Bourbon Recommendations

[John Randolph]

If there are any hardcore bourbon fans out there I was looking for something new and maybe not that outrageously priced.

I typically drink Maker's or Woodford Reserve, have enjoyed the other small batch (Bookers, Bakers and Basil Hayden) but am looking more for something that doesn't ruin the bank account.

I tend to enjoy the mellower, sweeter varieties. Is Maker's Mark really the best compromise out there?

[Sparkey762]

My favorite is Bulleit Frontier Whiskey. Its pretty smooth, kinda sweet, and not aged in charcoal barrels like some of the others are. I usually chase it with lemonade.

[derek huffman, azexarms]

Beam. Often...
Knob Creek...Straight, Ice cold and on special occasions.

Yeah, I'm no bourbon snob. LOL

D.
AZEX

[Dean P]

In my younger days, we sold scrap iron for a week to pay for a Xmas party on a construction job site on Preston Rd. Where we had 2 half gallons of every bourbon we could find in Dallas, we tried them all. The winner hands down was Wild Turkey, the party lasted for 8 hours. I had to call someone to drive me home, drunk for 3 days.

[vmtz]

George Dickle, much better then Maker's Mark or Beam. JD is ok. I will drink bourbon, but prefer single malt scotch.

Vince

[Temp]

Originally posted by vmtz
George Dickle, much better then Maker's Mark or Beam. JD is ok. I will drink bourbon, but prefer single malt scotch.

Vince

JD isn't bourbon. Bourbon is only made in Kentucky.

[Dean P]

Seagram's VO...blended Canadian whiskey..

mixed with Vernor's ginger ale.....

nector of the Gods.......

The queston was about Kentucky bourbon, Maker's Mark is a true sour mash Kentucky bourbon .

[fastfreddy]

I prefer Wild Turkey. I occasionally drink Rebel Yell because I like the name.

Scotch is for people who wear skirts.

[vmtz]

Originally posted by fastfreddy
I prefer Wild Turkey. I occasionally drink Rebel Yell because I like the name.

Scotch is for people who wear skirts.

I know a few Scots who would be happy to stuff you in the empty bottle for that comment. And they are women. Ask the Gman or English Mike about Scots.

Vince

[Temp]

Hell, man,.... evahbuddy know they's only one bourbon for a FAL'er to sip own!

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/184026/knobcreek.jpg

[Dean P]

JD isn't bourbon. Bourbon is only made in Kentucky.

A mere technicality, just filltered through charcoal. Gives it a much better taste

[vmtz]

http://www.nmia.com/~daykin/maker.JPG

http://www.nmia.com/~daykin/scotch.JPG

Vince

[Temp]

Originally posted by Dean P


A mere technicality, just filltered through charcoal. Gives it a much better taste

Whiskey from Tennessee is quite a bit more than a "technicality".

It's an abomination! It's like a mule in the Kentucky Derby.

[Temp]

Originally posted by vmtz


http://www.nmia.com/~daykin/scotch.JPG



Ardbeg?!,..... da **** kinda name is that for liquor?!!

As if I'm gonna go strollin' up ta Barbara down to the Jefferson Davis Lounge and say,..

"Hey there, good looking,.... pour me up a double shot of "Ardbeg".

[fastfreddy]

Originally posted by vmtz


I know a few Scots who would be happy to stuff you in the empty bottle for that comment. And they are women. Ask the Gman or English Mike about Scots.

Vince

Maybe one day I'll ask 'em over a bourbon. Maybe we'll discuss my scottish ancestory. Go straighten your skirt and have another sip of single malt.

[vmtz]

Originally posted by Temp


Ardbeg?!,..... da **** kinda name is that for liquor?!!

As if I'm gonna go strollin' up ta Barbara down to the Jefferson Davis Lounge and say,..

"Hey there, good looking,.... pour me up a double shot of "Ardbeg".

It is good single malt scotch.

Vince

[89Max]

Yep - I'm with Dean P. I've had a lot of different bourbons & whiskeys (all price ranges), but I always end up with Wild Turkey 101 or Old Grandad 114.

Ya gotta have more than 100 proof to have a good flavor:biggrin:

[Dean P]

Whiskey from Tennessee is quite a bit more than a "technicality".

It's an abomination! It's like a mule in the Kentucky Derby.


