Help me find a good scope for this baby...please....

[medbill]

Hey guys,

I want to go with one of the following, ACOG, Leupold Mk3, Aimpoint or EOTECH scope for my new rifle. Having never even fired a FAL what would work out of this short barreled .308 and would any of the above give me some cheek weld problems? I don't even have it in hand yet but it never hurts to start asking early.

I like the idea of a calibrated reticle.


Thanks much,

Billy

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[firefuzz]

Nice looking rifle, I really like the paint job.

I had good results with the Eotech but my next one is going to be the ACOG.
Shot one on a buddy's gun and loved it.

Probably use another Eotech on my AR.


Rob

[Da Nerd]

I'll answer your question as soon as I wipe the 'drool' off my keyboard...;)
With the weaver base I would think you could find a mount with the right height riser to fit you as you like.
Any are good scopes..find the one that YOU like most.

[BlackCat]

I'd say, due to the K-grip and the overall length, an Eotech.
See, THEN you've justified getting a full length FAL for the ACOG or IOR.
:beer:

[MichonRAFW]

The eotech sits up kinda high on a fal, especially using a para stock. The aimpoint sits the lowest and offers the best cheek weld for dot sights. Especially with aimpoints factory ring. Never tried an acog on the fal so I couldn't comment on the cheek weld with it.

For what it's worth, for my fal (dsa light weight tac carbine, pretty much what you have but without para config) I moved from leupy vx-II 2-7x to an eotech to an aimpoint. Now that I have the aimpoint, I can't see going back.

Ryan

[ironman0311]

Check out The Valdada CQB's:


http://www.dsarms.com/catalog-list.cfm?Category=12&Subcat=IOR%2FValdada%20Tactical%20Rifle%20Scopes&storeid=1

[ironman0311]

Or, maybe a Meopta 1x4 w/K-Dot.

I have one with a #1 German and it works VERY well.

http://www.meopta.com/index.php?id=76&lang=en#



K-Dot:

[ironman0311]

This also comes in a 3000 series (non Ilum) 1x5 x20 w/German#1

[ironman0311]

IOR CQB reticle:

[Mad Dog 7.62]

Do you want speed, or magnication? How important is compactness and weight? How much do you want to spend?

Eotech or Aimpoint for close work. Acog is a nice choice if you want moderate magnification for medium range work. Acogs are fairly tough and compact. If you want more than 4x then it really depends on how much you can spend. That is a very nice rifle, and if you're gonna scope it, it would be a shame not to do it right and put a good optic on it.
MD

[medbill]

I am going to go with the ACOG for this rifle as it does deserve good optics for sure. Close to medium range is what it will be used for. Now I just need to find out who has the best prices for one of these. So far the best I've seen is $950 and that's without a mount. Man I gotta get busy selling stuff!

Any of you guys like or collect Stevens 416 US Property Marked 22's? :biggrin: They will be the first on the auction block along with the smoothbore flintlock musket this rifle will be replacing for home security. :wink:

Thanks for the help.

Billy

[ironman0311]

My buddy has both the ACOG and the IOR CQB.

We have shot them both of an AR and a FAL.

We both like the IOR better. (For your intended task)

You ought to try one before taking the plunge.

Also, the IOR is NOT caliber specific so you could change if from gun to gun if needed or desired. (Not mention much cheaper in price)

Just my $.02

[the gman]

EO Tech is my vote. You ain't never shot a FAL??:uhoh: I'm in the minority here but I would NEVER buy an optic that requires a tight cheek weld with a PARA, my cheek gets knocked to crap with the iron sights, I gotta get my cheek off that stock or me & PARAs are going our seperate ways...

BTW, nice deal on the rifle, I got one from FS about this time last year too, love mine to death & it has an EO Tech on it, good sight on a great gun.:love: I can easy hit 400 yd gongs with it, both eyes open, great optic. Sure, it ain't as precise as other items mentioned; question is, what do you intend to use it for??

Hunting, home protection, comps, what?? You sure as shit better not be shooting at anyone at a distance further away than they can cause you immediate harm or you might be in a whole world of hurt, legally.

Guess only you know whatcha gonna do, let that be your guide....:biggrin:

[ironman0311]

Originally posted by the gman
EO Tech is my vote. You ain't never shot a FAL??:uhoh: I'm in the minority here but I would NEVER buy an optic that requires a tight cheek weld with a PARA, my cheek gets knocked to crap with the iron sights, I gotta get my cheek off that stock or me & PARAs are going our seperate ways...

