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mkinla
January 12, 2006, 00:28
I appologize if it's a stupid question, but I grew up on a farm in Croatia and live in Los Angeles and didn't know if I could possibly get a few drums.

Thanks,

Mark

Sig220
January 12, 2006, 00:44
Most likely you would have to purchase suitable drums and then fill them with a smaller fuel container. After all, a drum of fuel weighs a pretty good bit and would be hard to move when full.
There are some dangers to storing fuel in a drum such as expansion of the fuel if sealed and condensation if left open. I don't have all the information to tell you what the safest and most practical way is. There also maybe some city/state laws pertaining to storage of fuel as well.....afterall a house fire with a garage full of drums of gas would be a bad thing.

mkinla
January 12, 2006, 00:49
I'm gonna look into it tomorrow and call a few petrol companies and see what I find out.

I'll report back.;)

ONG
January 12, 2006, 07:01
We are in the fuel business and we do it all the time. Can you store the drums inside or will they be outside?

xtremerange
January 12, 2006, 08:54
Piggybacking on the inside or outside storage question...can you store diesel outside in "plastic" drums? Is there a type of "plastic" to get and others to avoid?

ONG
January 12, 2006, 10:22
Originally posted by xtremerange
Piggybacking on the inside or outside storage question...can you store diesel outside in "plastic" drums? Is there a type of "plastic" to get and others to avoid?

I can't answer your question very well. Almost all of our customers use steel drums. They lay them on their side and put spigots in the small hole we fill them using the big hole. These are mostly Amish customers that need a small amount of gasoline, diesel fuel or kerosene for their home use.

The few plastic drums that I have personally filled seemed to work ok other than the little bit of gasoline that was in them had a sour smell.

derek huffman, azexarms
January 12, 2006, 11:26
When Rita was about to hit, we bought 110 gallons of gas and stored it here at the shop.

We put two drums on a pallet, put them in a friends pickup, filled them up at the local "stop and rob" and used a forklift to put them in the corner of the shop.

Now this ended up being a disaster, because gas did not go to 4 dollars a gallon as was predicted.

The drums we used were formerly used for Isopropyl alcohol, and therefore had no bad residue or other agents which would react with gasoline.

We used up all the gas within 6 weeks filling both Troopers so no Sta-Bil was required.

D.
AZEX

762 shooter
January 12, 2006, 14:18
This might help- http://stores.ebay.com/The-Barrel-Company

ER
January 12, 2006, 14:27
I buy racing fuel by the drum. The company I get it from puts 54 gal in a 55gal drum(steel), leaving room for expansion. I dunno if that`s needed, but that`s what they do. I go thru 3 or 4 drums a summer, and the biggest part of the last one usually sits from mid October to early April without being used. When we head back to the track again in the spring, I stir the fuel some (again, I dunno if it makes any difference, but I do it anyway) with a wooden broomstick. I`ve never had any fuel related problems, except for the large storage tank at the track had water in it one time.

YMMV........

Oh yeah, my diesel dually sits around in the yard most if the time, and I prolly don`t buy fuel for it but once every 4 months or so. Even then, it`s usually only 10 gals or so. Never had a fuel related problem with it either and I don`t run any kind of fuel treatment.

warbird
January 12, 2006, 22:00
If you're looking at long-term storage, you'll need to add some Stabil or other fuel stabilizer to keep it from going bad on you. Also, if you can get it, Avgas doesn't have all the additives that they put in auto fuel and will go a lot longer before turning sour. Some of our a/c go a couple of years between run-ups and we never worry about the fuel, just turn on the valve and crank it up.

ftierson
January 13, 2006, 02:50
A word to the wise...

Don't buy a lot of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the same time...

Forrest

(Great. That comment should get me on another list somewhere...:) )

ER
January 13, 2006, 09:51
Don't buy a lot of ammonium nitrate fertilizer at the same time

ftierson......I thought the same thing when I read the original post, especially when he said he was from Croatia and lives in LA :rofl:

Kinda funny how people read things into innocent questions nowadays.....

(btw......any fertilizer containing at least 30% nitrogen will do, ......uncle sugar taught me that at Ft Belvoir, LOL.)

Bwana John
January 13, 2006, 12:15
I buy gasoline out of drums all the time in Baja.

It is a normal thing at the Pemex station to see a pick-up and trailer full of 55 gal drums being filled up to be taken to a fish camp.

Fn/form
January 13, 2006, 14:52
The diesel shops I know of have anything from 55gal to 500gal tanks on stilts. Local fuel supply companies send trucks out to refill the tanks.

Mount a barrel and then have it filled.

-josh

owlcreekok
January 13, 2006, 14:52
I thought the same thing when I read the original post, especially when he said he was from Croatia and lives in LA

Me too. I ain't :rofl: either.

:|

CAG100
January 23, 2006, 20:20
If you live in Los Angeles you better check your local (city, county, and state) laws before you store fuel within the city limits...

The Kali's, and especially the LA Kali's, are super environmental 'aware' and you need permits for everything...

Powderfinger
January 26, 2006, 11:51
So edjumacate me on the difference of oxygenated and non-oxygenated gas. The non-oxy. variety is supposed to last 10-12 times longer when treated than treated oxygenated gas. I know Kalifornia has oxy. gas. What other states on the west coast have it.

G21A
January 26, 2006, 12:10
Originally posted by derek huffman, azexarms
When Rita was about to hit, we bought 110 gallons of gas and stored it here at the shop.

We put two drums on a pallet, put them in a friends pickup, filled them up at the local "stop and rob" and used a forklift to put them in the corner of the shop.

Now this ended up being a disaster, because gas did not go to 4 dollars a gallon as was predicted.



Derek, It sure did hit $4 a gallon here in Atlanta. You coulda made a couple hundred bucks on those here. :beer:

mosbysmen
January 31, 2006, 18:26
if you do store it in a metal drum , think about running a ground wire to each drum .
also if they catch fire, your home owners insurance is not going to be happy , make sure you store them away from your house .