We have learned to enjoy good whiskey here in Texas, JD is one of them. To borrow a saying, corn, barley & rye is are my favorite grains

[ANON]

Make mine Evan Williams Single Barrel Straight KY Bourbon! :whiskey:

"Seagram's VO...blended Canadian whiskey.."

Two problems...blended AND canadian. Third problem...NOT bourbon.

These days I mostly stick to wheat ale brewed in the USA.

[fastfreddy]

I'm curious about why this thread is in "The Great Outdoors".

[owlcreekok]

Yeh Fred, me too. I is laffin so hard. Sheeeeeeit! Well, I finally found a small patch of agreement with Vince. While he ain't no grocer, he knows his drink. Aye laddie, a sniff o the malt, shore.

No, JD ain't bourbon. If ya think it is yer fulla shttt up to the bung!

Seagram's VO...blended Canadian whiskey..

Go stand in the corner whilst adults have a conversation!

:tongue:

[derek huffman, azexarms]

I forgot about Evan Williams.

Fine Stuff, good price, good finish.

D.
AZEX

[owlcreekok]

Derek, my palate doth not agree with you'rn. Evan Williams jes' don' set with me. :whiskey:

Hey temp! Me thinks Vince is makin a statement more with the volumes than the flagons. I call BS. What say ye companyero?

Hell, jes well farge this one up, it's in the wrong dang forum anyhow. Sides, my back is killin' me and I been in the Rx jar!

Sue me! :rofl:

[JohninVT]

Knob Creek is my bourbon of choice. If I can't find it, I'll drink Jim Beam. As for Scotch, try Oban. Good stuff.

[vmtz]

Originally posted by Teleplayer
Geez Louise...I mention my whiskey of choice (though Wild Turkey is great) and encounter more remonstrance than if I'd talked politics...

Maybe I should just open a Hieniken....

:rolleyes:

Skunk beer only drank by the French. It also does not go well with toast n the morning.

owlcreekok,



http://www.nmia.com/~daykin/seiko33.JPG


Vince

[Temp]

http://home.ripway.com/2004-10/184026/MVC-020S.JPG
NOS-TROVIA!

(sorry that I didn't have a nice, full bottle to photograph, like vince does,.... but hell, my wife retured from Canada with it 3 days ago,.... and it's only a liter)

[Bearwhositshere]

Ain't nothin sadder than a FAL missing a front end or an empty Beam bottle.
The FAL is Isreali but the Bourbon is from old Kentuck

[fastback65]

Elijah Craig is a very good choice. I prefer George Dickle No. 12

[Dean P]

No, JD ain't bourbon. If ya think it is yer fulla shttt up to the bung!


And you are full of it. I don't think I every said it was.

[owlcreekok]

Hey Dean I was funnin' Thas' all !

[fal fiend]

when i drink booze. its knob creek.. its a limited batch made by jim beam,, but the bookers & baker is better i hear, but about 35-50 dollars a 1/5, pretty pricey in my book:)

[xtremerange]

Makers Mark I serve to company. I keep Bookers around for myself:biggrin:

[BattlePack]

Even after trying all of the high end/reserve/select, etc. stuff, it is still tough to beat the Maker's Mark. Be happy on this side of the fence; the grass is not greener over there.

[sledgehammer]

Another vote for Wild Turkey. Have tried Knob Creek lately and for me it just doesn't have the smooth flavor that Turkey does.

[Snakeshot]

Evan Williams Black.

About 18 bucks for the handle bottle in this neck of the woods.
Wild Turkey 101 on occasion.

[cycle_rcr]

For the budget, Wild Turkey 80. 101's too strong to drink straight, pretty good on the rocks.

For the good stuff, Elijah Craig 18 year old single barrel Doesn't break the bank, and oh so good.

Eagle Rare is good. Aged and single barrel from Kentucky.

What Temp said about the Tenessee stuff: "It's an abomination! It's like a mule in the Kentucky Derby"

[Dean P]

What Temp said about the Tenessee stuff: "It's an abomination! It's like a mule in the Kentucky Derby"

If I was A drinker anymore, I know JD black label & Wild Turkey would be the only thing in the house. At my age about the only thing I can do is dream about it. :biggrin:

[DYNOMIKE]

Jack Black for sippin, Makers Mark for swillin, Wild Turkey? Well that's just fer whenever I can't decide what to get.
I likem all.... Gotta a whole different spin on JD whwn I went to the distillery. Very cool place with some interesting history. Jack's been a friend of mine for a looong time.
Been doin the Irish Whiskey thing lately. Found "Bushmills" to be a good Blended, but gotta try a couple good singles. Stuff is very confusing to buy? Same with Scotch, everyone makes there own, and every clan thinks there's is the best. Gotta say I like the 12 Year olds the best "so far"...

