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MrL1A1
September 04, 2005, 23:43
Good info :)



Our abundant domestic water supply is generally of little concern. However, situations might occur where the supply of safe water is interrupted. Interruptions could be for only short periods of time or natural disasters such as earthquakes could occur which would result in an inadequate or contaminated water supply for days. An emergency water supply is recommended in every household to meet these situations.

Amount of Water for Storage
Only short-term supply of water can be stored in most homes. Recommendations for the amount of water to be stored vary from one-half gallon to 1 gallon per day, per person, for food preparation and drinking purposes only. The Department of Defense, Office of Civil Defense, states that a quart of water or other fluid a day will sustain life, but humans would be much more comfortable, especially in warm weather, with an allowance of a gallon per day. An additional ½ to 1 gallon per day is recommended for washing, tooth brushing, and dish washing.

The amount of water for consumption might be reduced somewhat, depending on the total juices, soups, other drinks, and high moisture foods which are available. Other sources of water available in emergency situations are the water heater, water softener containers, and the water storage area of the toilet.

Containers for Water Storage
Many types of containers are available for water storage. The most commonly used containers are glass, plastic, and metal.

Glass: Glass provides a fairly effective container for storage but is easily broken and heavier than plastic. Glass in non-permeable to vapors and gases; however, water in glass containers should not be stored near gasoline, kerosene, pesticides, or similar substances.

Plastic: Plastic jugs are frequently used for water storage. These containers are light weight and fairly sturdy. There are many types of plastic containers manufactured. Generally polyethylene type plastics are safe for storing water. Some, however, are not recommended for food storage because harmful chemicals could leach into the food. Most plastics used in waterbeds are not approved food storage plastics. Plastic containers which have previously been used for food storage or which are being advertised as food storage products will be safe. Plastic jugs with secure lids, which have contained milk or other edible substances are safe for water storage, however, it is essential that the milk bottles be very thoroughly washed to remove the fat traces. Some light-weight gallon containers might split at the seams and leak. Chlorine bleach bottles may be a food approved plastic, but contain an anti-static agent which prevents accumulation of dust during storage and are thus not recommended. Since plastic is permeable to certain vapors, water stored in plastic should not be near gasoline, kerosene, pesticides, or similar substances. It is advisable to store plastic water containers away from direct sunlight.

Metal: Some metals, such as stainless steel, can successfully be used for water storage. A metal water storage container should be resistant to rust. A metallic taste can be picked up by the stored water in some types of metal containers. Water stored in metal containers should not be treated, prior to storage, with chlorine since the chlorine compound is corrosive to most metals.

Treatment for Stored Water
Water which is to be stored for long periods of time should be sanitized or disinfected. Be sure to use the best quality water possible for storage. Water from a system with a state division of health "approved" rating is recommended. Likewise, the containers should be clean.

Heat Treatment: One effective way to store water is in clean canning jars. Fill clean fruit jars with water, leaving 1 inch of head space at the to of the jars. Place unused, clean lids and screw bank and process the water in a boiling water bath as fruit is processed. Quart jars should be processed 20 minutes, 2 quart jars for 25 minutes.

Chlorine Treatment: Liquid chlorine bleach can be used to disinfect water for long-term storage. One gallon can be treated by the addition of ¼ teaspoon of liquid chlorine bleach containing 4 to 6 percent sodium hypochlorite. (Most bleaches contain 5.25 percent.) This is equivalent to 16 drops of liquid chlorine bleach.

Closure of water containers should be secure. Stored water should be checked occasionally. If any changes, such as cloudiness or an odor are noted, replace the water and treat as before.

Emergency Disinfection of Water
Some emergency situations could occur where the only water which is available is contaminated by disease-causing organisms. In this case, the same procedures can be used as for treatment of stored water as follows:

Heat Treatment: Boiling is the most preferred method. This heat treatment requires water to be boiled in a vigorous rolling boil for 5 minutes. Taste may be improved by pouring the boiled water back and fourth from one clean container to another several times to incorporate air.

Chemical Treatment: Chemical treatment is less desirable than heat treatment because the effectiveness is dependent on several variables such as: (1) the amount of organic matter in the water, (3) water temperature, and (4) the length of time after the chemical is added until it is used.

Chlorine Treatment: Clear water can be treated with ¼ teaspoon (16 drops) of liquid chlorine bleach per gallon. Mix the water and allow it to stand for 30 minutes before using. If water is cloudy to the appearance, chemical treatment is not recommended. A slight chlorine odor should be detectable in the water. If not, repeat the treatment and let stand an additional 15 minutes before using. Use fresh bleach.

Water Purification Tablets: Different types of tablets are available for water purification purposes. Be sure to follow the manufacturer's directions for treatment and allow sufficient time for the chemical to work before using. Check the label for expiration date, since the tablets can become ineffective with time. Most tablets have a storage life of approximately 2–5 years unopened.

