cycle and it was made from a used mil-surp barrel that had seen a lot of use. I did open the gas port a little on some of them for reliability.

pr4mnce007
September 11, 2006, 12:09
That's what I meant --- the gas system.

Cool looking rifle you have there.