[Mebsuta]

Ain't none of it no good. :)

[No4MkI]

My three best drinking bourbons in reverse order.

1. Evan Williams Black
2. Maker' Mark
3. Knob Creek.

Remember the question was about BOURBON, not whiskey. Two completely different things. A true bourbon must be aged in virgin charred oak barrels. The temperature differences between Kentucky winters and summers cause the burbon to slowly seep in and out of the charring, giving bourbon the distinctive color, aroma and taste of the nectar of the Gods. The barrels used to age bourbon can never be used again for bourbon, some whiskeys are aged in used bourbon barrels.

Bourbon is a first cousin to Scotch Single Malts. The Scots immigrants who came over to the USA in the first immigration wave back in the 1700's settled in the Appalachian mountains, and since whiskey was much easier to transport and sell than grain, ended up being the product of choice, that is, until that traitor George Washington:uhoh: :uhoh: :smile: passed the whiskey tax and sent troops into the mountains to enforce it.

Look up the Whiskey Rebellion in thehistory books, that is if they even mention it. Don't even get me started on the Bonus Marchers back in the 1920's.

[dougjones31]

I am not a big burbon drinker. but I will vote for Southern Comfort.

Back in my younger days, I drank a good bit of Old Forester when I could not afford Southern Comfort. I think the company Brown-Forman owns..

Jack Daniels
Southern Comfort
Old Forester
Canadian Mist
Pepe Lopez tequilla
Bolla Wines
Korbel Champaign

They had annual sales in 2004 of $2,213,000,000 and a net profit of $258,000,000. Wow...that is only $.12 profit out of every $1 in sales. Somebody is hiding some profit!:shades:

[dougjones31]

Originally posted by No4MkI
My three best drinking bourbons in reverse order.

1. Evan Williams Black
2. Maker' Mark
3. Knob Creek.



If you like Black label Evan Williams try the Red label!

[Nickle]

Originally posted by owlcreekok
No, JD ain't bourbon. If ya think it is yer fulla shttt up to the bung!

JD is Tennessee Sour Mash, not Bourbon.

Personally, I prefer Jamieson's when I drink whiskey, but it's Irish (Scotch with Class). For bourbon, Maker's Mark and Evan William's are both acceptable to me.

[stymie]

W L WELLER

...yep!

mighty tasty stuff for rocket fuel!!!!!

http://www.greatbourbon.com/wlweller.html

[justashooter]

Originally posted by vmtz
http://www.nmia.com/~daykin/maker.JPG

http://www.nmia.com/~daykin/scotch.JPG

Vince

some very disturbing reading you are doing, vince. the eugenics work is a classic. i thought a janitor would be reading comic books.

[vmtz]

Originally posted by justashooter


some very disturbing reading you are doing, vince. the eugenics work is a classic. i thought a janitor would be reading comic books.

:devil:

Vince

[Bruce Allen]

http://www.877spirits.com/store/images/large/5614.jpg

Gentleman Jack is very hard to beat.
IMHO much smoother than regular Jack, and Wild Turkey for sure.

Any of you guys ever tried Single Barrel?

I think it is awful.

[Rooster]

I have a few that I like from time to time.

Everyday drinking:
Maker's Mark or Knob Creek

Sippers:
Wild Turrkey Rare Breed, Wild Turkey "Russel's Reserve", and Evan Williams Single Barrel

And for nicer occasions:
Blanton's

[hydrotx]

I rather like Single Barrel. Makes for a nice sippin' drink with a cigar.

Originally posted by Bruce Allen
http://www.877spirits.com/store/images/large/5614.jpg

Gentleman Jack is very hard to beat.
IMHO much smoother than regular Jack, and Wild Turkey for sure.

Any of you guys ever tried Single Barrel?

I think it is awful.

[OODA_Loop]

Knob Creek when I can get it, Jack when I can't.

[zack taylor]

I'm with TEMP. Moskovskaya is better than any of the 'bourbons.'