Commercial Water Treatment Units: Many extravagant claims are made by some water filter manufacturers concerning their ability to purify water. According to the Utah State Division of Health, concerning the effectiveness of their use, the following is quoted:

"In the emergency situation, neither these nor any other presently known home-use device can be relied upon to produce safe drinking water from any or all contaminated waters. A home-use device which may reduce one aspect of water contamination may have to effect on a different type of hazard in the same water."

Contamination by Radioactivity and Chemicals
No effective way for decontamination of water which contains radioactive or chemical fallout is available for home use. This decontamination should be supervised by the local or state health officers.



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mosbysmen
September 05, 2005, 09:56
a good portable water filter in a padded case is worth its weight in gold .
i used the pur hiker for 5 days in wyoming worked great.

cabofdoom
September 05, 2005, 10:35
Originally posted by mosbysmen
a good portable water filter in a padded case is worth its weight in gold .
i used the pur hiker for 5 days in wyoming worked great.

I Concure. Used a Sweetwater for ten days in the BWCA and it worked great.

jacketch
September 05, 2005, 13:03
I have a Katadyn Pocket filter for bug in. It was expensive but will last for 20k gallons of water with litle maintenance. The construction is bulletproof breakage should not be a problem.

My BOB has a MSR Miniworks filter that is fairly inexpensive, lightweight and it fits the top of lexan water bottles making pumping easy. A spare filter and a repair kit assure long life for the unit.

My GHB in my vehicle has a water bottle filter that is good for up to 20 gallons of water (if the water is reasonably clear.) It is lightweight, inexpensive and the charcoal filter will remove microbes, dirt and some chemicals. A bottle of water is also in the get-home-bag for a quick drink.

I also have water purification tablets (iodine) in each kit as a back-up.

Treborer
September 06, 2005, 20:58
http://www.copeusa.org/

Abominog
September 07, 2005, 07:59
The "latest discovery" for purification is extremely simple.

Water in clear plastic bottles left in direct sunlight will purify as a result of exposure to sunlight in 12 hours or less.

Bwana John
September 07, 2005, 11:01
For you guys relying on portable water filter pumps that use 0.2 micron filtration (Waterworks, Miniworks, Sweetwater ect), viruses are much smaller and need additional chlorine or iodine treatment.

Backpacking filters are great for giardia but they are not effective against cholera or thyphoid.

Iodine is preferable for short term use over chlorine because iodine works better in cold water than chlorine and is not affected as much by water with high or low pH.

Long term use of iodine tablets is not recommended.

Treborer
September 07, 2005, 20:15
http://www.waterandhealth.org/drinkingwater/water_storage.php3

Farmer from Hell
September 12, 2005, 09:29
See my post here (http://www.falfiles.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148585) .

It would simplify things considerably.

I go with bottled water right now as it should last a long time since its basically distilled and sealed during packageing/bottling.

FfH

MrL1A1
August 13, 2006, 21:48
some more water info............

http://www.lifesafety.com/shop/product_info.php/products_id/364?osCsid=79880f7c2


Water Storage & Information


Purchase NEW approved drinking water barrels for storage and future drinking water use.

Have on hand smaller approved drinking water containers for portability,rationing,sharing and refilling larger barrels.

Have on hand prepackaged purified water for expediate use, rationing, convenience, portability and sharing.

Store water in at least two locations around your home, never on top shelves.

Store water in your vehicles (smaller containers or prepackaged).

Purchase a hand operated water filter/purifier this could prove to be very valuable life saver.
How much water should I store?
In an emergency, an ample water supply is a priority. Needs will differ, depending upon age, physical condition, activity, diet and climate, but most people need to drink at least two quarts, which is equal to eight cups, of water each day. We recommend at one-gallon per person per day. Hot weather conditions can double the amount needed, and children, nursing women and those ill also will need more. In addition to drinking water, supplies for food preparation and hygiene are needed. If you have room to store plan on a one month or longer supply of water and food.

Never ration drinking water, even when supplies run low. Drink the amount you need today and try to find more for tomorrow. You can, however, minimize the amount of water your body needs by reducing activity and staying cool.

What containers should I use?
You should only store water in NEW food-grade plastic containers with tight-fitting screw-on caps. New containers should be labeled for storage of food or beverages,(DOT) or (UN)rating. as those not labeled for food or beverage storage could release harmful chemicals into the water.

How should I prepare the containers?
Wash the containers and lids thoroughly with hot tap water and dish detergent. Rinse thoroughly with hot tap water.

What water should I use?
In most cases, your drinking and cooking water should be suitable to store for emergency purposes. The water should be potable (bacteria and pathogen free).

Public water supply A public water supply is defined as one that provides piped water for human consumption to at least 15 service connections or regularly serves at least 25 individuals. Water from a public water supply is regulated by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) HHS (Human service systems) require all public water suppliers to regularly test for bacteria and deliver water meeting EPA drinking water standards. While you may expect water from a public water supply in the united states to be potable, inadequate cleaning of the container used to collect and store the water could result in bacterial contamination.