BTW, nice deal on the rifle, I got one from FS about this time last year too, love mine to death & it has an EO Tech on it, good sight on a great gun.:love: I can easy hit 400 yd gongs with it, both eyes open, great optic. Sure, it ain't as precise as other items mentioned; question is, what do you intend to use it for??

Hunting, home protection, comps, what?? You sure as shit better not be shooting at anyone at a distance further away than they can cause you immediate harm or you might be in a whole world of hurt, legally.

Guess only you know whatcha gonna do, let that be your guide....:biggrin:



ACE LTD has foam rubber tubing that fits over the top tube.

I also found some thin (1/8") adhesive backed rubber padding (6x6" sheets, texture of moleskin) that I trimmed and installed on my Para 14.5" shorty. (used excess as a "brass kiss" buffer)

I Shoot it with iron sights with no problems. (even off the bench)

Might be a solution to your problem.

[ironman0311]

PS:


Some guys wrap the top tube w/parachute cord as well.

I have not shot one with that setup but hear it works well.

I THINK someone posted a PIC of one once ?

[medbill]

Great ideas guys and keep em coming! I know about the folding stock slap. Been there done that. I would like to get into some of that three gun competition as well as shooting any varmints that might be running around the ranch after the sheep. Also nice to have around the house when your in the middle of no where and help is at least 30-45 minutes away.

So many scopes, I gotta get to a store that has some of these so I can peek through em. You guys should start having FAL ONLY shoots around the country so guys like me can get in on the fun. lol

Seriously though I just had to have this rifle, it is just way too cool and has everything I would do to my dream para.

Ok so whats my next one gonna be? lol

Thanks guys, all comments greatly appreciated. I know about engaging threats etc and the legal issues. Nice to have those extra aiming points though when a yote goes running across the field. :-)

I am very into precision shooting though so a fine reticle might be best for me, that IOR reticle is growing on me. If the rifle shoots as good as it looks I might just have to go for one of them. In the meantime I have traditional scopes that I can slap on and test ammo.

Boy I can't wait! Christmas came early this year!

Billy:biggrin:

[bigant]

Just be carefull with the ACOG! Since the eye relief is not that great and we wouldnt want you to get smacked in the eye....I would also suggest the Trijicon Accupoint 1-4 and Leupolds 1-5 they are used a lot by the 3 gunners and some say that they are just a little slower than when they use their Eotechs or Aimpoints...but they also offer you the higher range of Magnification for you to use the range of your weapon.

Also I would be more than happy to give you a price qoute on any item you decide to go with.

ANt

[Cruzado]

The specs on that IOR look about right...almost 4 inches of eye relief, and 30+ feet field-of-view at 100 yards. This is the first time I've ever looked closely at one. That's a good combination of specs in the never-ending battle between eye relief and FOV (usually get more of one at the expense of the other).

It's almost $600.00...does anybody sell them for less?

v/r, Cruzado

[tac-40]

I had a Bushnell Holosight (Eotech 512) on my 16" carbine with the DSA X furniture on it. Loved it till I broke the sight. While waiting for return from the factory, I installed a Trijicon Reflex in it. The Holosight is now on my AR shorty.

I love the heck out of the Trijicon. Nice and low, and NO BATTERIES. See if you can check one of them out.

[Fn/form]

The ACOG is a proven, rugged, batteryless wonder. If it works for you, that'd be my first choice.

I'd go with the Aimpoint over the EOTech. Aimpoint has less washout in bright sunlight. EOTech at max bright gets faint in bright sunlight.

I've had my eye on the IOR stuff for a while. I dunno what the battery life is... but I'd sure like to try one...


-josh

[SteveW]

The IOR sure looks nice, but like you say, it's pretty spendy.. Maybe Bigant could magic up a group buy !

Ironman0311 (or anyone) how is the CQB reticle on the IOR used ? What are all those little circles for under the crosshair ? It's gotta be for something, coz nothing appears in a reticle for no reason ! :biggrin:

S.

[dlmpsy]

My vote is for the Leupold 1.5-5X20 Mark IV MR/T 30mm with illuminated SPR reticle mounted on a ARMS #35QD Dual Throw lever base with ARMS #35 Ultra Low 30mm track mounted scope rings. Works great on my Para.:skull:

[Lostinthewoods]

I'm skeptical of the IOR's claimed eye relief. I had an M1 on my STG and the eye relief was almost non existant. The scope banged my shooting glasses with every shot. The optical clarity was outstanding though and they are built to last.

[medbill]

I was told by a well respected friend in the military to stay away from Russian glass, period.