Cold brewed, cold distilled, and cold filtered. Kentuckians could use a little learnin' from those boys.

Kelly's Liquor Store here in town used to carry it, but since they were bought out by the Chinese, 'No Mo!' is what the chin tells me. Shit, I miss the Bird of Paradise.

Oh well, gonna be headin' up to Portland, OR for my annual fishing trip. Russian Vodka is readily available up there. I always bring back lots o' joy juice.

Damn, I miss the military.

Zack

[Master Blaster]

Try "Blanton's Single Barrel", You'll never put any of that other rubbish to your lips again!

http://www.blantonsbourbon.com/

Regards,
Jim:whiskey::wink:

[izaakb]

I'm still pissed at Jack Daniels for twiddlign with their recipe for their regular label stuff.

I stick to Dickel (-EL not -LE) 12 y.o. I actually find Maker's Mark to be pretty nice with a sweet flavor and that is for breakfast, but the Dickel is for dinner.

Gentleman Jack is good, but it's not their old recipe.

[fastprofessor]

I can't believe I hadn't seen this thread until now. I'm not really an expert on Bourbons, but I have tried (and routinely drink) many of them. Here's my favorites list:

First know that I think Bourbon should be drank straight (either neat or on ice). I love the smoky rich flavor that Bourbon has and I don't want any coke or anything else detracting from that flavor. Although I do realize many people just want a bourbon for mixed drinks so I've inlcuded some recommendations for that as well.

1st: Booker's
Absolutely the best tasting smoothest bourbon I have ever had. Real rich flavor. But its so expensive that I usually just drink one glass of it before switching to something else. Its also uncut (~125 proof alcohol) so I can't drink much of it and remain coherent. :D
http://www.whisky.fr/contenu/img/408.gif

2nd: Tie between Baker's and Knob Creek
These are very tasty bourbons. Not quite as mature tasting or as smooth as Bookers but damn close. Also since Knob Creek is a little cheaper I usually have it around as one of my house bourbons.
http://www.thehound.com/media/images/products/medium/JW/OFJWBOURBAK_7945.jpg
http://www.whisky.fr/contenu/img/415.gif

3rd: Labrot and Graham Woodford Reserve
About the same price as Knob Creek but just slightly different in flavor. This is another one of my house bourbons that is always handy.
http://www.elalmanaque.com/turismo/torres/woodford.jpg

4th: Tie between Maker's Mark and Eagle Rare
Both of these bourbons are very palatable and at only $20-$25 a bottle you can't go wrong.
http://www.whisky.fr/contenu/img/20416.jpg
http://www.whisky.fr/img2/produit/v493.jpg

5th: Tie between Jim Beam, Wild Turkey, and Evan Williams Single Barrel (note that this is the Evan Williams Single Barrel NOT regular Evan Williams which is awful).
I have had a lot of Jim Beam in my day. I still think it is a decent bourbon for the price but it certainly doesn't have the flavor of any of the bourbons above. Wild Turkey and Evan Williams Single Barrel are also in a similar catagory. Decent taste for the price. If you want a good tasting bourbon but don't want to spend the money for a great tasting bourbon then you can't go wrong with one of these. Also if you want a bourbon only for mixed drinks then I would choose one from this group.
http://www.yopi.de/images/prod_pics/485/e/485852.jpg
http://www.thedrinkshop.com/images/products/main/1076/1076.jpg
http://www.whisky.fr/img2/produit/v492.jpg

[MACV]

Originally posted by fastprofessor
I can't believe I hadn't seen this thread until now. I'm not really an expert on Bourbons, but I have tried (and routinely drink) many of them. Here's my favorites list:

First know that I think Bourbon should be drank straight (either neat or on ice). I love the smoky rich flavor that Bourbon has and I don't want any coke or anything else detracting from that flavor. Although I do realize many people just want a bourbon for mixed drinks so I've inlcuded some recommendations for that as well.