Private water supply Private water supplies are not subject to any regulation. Testing is the only way to determine if water from a private water supply is potable. The test should be done by an HHS-approved laboratory. It is generally recommended private water supplies be tested for bacterial safety at least once a year. Again, inadequate cleaning and disinfection of the container used to collect and store the water could result in bacterial contamination.

Vended water supply Water vending machines are systems where customers fill their own containers with treated water. Vended water is regulated by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA). Since FDA requires water for vending machines come from an approved public water supply, the assumption is that the water meets EPA drinking water standards. The vending machine normally provides treatment above that done by the municipality. Inadequate cleaning and disinfection of the water vending machine or the container used to collect and store the water could result in bacterial contamination.

How should I treat the water for storage?
To treat water for storage (good for at least one year) do not retreat, use liquid household chlorine bleach that contains 5.25 percent sodium hypochlorite. Do not use bleach with soaps or scents or colors added. Add the bleach according to the following table, using a clean, uncontaminated medicine dropper. (See our water preserver concentrate to safety store water for 5 years without rotation).

16-drops per gallon of water.

When treating larger quantities of water, use the following table to convert drops to standard measuring units.

8 drops = 1/8 teaspoon 16 drops = 1/4 teaspoon 32 drops = 1/2 teaspoon 64 drops = 1 teaspoon 192 drops = 1 Tablespoon 384 drops = 1/8 cup which is equal to 2 Tablespoons.

Stir the water and allow it to stand for 30 minutes. You should be able to smell chlorine after the 30-minute waiting period. If you cannot, add another dose and let the water stand another 15 minutes. Cap containers and label each, describing the contents and preparation date.

Where should I store the water and for how long?
For shelf-storage of water, store containers in a cool, dry place away from direct sunlight. Because most plastic beverage containers degrade over time, store them away from heat and light to prevent leakage. Store water in plastic containers away from gasoline, kerosene, pesticides or similar substances because vapors from these products can penetrate plastic. Remember, water weighs over 8 pounds per gallon, so make sure the shelf or storage area is strong enough to support the weight. For best quality, replace stored water (using this method) every six months. improve the taste of water stored for a long time, pour it back and forth between two clean containers several times to aerate it. Water can also be stored in a freezer. If you lose electricity, the frozen water provides the added benefit of keeping foods frozen until power is restored. Leave 2 to 3 inches of air space in the top of containers before freezing to prevent the container from bursting as water expands during freezing.

How do I keep water in opened containers safe?
Once opened, use good sanitary measures to keep the water safe and to control exposure to bacteria. To reduce the chance of water contamination, open only the containers you will use immediately. If electricity is available, store opened containers in a refrigerator at or below 40 degrees Fahrenheit. If refrigeration is not available and containers are stored at room temperature, avoid introducing bacterial contamination into the water. Use water in opened containers within one or two days Again, we recommend storing a minimum of one gallon (preferably two gallons) of water per person per day.

We do not recommend storing water in glass containers, used milk or thin water containers sold at most supermarkets. They become brittle with time. Also never-ever use any previously used plastic containers or barrels, even ones used for syrups and concentrates. These containers absorb and retain the residual of anything put into them regardless of how much prior cleaning you give them, thus contaminating your water reserve (and causing it to taste terrible). Beware of savvy people selling used containers as being safe. Do not use pool, spa or water bed water for drinking; the acids, algaecides and other chemicals can be harmful or deadly if ingested.

Our new industrial strength water containers are made for years of faithful service. Unlike most store bought containers, each of these has passed the U.N. & Department of Transportation rigid burst & handling test as well as being FDA approved as a food & water storage container. These containers can also be stored indoors or out, and are made to withstand both hot & cold and freezing temperatures. Remember, use only new approved containers when storing your valuable water reserves.

After a major earthquake or other disaster, water can become scarce and questionable to drink. In such a crisis consider all water supply unsafe to drink unless properly treated.

308 fan
August 14, 2006, 00:18
Hello, first post here. I came here to learn about FALs but couldn't resist this preparedness forum.

In addition to all of the great (and VERY important) info already listed, I would like to add that water acquisition (especially in a long term “grid down” scenario) will be of utmost importance.

Lehman’s galvanized well bucket (http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=97&itemType=PRODUCT&iProductID=97) is a great item to have in your preparedness stash. It drops down into any existing well casing (that is 4” min.) and holds almost two gallons.

I plan to use this in conjunction with a Katadyn Gravidyn (http://beprepared.com/product.asp?pn=WP%20F820&name=Katadyn%C2%AE%20Gravidyn%20TRK) filter (my well water not the best, and needs filtered).

H2O storage in barrels is a MUST, but there is an almost unlimited supply of H2O in your well (or your friend’s/neighbor’s).