1st: Booker's
Absolutely the best tasting smoothest bourbon I have ever had. Real rich flavor. But its so expensive that I usually just drink one glass of it before switching to something else. Its also uncut (~125 proof alcohol) so I can't drink much of it and remain coherent. :D
http://www.whisky.fr/contenu/img/408.gif

2nd: Tie between Baker's and Knob Creek
These are very tasty bourbons. Not quite as mature tasting or as smooth as Bookers but damn close. Also since Knob Creek is a little cheaper I usually have it around as one of my house bourbons.
http://www.thehound.com/media/images/products/medium/JW/OFJWBOURBAK_7945.jpg
http://www.whisky.fr/contenu/img/415.gif

3rd: Labrot and Graham Woodford Reserve
About the same price as Knob Creek but just slightly different in flavor. This is another one of my house bourbons that is always handy.
http://www.elalmanaque.com/turismo/torres/woodford.jpg

4th: Tie between Maker's Mark and Eagle Rare
Both of these bourbons are very palatable and at only $20-$25 a bottle you can't go wrong.
http://www.whisky.fr/contenu/img/20416.jpg
http://www.whisky.fr/img2/produit/v493.jpg

5th: Tie between Jim Beam, Wild Turkey, and Evan Williams Single Barrel (note that this is the Evan Williams Single Barrel NOT regular Evan Williams which is awful).
I have had a lot of Jim Beam in my day. I still think it is a decent bourbon for the price but it certainly doesn't have the flavor of any of the bourbons above. Wild Turkey and Evan Williams Single Barrel are also in a similar catagory. Decent taste for the price. If you want a good tasting bourbon but don't want to spend the money for a great tasting bourbon then you can't go wrong with one of these. Also if you want a bourbon only for mixed drinks then I would choose one from this group.
http://www.yopi.de/images/prod_pics/485/e/485852.jpg
http://www.thedrinkshop.com/images/products/main/1076/1076.jpg
http://www.whisky.fr/img2/produit/v492.jpg


Most of the above listed are over priced and have very little character.

The best bourbon for the money is Jim Beam Black Label.
The best bourbon period is Old Rip Van Winkle 10, 12, 15, or 20 year old, its all good. This bourbon is only released to distributers twice a year so its hard to find at times.
Knob Creek is drinkable, Makers Mark aint bad but Wild Turkey is just plain nasty. And besides Wild Turkey is owned by the French which is reason enough to shun it.
Jack Daniels is for burnt out old bikers and toothless fat chicks....how do you think burnt out bikers and toothless fat chicks get laid? Massive amounts of Jack.

[fastprofessor]

Originally posted by MACV



Most of the above listed are over priced and have very little character.

I disagree, but different strokes for different folks. These are my favorites ranked by my palate. Your mileage may vary.

I'd love to try some Old Rip Van Winkle, but I have little hope of finding it since I moved from Kentucky to Iowa. How bout sending out a care package my way MACV? :wink:

[English Mike]

Hey Vince:uhoh:

Where did you find Ardbeg at - I haven't seen it since I left London in '89!

Mind you, my current "treat" is this:p

[Derby FALs]

Originally posted by John Randolph
If there are any hardcore bourbon fans out there I was looking for something new and maybe not that outrageously priced.

I typically drink Maker's or Woodford Reserve, have enjoyed the other small batch (Bookers, Bakers and Basil Hayden) but am looking more for something that doesn't ruin the bank account.

I tend to enjoy the mellower, sweeter varieties. Is Maker's Mark really the best compromise out there?

Try some Yellowstone. Woodford Reserve is picked from the casks of Yellowstone. One of my favorites was Henry McKenna in the crock jug.

[Witchhunter]

The thought of some of you with a buzz, kinda freaks me out.:eek: :eek:

[English Mike]

Originally posted by Witchhunter
The thought of some of you with a buzz, kinda freaks me out.:eek: :eek:

I never post without one:biggrin:

[jwaters]

You will usually fin Wild Turkey Russell's reseve here, it's more like the Wild Turkey before they cut down the aging on the regular stuff. Our local liquor store blew some out a few years ago $2 a bottle less than regular Turkey. I stocked up, but recently ran out.

Basil Hayden is pretty good, I recently tried a bottle of it. Too spendy for the money I think. Taste is better than Turkey, but not by the difference in price for me.

Maker's Mark is ok, but it doesn't suit me.

The cheapest I will go is Beam.

Knob Creek is pretty good too, but not worth more money than Wild Turkey in my opinon.

[Witchhunter]

The cheapest I will go is Beam.


Not me , percocet and Boonsfarm all the way.:biggrin:

Edited to spell the narcotic in question correctly.:wink:

[MACV]

Originally posted by fastprofessor


I disagree, but different strokes for different folks. These are my favorites ranked by my palate. Your mileage may vary.

I'd love to try some Old Rip Van Winkle, but I have little hope of finding it since I moved from Kentucky to Iowa. How bout sending out a care package my way MACV? :wink:

I know what your saying, everyones taste is different. I look at price vs taste. A bottle of bourbon damned well better be good for $50+ a bottle like some have listed. Also just because a bourbon is smooth doesnt mean it tastes good. A lot of people judge bourbon by its smoothness or expensive price and over look the flavor. Jim Beam Black costs me around $14 a bottle and the 10 year old Old Rip Van Winkle is $22. By the way you can order Old Rip off the net.

[John Randolph]

By the way you can order Old Rip off the net.

Not here in PA you can't.

Thanks for all the suggestions...this should keep me busy for a while.

If any of you stumble on something called "Jefferson's Reserve", I highly recommend it for something very special. I've yet to find it again, but then PA State Stores suck. Though I've seen Rip Van periodically.



http://www.jeffersonsreserve.com/jrbot.jpg

[John Randolph]

Not me , Percoet and Boonsfarm all the way.

Assuming you meant percocet...that's some damn funny S#!^. :rofl:

I guarantee you though, bourbon is a lot nicer going down. :whiskey:

[fastprofessor]

Originally posted by MACV

Also just because a bourbon is smooth doesnt mean it tastes good. A lot of people judge bourbon by its smoothness or expensive price and over look the flavor.

I couldn't agree more. Most properly aged whiskeys will be smooth, but its mainly the deep rich flavor and smoky aroma distinctive to bourbon that I truly enjoy.

Cheers! :whiskey:

[Bruce Allen]

Originally posted by izaakb
I'm still pissed at Jack Daniels for twiddlign with their recipe for their regular label stuff.


Gentleman Jack is good, but it's not their old recipe.
Jack Daniel still makes the orginal Black Label whiskey!

BTW when I referred to Single Barrel, I was talking about the Jack Daniel's Single Barrel.

I have never tried Evan Williams Single Barrel.

[Derby FALs]

Originally posted by Bruce Allen

Jack Daniel still makes the orginal Black Label whiskey!

They still make it but have discovered that water is cheap. It used to be 86 proof and now it is 80 proof.

[tigerfans2]

Old Grandad


just like me

[Bruce Allen]

Originally posted by Derby FALs


They still make it but have discovered that water is cheap. It used to be 86 proof and now it is 80 proof.
That just means one more drink that usual, right?

I did not know the proof had changed!!

It still does the job.

[jwaters]

Wild Turkey used to be all 101 proof, but they started selling an 80 proof at some point.

If you used to do the math, you got more EtOH for the $ with 101.

Today, I don't know what the deal is, I have a little more bling, so I can just buy 101.

JW

[biggun]

Its hard to believe I'm only the second person to vote for Jim Bean Black Label.

[1stSTG]

Makers Mark in the freezer at all times and Blantons when I can find it.

Mike

[Chipmunk]

Hell....my favorite's
Rebel Yell:rofl:
Way better than JD!!
Chipmunk

[Powderfinger]

Originally posted by Mebsuta
Ain't none of it no good. :)

That's so wrong in many ways.:sad:

[Powderfinger]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DYNOMIKE69
[Been doin the Irish Whiskey thing lately. Found "Bushmills" to be a good Blended, but gotta try a couple good singles. Stuff is very confusing to buy?

I just finished a bottle of Bushmill's Single Malt 10. Not so smoky as Scotch. I'll buy it again. When I'm feeling flush, I want to try the 16 yo some time.:)

[Nickle]

I'm a Jamison's lad myself.

[MACV]

Originally posted by Chipmunk
Hell....my favorite's
Rebel Yell:rofl:
Way better than JD!!
Chipmunk

I had forgotten about Rebel Yell, or as we say around camp the morning after "Rebel Yelp".
It really is a tasty bourbon.

[Derby FALs]

You have not had the finest until Henry McKenna. (http://www.bardstownbourbonsociety.com/brands_mckennasingle.html)

[fastprofessor]

OK. I got my hands on some Jim Beam Black Label and I have to agree with MACV that it is very good. I would place it as equal or better than knob creek. And for the price ($20 in Iowa) there is nothing else that comes close.